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PS: Sorry, my phone was to dead to get a flash so some pics are dark, if i need a pic with flash ill charge phone and reupload.Could this all just be heat damage?
Am i panicing? Do i wait, let it dry out, and see if it recovers?
Do i transplant into dryer soil?
Is there nothing wrong and im just a super newb???
Well first of all, don’t give up/
Sh*t happens to the best of us.
As for the question on starting in coco, and going into FFOF, yes, it works and I do it.
Works for clones and seeds.
Fox farms soil is hot, but I’ve managed to grow well despite this.
Seedlings are finicky, so any environmental changes effects/affects them.
As far as recovery, I’d say it’s a weed, if she doesn’t make it now, not worth the time later. Only the strong survive and expect losses.
above all patience is key brother.
You can transplant into a coco fox farm mix to avoid the “muddiness”. And add heat from outside the grow space via an Intake fan pushing air down from top and pulling air out he bottom. Directed heat will kill any plant let alone a seedling
im trying to figure out what you mean by mudding up,if you are having mud ,you sure enough are watering way to much,ocean has a mess of wood chips and such in it,there formula has the perfect amount of per;ite ratio for the wood chips ,both combined gives you the air movement when exchanged,most add more perlite and in my opinion defeats the purpose of the built soil and its amend they put in it,just my opinion i dont add to it,its balanced that way for a reason ,called CEC the cation exchange capicity is most important for all plant again my own opinion ,others will difer im sure,perlite is one thing ,but adding coco to ocean i have yet to understand why folks do it at all just saying,if it is for volume of soil id go peat moss instead,just me.@Jack og
25% CannaCOCO
25% Perlite
50% Fox farm
for seed pods?
Like if i did 1cup cannacoco, 1 cup perlite, 2 cups fox farm and filled my seed pods with that, would that maybe help the mudding up of the roots?
@oldskol4evr
@Aqua Man
@Beachwalker
You guys were EXTREMELY, knowledgeable on my last post, maybe i could return for some more help?
Well first of all, don’t give up/
Sh*t happens to the best of us.
As for the question on starting in coco, and going into FFOF, yes, it works and I do it.
Works for clones and seeds.
Fox farms soil is hot, but I’ve managed to grow well despite this.
Seedlings are finicky, so any environmental changes effects/affects them.
As far as recovery, I’d say it’s a weed, if she doesn’t make it now, not worth the time later. Only the strong survive and expect losses.
above all patience is key brother.
You can transplant into a coco fox farm mix to avoid the “muddiness”. And add heat from outside the grow space via an Intake fan pushing air down from top and pulling air out he bottom. Directed heat will kill any plant let alone a seedling
im trying to figure out what you mean by mudding up,if you are having mud ,you sure enough are watering way to much,ocean has a mess of wood chips and such in it,there formula has the perfect amount of per;ite ratio for the wood chips ,both combined gives you the air movement when exchanged,most add more perlite and in my opinion defeats the purpose of the built soil and its amend they put in it,just my opinion i dont add to it,its balanced that way for a reason ,called CEC the cation exchange capicity is most important for all plant again my own opinion ,others will difer im sure,perlite is one thing ,but adding coco to ocean i have yet to understand why folks do it at all just saying,if it is for volume of soil id go peat moss instead,just me.
so from your plan here what you got,25 coco,25 perlite then ocean has the wood chips so im saying you have right about 65% air alone there,not much room for soil,for sure want be mudding up,i watch these threads a lot and have noticed when folks do the mix in of coco the less experienced growers seem to have issues,they wouldnt if the experience level was a bit more,just saying the coco is salty ,you wash it ok fine ,but when you put it in soil the salt is still gonna build up in it if you dig,coco is best moist and there is the runoff thing to wash out those salts,soil is difrent from the get go you dont feed it like you would coco perlite promix,soil holds minerals and you dont do as much of the runoff thing from buffering if you dig,they are best pretty much flushed every time you feed ,soil when the mix just starts to come out the pot you stop ,you cant flush soil it then turns to mud,this is what i think your doing,your feeding like your in the soiless with 20 or 30%runoff,that my friend washes all the minerals out of you soil ,no feed and compaction comes from that point,buy the time you get the soil turned around your almost ready to flip,and we all want healthy plants before flip and transition if you dig
Yep perfect mix, I do about the same@Jack og
25% CannaCOCO
25% Perlite
50% Fox farm
for seed pods?
Like if i did 1cup cannacoco, 1 cup perlite, 2 cups fox farm and filled my seed pods with that, would that maybe help the mudding up of the roots?
@oldskol4evr
@Aqua Man
@Beachwalker
You guys were EXTREMELY, knowledgeable on my last post, maybe i could return for some more help?
Yep perfect mix, I do about the same
if you are regularly letting your rootball get this dry as shown in your pics you are underwatering. The trick s to keep the soil moist all the way thru the rootball but never soggy sopping wet either. Heres a trick I used in the beginning and you will hear it alot in the forums. Water the pot to where you are seeing 10-20 % run off and then heft the pot up to get a feel of its weight once well watered. Then you can use this as 1 way to know when they may be thirsty by lifting the pots to see how light they feel. AS they drink and the water evaporates the pots will become lighter. Fabric pots will def dry out the soil quicker than plastic pots as they allow more aeration to the rootzone and thus the soil drys out much quicker. In a fab bag the size you are using a 2/3 cup of water isnt near enough moisture.So i said screw it, this keeps happening, whats another plant lost aslong as i can learn from this? i did a transplant, sure its early, i know, but i put er in a bigger pot, pretty much just to show you guys the roots, they just dont look healthy to me??? but, as said before, i am new.
If you notice in the pictures, you can tell the soil isdry, i do let it dry out, i dont just constantly water, why is it balling up like this?
I was thinking of starting the seedling out in CoCo then transplanting to pure FFOF to avoid this. Wouldnt work?
EDIT: TESTED PPM, 204PPM Water.
if you are regularly letting your rootball get this dry as shown in your pics you are underwatering. The trick s to keep the soil moist all the way thru the rootball but never soggy sopping wet either. Heres a trick I used in the beginning and you will hear it alot in the forums. Water the pot to where you are seeing 10-20 % run off and then heft the pot up to get a feel of its weight once well watered. Then you can use this as 1 way to know when they may be thirsty by lifting the pots to see how light they feel. AS they drink and the water evaporates the pots will become lighter. Fabric pots will def dry out the soil quicker than plastic pots as they allow more aeration to the rootzone and thus the soil drys out much quicker. In a fab bag the size you are using a 2/3 cup of water isnt near enough moisture.
Ahh, now im not giving them enough, THESE THINGS ARE SO PICKY OMFG LOL. But okay, thank you, VERY much for the seedback, i just transplanted it, ill let it recover and ill try to keep the soil moist but not let it get desert dry. I guess i paniced so much about overwatering now im just not giving them enough.
@jumpincactus ,i transplanted into new soil. I did not water as the new soil is pretty moist. figured it would be enough for it, i dont want to overwater.i took the plant out, smacked all the dried dirt off the roots, but not all of it. i couldnt get all of it. but i did make some breathing room. Do you think i have a shot? or shall i just toss it and begin over again? I just dont want to be let down, lets say in mid flower because of this issue, when i could just save the stress now. LOL.
I dunno. My initial thought when I saw your plants was over-watered but the root ball looks dry in the pic. Anyways, have you considered not growing in coco and instead use soil? As a beginner, I think it's way more beginner friendly and allows for more user error. I've been growing for almost 5 years and am just now trying out other mediums besides soil now that I finally have a slightly better understanding of plants needs....
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