Second grow: Gorilla Glue #4 auto.

SweetLeafGrow · Oct 16, 2022

Awesomeness Bro! You did great on your first grow and wow, you got your $ worth!

I did a lot of reading and ultimately decided on RDWC. Had some challenges along the way for the first time but got some great help here at the Farm, got me to the finish line. Here is a link to that grow if you are interested in checking it out. I had started out using the same nutes you are using but had issues so switched mid stream. Won't be going back to AN but I do know their system works for some, just not for me.

First RDWC Grow - Taking the Deep Water Culture Plunge

Greetings Cultivators! I have 3 full grows under my belt indoors in soil but now am opening a new chapter and taking the plunge into RDWC. I have been impressed with folks growing this way and so I decided to give it a shot but I have to admit, I feel like I am starting all over again....twice...

www.thcfarmer.com

Started my 2nd hydro around the first of October and things are cruising along well so far, still learning but getting the hang of it.

Dragons Flame Mac Dragon bx1 in Updated RDWC System

Greetings Farm Fam! Super excited to get my 2nd RDWC grow going after all the successes and challenges from the last grow where I got my feet wet in RDWC. Special THANKS to Moe and Aquaman for all their great assistance in getting me to the finish line...

www.thcfarmer.com

AmokNewb · Oct 16, 2022

Day 27:

One more day left of week 4! Getting pumped for the stretch and the start of bud stacking time. Today I checked the reservoir it creeped up to 6.1PH I dropped it back down to 5.9. I’m not to sure how I like this NuteTools PH/Temp/PPM pen. The cheap Amazon ones I have seem to be more reliable, but I will stick it out for this run.

I also did some extensive LST this morning it has been several days since the last torture session and they really needed it if I am going to keep this grow under control and fitting in my space.

I feel these plants don’t even look like or act like the same strain. Amy is far las bushy, with way smaller fan leaves than Rose. Also a lot lighter in color. I am wondering if they are even the same strain. My last run they were the same strain but severely different phenos. One was a good 1.5 feet taller than the other after stretch. Take a look see what you guys think. These seeds are from growers choice as were my last runs seeds. Next run I am going with some seeds man stains I have lying around.

Well enough if the boring stuff time for my bad photography…

Day 27 Amy side and top pre LST

Day 27 Rose side and top pre LST:

Day 27 Garden:

Day 27 Amy post LST and I snapped another branch ugh!:

Day 27 Rose post LST:

Day 27 Garden post LST and new exhale bag. Also some pistils on Amy:

Well that’s all folks! Check back for more updates!

AmokNewb · Oct 16, 2022

@SweetLeafGrow,

I will check out this grows now thanks for the links. Also I am and have used GH for all my vegging for both runs. I used AN for the last month or so of my last grow because I had to go out of town and the PH Perfect tech they have works awesome for being able to leave a steady reservoir for a week or more. But it is super expensive. I will probably use up what I have left of my AN flowering nutes this run towards the last month or so of flowering since I have them lying around.

SweetLeafGrow · Oct 16, 2022

Cool, you want some more AN? I have some leftovers and don't know what to do with them. Pay the shipping and they're yours if you want them.

AmokNewb · Oct 16, 2022

@SweetLeafGrow

Yeah I need or can use any that can be used for coco… let me know what you got!! Thanks in advance( pun intended)

SweetLeafGrow · Oct 16, 2022

OK, so yea, I forgot they have a coco blend. I don't think mine is that.

I just looked and what I have is Sensi Grow and Sensi Bloom and most of the additives that come in their starter pack. Most of the bloom formulas are gone because I was changing out my res ever 2-3 days and then everyday at the end. There is still a lot of the grow part a and b because I didn't have real problems until I was in flower.

AmokNewb · Oct 17, 2022

Day 28:

No real update today other than a good reservoir disinfecting and cleaning and refill. I am going to stay with 12g of my late veg nute solution for this refill. If I have the room I’ll make 6 extra gallons of my flip to pistils formula and put that in too. And every top off from now until after stretch will be of that solution. I think maybe around 2 weeks or so… if anyone wants my nute ratios just holler.

No pictures other than from my tent cam

Day 28 Tent cam:

Happy growing all!

AmokNewb · Oct 18, 2022

Good afternoon everyone. Starting week 5.

Today marks what I am calling day 1 of flower. It’s hard to say when flower/flip starts with autos for me, but, I have spotted more than a couple pistils on both plants. Both also seem to be starting the stretch phase so I am calling it flip day.

