I agree that this are problems that are fundamental and have been written and adapted into the American Life, through mental manipluation and brainwashing of the poor!Sorry brother, but I see what your saying, just that you're a part of the very propaganda scheme that we should be rebuffing.
To start, things are indeed very bad... all over. But the reasons for this have been in place & planned for a number of decades... and have very little to do with collective bargaining... nor taxing the poor or middle classes.
Regardless, the point of concern is that an appointed State figure can dissolve a city's government & call all debts/contracts off... even business contracts & deals with corporations... even the local landscaping company that has been under contract with the city... even the past due invoices, per se. That's hubris in the light of what our country should be like.
I see the rhetoric & propaganda campaign as the fear the government uses to strip us of the last of our recognizable rights... in the name of terrorism, in the name of natural disaster, in the name of economic peril, in the name of drug cartels, in the name of collective bargaining, in the name of social services, in the name of communism, in the name of ...
Yes things are bad, but of whose real doing? It is those that are fear mongering... and taking... and taking... and taking... and taking.... Wanna find the ones that should be held accountable... follow the money & the amassed wealth & the power. Good luck finding it with the masses of people... or their unions.
We should move away from the rhetoric & propaganda... and we should be asking some really tough questions... and demanding accountability, not withering away our abilities to do so, no???
Just my take. Peace y'all
But BOCO, say said michigan city owes me and 5 of my friends all who are on the city chamber of commerce (how we got the city contracts), because we were friends with the people running the city. NOW, said asshole comes in and tells me and my colleagues that he no longer owes us (the people who make/families MADE) this town that our payment will no longer be forthcoming. This is ignorance in the first degree, who would even think that this would be acceptable? How could it work, it will put the whole State out of business immediately as with the proposed cuts ALOT of city's will be in this position within 12 months.....
Jason King Wrote a book called collapse, it is a peek into History and a look into exactly why other "civilizations on earth" have collapsed....Very often times the top become too financially heavy and the bottom comes backs and GET THEIRS!
Totally worth the read - Collapse by Jason King.
I hope we let all the big companies fail, last time I looked they just make my friends go out of business and claim bankruptcy when the numbers don't work out (small to med size businesses all ACROSS the country, and its not due to Unions) its due the ever increasing wealth gap, and the fundamental rights average americans are giving up everyday!But we also cant keep blaming some man in the shadows pulling the strings. even if there is one people get old and they die. ideologies change over time, just like weed being outlowed all over now its becoming more and more acceptable. The man really isnt one guy, its just a thought in your head.
were do we really go from here? keep jacking taxes on theses big business they will flee to over seas. then the only thing that we will be left with is companies that can take the tax increases. guess what ones those are...? yep big pharma, they will never leave medicaid will keep them going for ever. yep its government funded by us. tobacco companies, liquor, service, health and insurance. every other company will fold but theses cuz they will force us to incur the costs. cigarettes can be $50 a pack and they will still sell man. you are forced to have insurance on everything of value even your health and your life soon. and even if the company goes bankrupt , we will bail them out(AIG). i say fuck that let them fail. we bailed out all those banks man. you think my mortgage should be all good right now or my credit card debt. nope they raised the interest on my credit card.
It dont matter what side you are on as long as you know whats going on. shit your way may work better then mine. but to watch some video and thats all you know and have outrage is just ridiculous. obama spent more in his 1st 4 months in office then Bush did his entire 8 years and no one cares. dose someone think 14 trillion exists?
IMVHO, the only place we can go is into social regression, we must start producing our own goods LOCALLY (quit using so much Middle Eastern Oil to transport stuff made across the country when we could pay AMERICAN workers to build these products in another location) But the oil industry has such a big lobby than somehow this just doesn't make fiscal sense. WELL F**k fiscal sense cuz our world is going to fall apart with ignorance like this at the helm (ie....THE GULF OF MEXICO - Where did the news coverage of the trillion gallons of oil in our ocean go). Americans need to get off of the bagged food diet and starting eating food not in cardboard boxes, get out to their local farms and or grow your own food. I'm going to produce my share today (worlds greatest natural sweet - Maple Syrup) I do not think our Government will save us from the mess that we are in, and it will be a grassroots movement that changes this country....For the better or worse...
Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread, whether agreed or not, as it feels terrific to be able to stretch your mind a little in an intelligent debate!