Pace Of Legalization And New Innovation

Respectfully, I am interested to hear the opinions of the community about the pace of federal law reform. What could be done to speed up change? We created a fundraising tool, and we'll need to hear from you in regards to spending other people's money. We are using story to connect folks in our community and empower them, as a citizen's lobby, to make a push for change now. May I present the tool to the community here for discussion?
 
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I checked out the button. Nope. Hilarious topic though. Heard about the FCC feedback fiasco for Net-neutrality?

There are so, so many reasons why this will probably be the last post in this thread.
Even though I really enjoy spending other people's money. I'm pretty sure this is going to be an ongoing process of waiting for the old bastards in control to retire or die. It has been that way for many things as I have observed. I only wished I was younger as the wait is wearing on me.
 
The accumulation of funds which occurs when our community focuses their energy, for a simple 20 seconds per day, will be a powerful force reminding members of Congress that their jobs are on the line today in regards to their handling of cannabis law reform. We all believe legalization will happen, the debate is about when. I'd like to do it for you while you are still feeling youg @Ignignokt Cheers!
 
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"will be a powerful force reminding members of Congress that their jobs are on the line today in regards to their handling of cannabis law reform"

How so?
 
Imagine, if you will, what is possible if folks who want change, but have not been able to donate over $300 per year to help end federal prohibition, suddenly have a tool which lets us spend that much together. Imagine town hall meetings nationwide offering up and coming politicians the chance to express their reform ideas to the public, thus putting the jobs of members of Congress, in their eyes, on the line. Imagine all the media we can generate with those kinds of funds. And all folks need to do is Push The Button. :)
 
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the funds are already in the 13 trillion dollar bond market and the quantitatived stock market casino is already steaming toward the green rush.

the tax burden provided by government worker obligations into perpetuality will ensure that many states open up.

the crux will be heavy regulations across growing, transport from greenhouse to dispensary, roadside tickets / dui's, testing for chem's ( this will help turn public against underground that sprays chems , cancer upon the caregiving goodness ).....

not sure joe-six will see the fruits of much but high price point, black market price destruction..... more money spent on tickets, more taxes .....
 
The price of cannabis, especially at the wholesale level, dropped precipitously after legalization in Colorado. I expect the same to happen nationally.
 
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The price of cannabis, especially at the wholesale level, dropped precipitously after legalization in Colorado. I expect the same to happen nationally.
Im not for sure why you would think we wanted the price of cannabis to come down?We don't ever intend on buying it anyway... We teach ppl to be self sufficient..not rely on government hacks, lawyers, and other special interest groups. From what I heard, they were all for recreational, and all them sells they were gonna get, then they seen home grows doing its thing, and now , ya we still want recreational, but its unsafe for home grows... All bs! Nobody cares for the little guys, and why should they, we all listen to the same radio station, WIIFM WHATS IN IT FOR ME

In my opinion, if you cant homegrow, its still illegal! And honestly, if your talking on the federal level, you better put that shit on hold cause Sessions aint legalizing shit!
 
Homegrow sounds more than reasonable. Setting price aside, the people will have to get it from somewhere. Not everybody will grow. I would like safe access to a host of products. Regarding timing, we are thinking Now until Now becomes reality. Homegrow or no, nobody goes to jail for cannabis. Non-commercial legalization with homegrow is a fantastic start. Storefronts in due time, as the local communities so desire. Let's get the federal government out of the way.
 
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Here's my issue with Legalization at the Federal level. Specifically, a rescheduling; which is prolly the best that can be hoped for.
With a rescheduling comes even more government regulation. For instance, if cannibas is rescheduled then a whole new era of criminalization of the plant will happen. Although the DEA will no longer have control...Big Pharma will; directly through the FDA and ATF.
Meaning states will no longer have control of their medical programs or recreational use.
It will all be controlled by the federal government and all the progress that has been made towards legalization especially in the last decade will be lost.
Call me paranoid or whatever but that's what I see happening. Colorado was considered the testing ground and we are already losing freedoms that we had just a few years ago.
Don't get me wrong. Regulation is good for the health of the users and unfortunately it's not possible to let growers control the quality itself regarding fungus and pesticides.
So, my point, is marijuana legalization and regulation need to remain issues of individual states with NO federal government involvement.
 

