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First off, awesome first post! Welcome to the farm. Sorry about the two threads thing.....stuff happens.Maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen any mention of the terpine humulene, which is also claimed to be an appetite suppressant. I just found out about this the other day, and am looking for more info on it.
It would be nice to find or breed a strain that was rich in both THCV and humulene, Wouldn't it? Girl Scout Cookies is supposed to be high in the humulene, but with only a trace of THCV, even though Durban Poison is one of the parents.First off, awesome first post! Welcome to the farm. Sorry about the two threads thing.....stuff happens.
Also, congratulations on the weight loss! I have to imagine that feels amazing for you. I know after my own i feel much better.
Re: humulene, it is supposed to be the dominant terp in widow and i can back up the hunger thing with widow....(and yes i get that hoppy sense from it....i used to be a very enthusiastic beer drinker).
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You can see above (tlc test i did) that the widow I just grew definitely has thcv.It would be nice to find or breed a strain that was rich in both THCV and humulene, Wouldn't it? Girl Scout Cookies is supposed to be high in the humulene, but with only a trace of THCV, even though Durban Poison is one of the parents.
- Girl Scout Cookies: This popular strain has some of the highest humulene levels around at approximately 2.45%. In addition to its fantastic terpene profile, Girl Scout Cookies contains an average of 17% THC and trace levels of CBD.
- Thin Mint Girl Scout Cookies: As the name suggests, Thin Mint GSC is closely related to Girl Scout Cookies. However, it is a slightly more balanced hybrid with a 50/50 indica to sativa breakdown. It contains around 2.35% humulene and an average of 20% THC.
Hello, I just found this forum (and thread) searching around for info on THCV.
This is my first post here. I found out about THCV accidentally. I hadn't smoked anything in some years, and a friend told me about this strain he was using that he said gave him energy and motivation. He gave me some, and I was kind of hesitant because I thought it would give me munchies, and I was severely overweight.So I tried a tiny hit in a pipe. Boy, it was strong. Lunch time rolled around where I would usually stuff myself after a few aperitivi, and I wasn't really hungry, and the thought of eating kind of turned me off. Wow - this is great! I kept using it, and now over a year later, I have lost 65 pounds. The strain? Durban Poison. It not only killed my appetite, it made me feel satiated after eating very little. It also turned me off to alcohol, and helped me develop better eating habits, so my dependence on the smoke lessened.
Last week I harvested a couple of ounces of Jack the Ripper f2 from Subcool seeds. Got it from a cool US seller too. It's in cure right now. I only have room for a very small grow, so I use a "space bucket" of my own design. Three plants in a trash can with lights on top, grown in an ultra simple hydroponic setup. There are pics, but I don't know if I'm allowed to link them here.
I've read through the two threads on this subject with much interest, you guys are light years ahead of where I am, but I thought I would share my experience. I'm a real novice at this. Right now I have some Novarine seeds on order from Spain.
Maybe I missed it, but I haven't seen any mention of the terpine humulene, which is also claimed to be an appetite suppressant. I just found out about this the other day, and am looking for more info on it.
I wish I could find a lab that detailed. Very nice report, and cheaper than mine to boot. Time to move to OK.Here are the results from my green stem Lebanese
No thcV. Some CBD tho.View attachment 1106864
It would be nice to find or breed a strain that was rich in both THCV and humulene, Wouldn't it? Girl Scout Cookies is supposed to be high in the humulene, but with only a trace of THCV, even though Durban Poison is one of the parents.
- Girl Scout Cookies: This popular strain has some of the highest humulene levels around at approximately 2.45%. In addition to its fantastic terpene profile, Girl Scout Cookies contains an average of 17% THC and trace levels of CBD.
- Thin Mint Girl Scout Cookies: As the name suggests, Thin Mint GSC is closely related to Girl Scout Cookies. However, it is a slightly more balanced hybrid with a 50/50 indica to sativa breakdown. It contains around 2.35% humulene and an average of 20% THC.
Not necessarily. Terpenes - by their very nature as molecules, don't like to live long lives. Some are far more suicidal than others, but they are not "one thing" that you can put a general statement around like that.That will b interesting indeed, have you read that adding malodextrin makes edibles work faster? I'm also wondering about doing fresh extract before decarbing then allowing a time decarb'. You would get more of the terpenes that way right?
I am fairly sure lecithin helps edible uptake time. I haven't double blind tested it, but anecdotally from someone who makes a lot of edibles, if lecithin gets forgotten in the recipe i will notice. Like if my wife forgets, i think i notice.That will b interesting indeed, have you read that adding malodextrin makes edibles work faster?
smooth, earthy, maybe nutty? I've thought about this a ton, and I just don't remember clearly enough to be certain.I have a lot of thoughts, but first: what did the Durban taste like?
I always have a hard time describing weed smell or taste. I've only been able to do it three times.smooth, earthy, maybe nutty? I've thought about this a ton, and I just don't remember clearly enough to be certain.
First, in my humble view, thinking you're going to test so many variables concurrently will lead to insanity. For the computer science savvy among you, it becomes an N-P complete problem in short order, and add in the qualitative nature of the effects we're looking for, the results become questionable, at best, without a lot of cash and test subjects.
I'm of the mind that with your distillates, you have the materials you need to figure this out in a reasonable time frame if you back into the problem rather than trying to figure out exactly what's going on. For one, if you know a strain that "does it for you", buy more of those seeds and do a pheno search for effects. Once you have the effects you want, THEN is an excellent time for TLC to try to figure out the ratios of the various components that do the trick, and then you're golden.
My other suggestion is to identify a strain you like -- maybe a 1:1 THC/CBD -- and add in your THCV distillate in a managed ratio to see how different ratios affect strength and duration of the appetite management.
If we were armed with appropriate scientific research on the various components in cannabis, we'd have a more substantial foundation for how they work together, but since real research is only beginning to get funding, we're pretty much at the observation stage, so a simpler, shotgun approach with basic hypotheses to narrow the variability is a path to progress without getting stuck in a quagmire.
Right okay. That's enough. There are Durban cuts out there with loud limonene. Doubt that will help with pain.smooth, earthy, maybe nutty? I've thought about this a ton, and I just don't remember clearly enough to be certain.
Yes I do. And that white widow in the UV testing thread has ton of limonene to play with soon. I tried a bit uncured a couple days ago and it was nothing like I remembered but tasted like a dog shit on the flower bed.Right okay. That's enough. There are Durban cuts out there with loud limonene. Doubt that will help with pain.
What you are describing sounds more like what I would think of as being associated with pain relief, personally.
I forget, do you have CBG to play with?
What you are describing sounds more like what I would think of as being associated with pain relief, personally.
That is an interesting take.I'm not sure if this will help or if it's just a recipe to get really wrecked, but have you tried the thcv isolate with a heavy indica? I know it's taking this a different direction because real Durban Poison is VERY sativa, but those heavy indicas are good for pain and quite sedative. I can't help but wonder if this might help the wired, jitteriness and address the pain part too?
Maybe that real Durban is so special because she is a sativa that somehow produces a profile that we would normally expect from something more indica with the added zing of thcv?
I don't know, I'm pretty baked at the moment, does this make sense?
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