one of the factors that is not considered by the growers is the shipping costs. all of these lights need to be shipped overseas and the smaller the package the lower the logistics costs. I personally purchased a 6 panel light that was only 4" between the two strips, so I spread them apart to cover a 3X5 room with only 6" of space all around the outside. I feel this has a better coverage. All light manufacturers try to have a high number, which can only be achieved by focusing more light in the center of the area, to attract buyers. IMO the lights should be spread out more to give an even canopy coverage so allowing the leaf at the side of the tent to have the same light as the center of the room. I am sure some day lights will be leaning more to the strip lighting stye and having them more to put it together at home style to save on shipping but give the best coverage for the end user. the current is that all the best diodes are bought before they are even made so the cost of the components is at a higher price point because of supply and demand leaving smaller profits for the light makers which means less money for R&D into new light configurations. all just my views.Yes, it really boils down to fundamentals, and how the original light progressed, I think once they progressed to the 2000's going wide again with the 4000's was the mistake, they should have made it double long instead, going wide again is far too intense in the center portion of the light footprint, thus the thoughts about revisiting the engineering part. Because the only way to reconfigure it to back the light off the plants, or turn it down.
But material availability and price are a big part of doing that affordably, so I don't know if it's possible.
It doesn't give the versatility to be able to spread the lights out to compensate. Anything that allows you to control the configuration and adjust the footprint is going to be very helpful. Sometimes less is more. I'm thinking 3 1000's, or better yet, 2x 2000's can be more efficient as one of the 4000, with good placement.
even if your only getting like 4x1 extra space, that's like 3 more plants possible. from say 9 possible to 12 possible which would equate to a 25% increase.
Spreading that footprint out allows you to dial down the lights closer to the pant with more intensity as before, resulting in better overall penetration and more optimum light coverage, all while increasing the canopy size.
I see all of the gums flapping and the fingers typing, but @Grownsince95 has a nice grow going. Those lights appear to be doing pretty great! Plants look good. Wtf more can people ask for?
Raise your hand if you have been published in High Times or on any top shelf Canna Publlication/Website.
Get my point? I've got some plants doing 500 MILLION times better under LEDs than the same strain did under the sun as well as my Sunblaze T5HO's. Straight up. They are killing it. Do I even want to see if there is anything beyond that horizon? Nope. No way. For what? I'm growing for personal consumption only as are a lot of people here. But if I was growing commercially? I'm not sure I'd change a thing. I'd be PROUD to present the nugs coming out from under the lights over the counter of ANY dispensary bar none. Because the mids those fuckers carry are usually "cured" for 2 - 6 weeks before distribution and finish it out with the time they spend in the jar waiting to get bought.
Bottom line is that I can name at LEAST a dozen seasoned growers right here on this forum and at LEAST 2 new growers (5 grows or less) who are doing it on SF and other LED setups that will slay the quality of the majority of the dispensary weed that's out there.
And at the end of the day? That's good enough for me. Besides when my nugs look like someone pissed a frost storm over them, what comes next? Just a White Christmas style frost? Heh. To me it's not worth the Gravitas or HLG prices to put a couple more trichomes on the bud.
But whatever, it's a personal preference. I don't think there is a right or wrong answer, more like a right or wrong fit for the grow you run with the equipment that's available.
None of the argument has anything to do with a modern led being able to grow plants and at a higher efficiency and output per watt. The difference is going to be longevity and or premature failures due to cost cutting on parts and build quality.
You can grow big frosty buds with a handful of old cfl twisty bulbs. Its mostly grower and environment and genetics. Light is more of a how much thing as plants transfer photosynthesis to the most intense wavelengths anyway. How the plant grows can be customized with different color led’s but the market is in a pfd for the money contest rather than the real benefits of mixing color light for plant growth.
And its almost cheap enough to buy them now. ;-)
Well, that is great.love my sf-4000 on third grow. looking to get an sf2000 for my veg tent
Sorry, no offense was intended. I was just offering up my opinion which I thought was ok. Someone needs to chill. Didn't mean to piss anybody off. Sometimes these forums are not fun.I see all of the gums flapping and the fingers typing, but @Grownsince95 has a nice grow going. Those lights appear to be doing pretty great! Plants look good. Wtf more can people ask for?
Raise your hand if you have been published in High Times or on any top shelf Canna Publlication/Website.
Get my point? I've got some plants doing 500 MILLION times better under LEDs than the same strain did under the sun as well as my Sunblaze T5HO's. Straight up. They are killing it. Do I even want to see if there is anything beyond that horizon? Nope. No way. For what? I'm growing for personal consumption only as are a lot of people here. But if I was growing commercially? I'm not sure I'd change a thing. I'd be PROUD to present the nugs coming out from under the lights over the counter of ANY dispensary bar none. Because the mids those fuckers carry are usually "cured" for 2 - 6 weeks before distribution and finish it out with the time they spend in the jar waiting to get bought.
Bottom line is that I can name at LEAST a dozen seasoned growers right here on this forum and at LEAST 2 new growers (5 grows or less) who are doing it on SF and other LED setups that will slay the quality of the majority of the dispensary weed that's out there.
And at the end of the day? That's good enough for me. Besides when my nugs look like someone pissed a frost storm over them, what comes next? Just a White Christmas style frost? Heh. To me it's not worth the Gravitas or HLG prices to put a couple more trichomes on the bud.
But whatever, it's a personal preference. I don't think there is a right or wrong answer, more like a right or wrong fit for the grow you run with the equipment that's available.
Yeah, that’s right. I’ve been looking at a couple of them lately.They are lower powered to save money. The 2 board draws 202 and 4 board 438 I believe.
Hi Jory. Maybe start a new thread for aquapots so it doesn’t get lost.Hi,
I was wondering if anyone has any experience or knows anything about Aquapots? I was looking at getting one of their setups, but would like to talk to someone whose used them first to get their take on them.
thanks a lot guys.
Yo bro I'm not pissed. Sorry it came across that way :)Sorry, no offense was intended. I was just offering up my opinion which I thought was ok. Someone needs to chill. Didn't mean to piss anybody off. Sometimes these forums are not fun.
Damn now those look stickyI know a lot of guys bash your products online here. I don’t, I like the cost and my spider Farmer lights so far.
Pleased to meet you!
a little testimony of your products results.
this is a sour Diesel Strain flowered at 5 weeks 3 days. I have all my medical marijuana growing indoors with Spider Farmer lights.
Just the tip of it and a few buds.
What would you recommend for a 4x4?SF2000
Core coverage: 2x4ft
Max coverage: 3x4ft
I know you're not asking me lol but I've seen guys use 2 in a 4x4. I use 2 of a comparable size in a 2 x 8 space with fantastic results.What would you recommend for a 4x4?
Hi,Hi Jory. Maybe start a new thread for aquapots so it doesn’t get lost.
Sister in this case. :-)Hi,
That’s a great idea, thanks a lot for that brother.
Yeah, I’ve seen 2 in a 4x4 before as well, I been considering a sf4000 for a 4x2 space if I end up going with SF.I know you're not asking me lol but I've seen guys use 2 in a 4x4. I use 2 of a comparable size in a 2 x 8 space with fantastic results.
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