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Respectfully, I am interested to hear the opinions of the community about the pace of federal law reform. What could be done to speed up change? We created a fundraising tool, and we'll need to hear from you in regards to spending other people's money. We are using story to connect folks in our community and empower them, as a citizen's lobby, to make a push for change now. May I present the tool to the community here for discussion?
What speeds up drug reform is not attaching our middle class to the drug war... if We dont have a drug war... we lose a ton of middle class jobs. Everyone from cops to cps piss testers would be out of work. Its easier to keep a drug war going rather than retrain and relocate hundreds of thousands of ppl... and our new pres doesnt need a 40% unemployment rate hahaha
 

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Here's my issue with Legalization at the Federal level. Specifically, a rescheduling; which is prolly the best that can be hoped for.
With a rescheduling comes even more government regulation. For instance, if cannibas is rescheduled then a whole new era of criminalization of the plant will happen. Although the DEA will no longer have control...Big Pharma will; directly through the FDA and ATF.
Meaning states will no longer have control of their medical programs or recreational use.
It will all be controlled by the federal government and all the progress that has been made towards legalization especially in the last decade will be lost.
Call me paranoid or whatever but that's what I see happening. Colorado was considered the testing ground and we are already losing freedoms that we had just a few years ago.
Don't get me wrong. Regulation is good for the health of the users and unfortunately it's not possible to let growers control the quality itself regarding fungus and pesticides.
So, my point, is marijuana legalization and regulation need to remain issues of individual states with NO federal government involvement.
Im glad im not the only one that sees a shit show anywhere we turn. If its not one agency doing the screwing... its the next gov agency. ... i think the gov might be the problem in our world.. seems to be a pattern hahaha
 
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Im having a hardtime following this(mayb edibles for breakfast wasnt such a good idea)basicaly this guy is saying bring our cash together and lobby the govt??who holds the cash?lmfao.like said above theres multiple people reaching in our pockets n u.s.,laws designed to create revenue not to teach people shit.numbers change every yr but pharma had some 144 lobbiests couple yrs ago.cant rember total on what they "donated"(lmfao),but it was like enough to pay every member of house $240,000 ea...
 
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I'm sure ty Palmer is tied into the mj industry somehow,their goal is to break the barrier and be able to ship across state lines legally to enrich themselves,thats when the real money steps in.The problem with the Canna industry is they are the same as politicians,they will say anything to get your vote but after they have it they will turn on home grows as that is their biggest competition,we've seen it over and over again.Money is the ultimate corrupter and Canna industry is NOT your friend if you grow your own.
 
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Federal reform is not enough; We need a complete makeover and only radical change can fix the problems. The professionals who interact with government (lawyers/lobbyist) make sure every issue is viewed through blinders of particular interest.

Our Government is a deviant subculture full of soapbox rants and finger-pointing. "Do as I say, not as I do" sound familiar to any one? Government is almost completely isolated from the Public it supposedly serves. The one link for a functioning Democracy is identifiable officials who have responsibility to accomplish Public goals " is nowhere to be found". So who is in charge? The most powerful force in this subculture is inertia: Things happen a certain way because that is the way it happened yesterday.

To be continued.....
 
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Congress has created rules that require herculean efforts to make easy choices and render meaningful change impossible. The fact of the matter is bright new people get elected and find themselves powerless and suffocating.

Special interest are not principals but agents, "motivated not to solve problems, but work them". Think about it; solving a problem would cost them their jobs. The more polarization, the better off both sides are. Even if some pure-minded individual wanted to solve a problem, the dynamics of special interest groups would keep driving positions to lowest common denominator.

Right and wrong no longer matter in a deviant subculture. Want to be a reformer, well then ask yourself what is politically feasible? That answer should be clear "Nothing".

To be continued......
 
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I am the former Dir. of Ops. for StickyGuide.com, but have no other interests in the cannabis industry beyond my own site, discussed here. :) I just love cannabis and want it available for folks who do not grow. Growers, keep growing. :)
 

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