A few changes that I am making starting today are:
1: I cleaned and refilled my reservoir last night with 12 gallons of late veg nutes. From here on out I’ll be topping off the res with a flip to pistil solution and run that for about a week or until I start seeing some more pistils.
2: I’ll be setting up my scrog net this week at some point. I am planning on tucking stems during the entire stretch hopefully, if I can keep up with it.

Now that it is getting cold here and our heat is starting to be used in the house I have noticed my humidity which I kept at 60-62% is now been holding at about 56%. Should I use a humidifier at this point? Or will they be fine at a lower RH like this?

I also raised my lights about as high as they go and adjusted them to give the plants about 500-550 PPFD. Eyeballing the light I would say they are about 3ft from the canopy or so. Since they are 450w in a 2.3ft x 2.3ft tent I only have to turn them up to 35-40% so far. They give literally edge to edge coverage lmao…

Anyway! Welcome to the flower portion of this thread!!!

AmokNewb · Oct 18, 2022

Day 29:

Basically, I briefly checked in on the plants and they wil need some LST today. No reservoir adjustments needdd today it was sitting at a perfect 6PH nice cool temps and about 650-670PPM.

Thinking about defoliating a little again today. Think this is wise? I did a lot of light defoliation sessions my first grow and it seemed to work ok on those plants.

Not the best pics as usual but here they are today.

Day 29 Amy side and top:

Day 29 Rose side and top:

Day 29 Garden:

Trying to figure out how high to put my scrog net, I know I can raise and lower it before I start weaving through it. Also I think I am going to use two 4” nets on the bottom doubled up. One is strong and one is elastic. This way I will have smaller and more openings for shoots.

Cheers all! Have a great afternoon. It’s taco Tuesday as well!!!

AmokNewb · Oct 19, 2022

@SweetLeafGrow

This is what I have on hand… if you have any of the bloom amendments not shown I’ll for sure buy them. I.E. Budcandy, sensizyme, nirvana, etc.. I have enough of the parts A and B for a few months so I’ll probably switch to these mid flower or so.

AmokNewb · Oct 19, 2022

Day 30 and my day 2 of flower.

I did some of what will probably be the last LST I’ll do and some light defoliation this morning I have before and after pics. I think I’ll setup the scrog nets sooner than later. I’m just to heavy handed for LST… lol Seems a lot easier to just tuck and weave through a tent.

Question/Issue help please: One issue today when I checked my reservoir this morning it was sitting at like 4.8PH and the PPM went up a bit to almost 700PPM. I think I have a bacteria bloom or something. Which really sucks because I just cleaned and filled it. Not sure what to do about it so I adjusted the PH, andded some H2O2 and I’ll run as much of it as I can through the plants today. I’ll have to redo all the cleaning and disinfecting soon. Does anyone know if I’m doing the right thing or is there a process? Should I dump what’s there?

Beyond all that we are just rocking on and waiting for some flowers to form.

Day 30 Amy top and side pre LST:

Day 30 Amy top and side post LST:

Day 30 Rose top and side pre LST:

Day 30 Rose top and side post LST:

Day 30 Garden pre and post LST:

Day 30 Some pistils :)

AmokNewb · Oct 21, 2022

Day 32:

So I added my first round of scrog nets, and yes I used two… last grow I used the larger diameter stretchy one. I found that to not give a ton of resistance during stretch. So this time I put in the cheap string one first nice and tight and then the stretchy on top. I think this will give me a larger number of holes and places to bend the stems under. I have another stretch net if needed later as well.

Still haven’t topped off or re-cleaned my reservoir. It has like a day or two before its empty anyway. So I have been just making sure the PH is on point a couple times a day. I’ll probably do the cleaning and refill tomorrow with a flower transitioning nute solution.

Amy is pretty late to the early flower/pistil party, but she is out stretching Rose. Rose has been getting more and more pistils everyday but no real bud forming yet. I’m holding introducing some flower nutes to Amy since Rose NEEDS them will help.

Anyway here are some pics from the last few days.

Amy Day 31:

Rose day 31:

Garden days 31-32 with scrog:

Anywho… that’s all I got for today.

AmokNewb · Oct 24, 2022

Hi all.. Day 35 and last day of week 1 of flower…

Not a ton to report. I have been just doing my daily scrog duties and maintaining my reservoir and a little light defoliation here and there.. just waiting for the stretch to finish then it should be mostly on autopilot after that until harvest.

Yup about 8 weeks or more left to go… tick tick

I’ll do individual plant pic again once they are truly budding, well maybe a few before then.

Day 35 side and top scrog:

If these were not LST’d they would already be taking up half my vertical space.. let’s see how this stretch ends up.

