of the Conserve?where can i find a more affordable dosage ?
Who wants to go in on some Conserve SC?
How does Dawn detergent clog stomata? It's used by wildlife rescuers because it's so good at stripping away oil, so clogging is kinda confusing. Hell, my jeweler recommended it for cleaning my diamonds, said it will leave them with no residues whatsoever, so that statement makes me curious.I dont recommend Dawn, it has killed some of my plants in the past. It clogs the Stomata. Its not a dessicant, its a wetting agent. Yucca works and Coco Wet both work without any damage to plants. They are cheap, I wouldnt use anything else. I like the cocowet better because Yucca gets really foamy.
Stop screwing around with Sulfur and oils, get the Conserve and be a believer.
How does Dawn detergent clog stomata? It's used by wildlife rescuers because it's so good at stripping away oil, so clogging is kinda confusing. Hell, my jeweler recommended it for cleaning my diamonds, said it will leave them with no residues whatsoever, so that statement makes me curious.
Bummer ACD :( I was afraid to use the sulphur spray i bought.Thanks nightmare for the Conserve recommendation. I have a couple of bottle of Captain Jack's Dead Bug Brew Concentrate which has the same active ingredient Spinosad. Is there anything in particular different about the Conserve? I thought it was reported that Spinosad didn't work against Russets?
I think the sulfur mix might be good as a deterrent but it definitely isn't cutting it at the level I'm dealing with, mainly because the Russets just move on to the nice fresh new growth that formed after the last sulfur spraying.
The issue of the spray causing damage is kinda complex. What I've noticed is that the places on leaves that would have eventually showed damage from the Russets after a few days instead shows up immediately after the sulfur spraying, like on the edges of the leaflets where they all meet and the edges of the newest leaf formations. I know this is not just simply from the sulfur spray because I can have two plants of the same genetics in the same pot and one will show a bunch of damage and the other won't have any damage. It's because one was more infested with the Russets. When the leaf edges get eaten by the Russets and then get hit by the sulfur mix all the chewed locations get fried. Everywhere else is perfectly healthy.
I recently tried yucca and I wasn't pleased with it. I used the recommended amount of yucca with an Avid solution. The solution was totally beading up on the leaves and not showing complete coverage at all. I made sure to get the yucca mixed up well so I don't know what the deal was. It's a bummer because a small expensive bag of it was supposed to go a long way. I have found that the standard generic non-ionic surfactant works much better for me. I'll post the exact ingredients of that surfactant later cuz I need to pick up another bottle of it.
I'm just getting into flowering now because I was able to delay things. Is there any hope of cooler weather in the future shutting these bastards down????
Thanks nightmare for the Conserve recommendation. I have a couple of bottle of Captain Jack's Dead Bug Brew Concentrate which has the same active ingredient Spinosad. Is there anything in particular different about the Conserve? I thought it was reported that Spinosad didn't work against Russets?
I think the sulfur mix might be good as a deterrent but it definitely isn't cutting it at the level I'm dealing with, mainly because the Russets just move on to the nice fresh new growth that formed after the last sulfur spraying.
The issue of the spray causing damage is kinda complex. What I've noticed is that the places on leaves that would have eventually showed damage from the Russets after a few days instead shows up immediately after the sulfur spraying, like on the edges of the leaflets where they all meet and the edges of the newest leaf formations. I know this is not just simply from the sulfur spray because I can have two plants of the same genetics in the same pot and one will show a bunch of damage and the other won't have any damage. It's because one was more infested with the Russets. When the leaf edges get eaten by the Russets and then get hit by the sulfur mix all the chewed locations get fried. Everywhere else is perfectly healthy.
I recently tried yucca and I wasn't pleased with it. I used the recommended amount of yucca with an Avid solution. The solution was totally beading up on the leaves and not showing complete coverage at all. I made sure to get the yucca mixed up well so I don't know what the deal was. It's a bummer because a small expensive bag of it was supposed to go a long way. I have found that the standard generic non-ionic surfactant works much better for me. I'll post the exact ingredients of that surfactant later cuz I need to pick up another bottle of it.
I'm just getting into flowering now because I was able to delay things. Is there any hope of cooler weather in the future shutting these bastards down????
Bummer ACD :( I was afraid to use the sulphur spray i bought.
Conserve is like 11% spinosad. Dead bug and Monterey are just 0.5%
I have a bottle of Monterey still and Im wondering if I could just mix it stronger
My Conserve wont be here till tuesday :(
I think the russets might prefer cooler wetter weather.:depressed:.not sure though
I hope you get a handle on em soon
I went to two grow-shops today to look for any new info was on fighting the Russets. Here's is the latest product. Both stores are selling it like crazy.
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I'm not knocking Conserve. Spinosad has been a great weapon for me in the past. I just didn't realize it was effective on Russets. I'm open to whatever works.
i was wondering what was in it..I went to two grow-shops today to look for any new info was on fighting the Russets. Here's is the latest product. Both stores are selling it like crazy.
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I was curious about what happened, thanks. I don't normally use Dawn, I usually use castile soaps but figured I should pay attention because it may not be so much a matter of IF I get HRMs, it may very well simply be a matter of WHEN. So all input on this from folks who've had their rubber meet the road is important.All I know is that a few years ago I used a little too much and it killed everything in my whole garden. The plants shriveled up and died. This was an indoor room and a flowering room.
I believe I used a tablespoon per gallon. Ive use Yucca and Cocowet with no problems ever.
People have problems because they CHEAP out. Cocowet is $7 bucks, thats cheap and it works. I wouldnt steer anyone in the wrong direction. I know Dawn is a little cheaper but stick to Yucca or Cocowet.
It's GOT to be the concentrations, then. EG, I just read that where DiPel fails, XenTari works well.Im just pointing people in the right direction so they save time and money.
Ive used Spinosad before and it didnt work. Ive tried almost all of them. The Conserve works too good!
I see now that is a concentrate..So tyhat might not be a bad price.I went to two grow-shops today to look for any new info was on fighting the Russets. Here's is the latest product. Both stores are selling it like crazy.
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