Sparky75
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Would suggest 3k if going start to finish
Well thought out and informative.Amazing about the results with your daughter @Sparky75
Few things I think are important to your plan.
Any quality grow light can grow premium marijuana. No need to spend more on lamps for quality. And im surprised no one has mentioned uva or uvb which can increase quality measurably. And are not included in the led you are choosing.
For medical only I would consider 315 cmh for its truer sunlight spectrum and decent uva and uvb. Made a small difference in my grow compared to hps only. But to heal my wifes cysts only hps was used. Hortilux super hps 600’s.
And if you need a good quality 1:1 strain the only way to be sure you grew the right medicine is to aquire and keep a legit clone that has been tested. Seeds will give results all over the place and most plants wont have enough cbd.
And the lab tests are not accurate and have no standards. I had the same plant tested at iron labs here through a dispensary i worked with and got 3 different results on 3 buds taken from the same big bud. They were only within 5% of each other but were the same flower.
Finally. The growing envirenment to be stable and hospitable and controlled is the most important factor in my opinion.
Like you said earlier results can vary a lot. I can grow the same clone as another grower and get very different results.
In other words practice growing the plant. Over and over until you have the results consistantly you need. It is not as easy as some make it look. So many variables can mess up a grow.
I practically put myself through college studying how to grow. Read for years before buying a grow tent and trying it.
No amount of studying prepared me for the trials and tribulations of growing. Very stressful. And results will vary even after years of doing it.
Good luck. You are a pioneer of showing our plant can actually cure cancer. I am so happy for you and your family. Amazing news every time i hear it.
Our product has almost completely eliminated Mrs. MMG’s internal cysts that have plagued her her whole life.
In 6 months of eating and smoking our flowers and extracted coconut oil for edibles her specialist thought she had the wrong test results. The specialist had planned to operate on her.
Best luck to you sir! You came to a very caring and experienced forum. Best place i have seen online for a new grower to help succeed.
Hope this terribly long post is helpful. :-)
Amazing about the results with your daughter @Sparky75
Few things I think are important to your plan.
Any quality grow light can grow premium marijuana. No need to spend more on lamps for quality. And im surprised no one has mentioned uva or uvb which can increase quality measurably. And are not included in the led you are choosing.
For medical only I would consider 315 cmh for its truer sunlight spectrum and decent uva and uvb. Made a small difference in my grow compared to hps only. But to heal my wifes cysts only hps was used. Hortilux super hps 600’s.
And if you need a good quality 1:1 strain the only way to be sure you grew the right medicine is to aquire and keep a legit clone that has been tested. Seeds will give results all over the place and most plants wont have enough cbd.
And the lab tests are not accurate and have no standards. I had the same plant tested at iron labs here through a dispensary i worked with and got 3 different results on 3 buds taken from the same big bud. They were only within 5% of each other but were the same flower.
Finally. The growing envirenment to be stable and hospitable and controlled is the most important factor in my opinion.
Like you said earlier results can vary a lot. I can grow the same clone as another grower and get very different results.
In other words practice growing the plant. Over and over until you have the results consistantly you need. It is not as easy as some make it look. So many variables can mess up a grow.
I practically put myself through college studying how to grow. Read for years before buying a grow tent and trying it.
No amount of studying prepared me for the trials and tribulations of growing. Very stressful. And results will vary even after years of doing it.
Good luck. You are a pioneer of showing our plant can actually cure cancer. I am so happy for you and your family. Amazing news every time i hear it.
Our product has almost completely eliminated Mrs. MMG’s internal cysts that have plagued her her whole life.
In 6 months of eating and smoking our flowers and extracted coconut oil for edibles her specialist thought she had the wrong test results. The specialist had planned to operate on her.
Best luck to you sir! You came to a very caring and experienced forum. Best place i have seen online for a new grower to help succeed.
Hope this terribly long post is helpful. :-)
I was looking at adding a UVB light from California light works that run a few hours a day at the back end of the grow along with thte grow light of choice to increase desired results.
I have been looking at the octane grow tent to help with environmental control or the gorilla grow tents, I understand those are good tents that help the grow environment stability.
Experience is the only true teacher. We can educate ourselves and understand all these variables, but actual experiences teach us the true lessons.
Thanks for the help!
Has anyone used the powerveg lights (t5) for uv and red to an existing light during the flower stage. They look like an excellent light to add some red and some UVA UVB light to the standard LED lights. I kind of got sidetracked looking at UV lights and red lights to help determine if I can purchase a standard led or if I need the red light option, which is a higher price. The standard versions without the UV and IR are cheaper and a person can add the red and UV t5 lights like the powerveg. I am curious how well they work and if anyone has any experience with them. A person would need a slim reflector fixture to house them other than the ones they have so you could place them beside your primary grow light.
I was going to mount the sun system 2 bulb 4’ and 2’ t-5 amps to the sides and back wall of my flower room with the full spectrum plus uv lamps. Hanging about half way up the canopy for height.
But i went with cmh hung overlaping my 2 hps 600’s and liked the results. But I hink yield and quality would go up further with the flourescents with more uvb in them.
Not that this helps you any but i am interested as well. Not much heat from those tubes compared to more hid.
Only one very SMALL correction..Kingbrite is a good company.
The LMB301H are the updated and slightly more efficient version of the 301C's. I would personally prefer the 3500K spectrum, I feel there is a bit more balance with the red and blue spectrums but still warm enough to get great results from bloom. it is the spectrum Gavita and Fluence aim for in their units then boost the 660nm range. I built my custom unit with 4000K boards and I am very happy with the results.
Timber makes units using COB LEDS, those may also be an effective option for you.
UV can be added into the tent with reptile UV bulbs as well and those are typically cheaper.
I am with @MIMedGrower that CMH lights would be a good option, particularly if you go with a 4x8 tent. Personally I prefer having separate veg and bloom areas, it allows me to have my grows on a more continual basis, but more importantly it becomes much easier to keep mother plants with separate areas; so maybe 2 4x4 tents would be best for you. For tents I would go with Gorilla or Secret Jardin, I actually own 2 from Secret Jardin.
I can't remember where but I read the h chips are the same as the b chips and the h chips are just marketed toward horticulture? No idea is this is true I haven't looked into personally.Only one very SMALL correction..
The 301H diodes are the updated 301B chips. (The B chips came after the 561 Cs )
FWIW, I still buy the B versions.
Love the Kingbright lights and also my older HLGs.
IMO correct:I can't remember where but I read the h chips are the same as the b chips and the h chips are just marketed toward horticulture? No idea is this is true I haven't looked into personally.
Whoops, sorry. Hit the wrong button.Only one very SMALL correction..
The 301H diodes are the updated 301B chips. (The B chips came after the 561 Cs )
FWIW, I still buy the B versions.
Love the Kingbright lights and also my older HLGs.
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