Last grow two plants of the same strain supposedly were so different. One was about 5ft and the other only 3 trying to keep that to a minimum this time as much as I can.

AmokNewb · Oct 24, 2022

Funny is that so far the tall one is on the same side as last grow… so weird…

AmokNewb · Oct 26, 2022

Hi all!

Well yesterday was the start of week two from what I’m calling the flip or for me I just call it the start of flower. Hard to judge with autos… especially two different phenos.

Day 36 week 2 of flower:
Today was pretty tame, adjusted reservoir to 5.9PH. I tucked the plants under the scrog as best I could, I am running out of room so I might just have to let them start working vertically. I also did some defoliation today, mainly to open up the centers just a bit. I think I am going to have another staggered harvest this grow. Rose is showing more and more pistils, where Amy just isn’t. Amy seems to really really want to stretch. Last but not least I upped my lights to about 625 PPFD.

Day 36 scrog side and top before light defoliation.

Day 37:
Did a little more leaf and scrog tucking today. Also, made sure my reservoir was within PH range. Adjusted from 6.1 to 5.9PH. I am still not seeing much in the pistil department on Amy so she will get tucked a bit longer perhaps. Rose has new pistils everyday so I am thinking she might be good to let go vertically.

Day 37 Scrog side and top before the daily tuck, with misc roots and macro of rose…

Well that’s is it for today, please leave any comments, advice, encouragement, or criticisms you might have. I’m open for discussion and to see some grow comparisons. Cheers all and have a great day!

AmokNewb · Oct 27, 2022

Hahaha

I found some pistils on Amy but man they are like 5 times smaller than Rose. I had to go macro on this one. You can see how small it is compared to the scrog netting behind it… I’m interested to see what kind of flowers this plant will produce.

AmokNewb · Oct 28, 2022

.Day 38: well I’m still tucking both plants at this point. Pulled a few under leaves as well. I refilled the reservoir with early flower nutes today as well. 12 gallons at 650PPM and 5.8PH. Lights are at 650PPFD.

Day 39: had to top off the reservoir, so I did it with early flower nutes. PPM 650 PH 5.8. Did some scrofulous tucking and that’s about it.

Day 39 Scrog side and top and some pistil macros…

AmokNewb · Nov 2, 2022

Well we are into the start of week 3 of Flip/Flower. Not a ton to report other than some pretty good growth and me running out of horizontal room in the tent . I’ve graduated the reservoir to 100% early flower nutes. The top off today will be the last top off of early flower, I will be introducing a mid flower recipe next time.

Amy is still not in full bloom yet and her pistils are half the size and girth as Roses. Such a weird plant. I think I will have to harvest each separately again like I did last grow.

I do love seeing the scrog netting bowing from the force of the plants growing . I am probably going to have to put my second one up in a week or so.

Anyway here are some pictures over the last couple days.

Day 41:

Amy day 41:

Rose day 41:

Day 42:

AmokNewb · Nov 9, 2022

Welll a quick update at the start of what I think is the beginning of the 4th week of flower or when I first saw pistils. As these are autos so hard to say really.

We will start with chores to start out this week. Yesterday was day 48 and I cleaned and disinfected my reservoir and any other equipment. I refilled my rez with early flower nutes. PPM 650 PH 5.9

Today day 49 I removed my exhaust fan and filter from inside the tent. This allowed me to raise my lights to the very top giving me another 8 or so inches of space between the plants and the lights. Amy was getting really close already and since this exact thing happened last grow I wanted to get it done before Amy starts packing flowers. Lights at the top of Amy are at a PPFD of around 850, giving rose about, 650-700.

Day 49 light and fan moving:
Before:

After:

With that being said Amy still isn’t packing yet, even though it really looks like she wants to start. She is about 2.5 feet above the scrog net. She is getting early flower nutrients anyway because I have to also keep Rose happy.

Amy day 48-49:

Rose is flowering pretty well. Starting to see trichomes developing on the leaves and she is starting to smell a bit. The smell is sweet right now and a little earthy.

Rose day 49:

All in all I think everything is going as well as it can and I am mostly on autopilot right now. The only thing I wish for is for Amy to start packing some flowers and stop stretching. Even though the bigger she is hopefully the bigger the yield. Again, this is what happened my last grow any how…

Well that’s all I have for now. I might try to make a Timelapse of the last month or so. Since I had to move my camera when I moved my lights.

Cheers comrades and have a good grow!

AmokNewb · Nov 11, 2022

Rose is starting to get some frost already.

Day 50: a couple shots of one of Roses flowers and a full shot of her as well.

Second grow: Gorilla Glue #4 auto.

Second grow: Gorilla Glue #4 auto.

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