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From what i read, its been around a long time. Probably started with bullet holes in Columbia.There may be truth to physical damage causing plant reactions. I imagine it would be more akin to pulling off leaves or shoots, mimicking herbivore or insect damage though. I highly doubt fucking your stem at its base does anything noticeable other than just repairing it. Nobody who claims these things is ever showing a plain side by side of the same cut and genetic changes can be so small in some ways that same strain is not even half good enough. When i was doing my regular testing with real side by sides i couldn't get physical damage to affect buds in any way other than the physical damage, period. I didn't test, and won't test, stabbing a plant at its base because it doesn't make any sense and ive already tested piercing and obstructing stems and shoots and it does nothing but make it heal around it. People have been cultivating this plant for years. If you think something even a caveman might test is going to improve your bud quality, you need to rethink your approach to cannabis and plants as a whole. Two buds next to each other on the same plant can have two completely different lives based on so many things. It's not a valid way to test either. Just my opinion though, do you.
For sure. It probably goes back even to discovery of the plant. I'm sure there are half trampled, split, or maybe even pierced stems just from animals and elements. I'm sure early cultivators tested shit, probably everything from praying to burning certain parts and everything between. Stabbing your cannabis plants at the end of their life is a good way to invite problems and pests to your harvest. I could see this ending in bud rot ridiculously easily.From what i read, its been around a long time. Probably started with bullet holes in Columbia.
Probably not as much as supercropping buds. I just went through a round of budrot/mold on a very bushy girl that i am nearly sure was “wounded” by gently bending the bud stems away from the main stalk. Thats where the mold started anyway. Grow and learn.For sure. It probably goes back even to discovery of the plant. I'm sure there are half trampled, split, or maybe even pierced stems just from animals and elements. I'm sure early cultivators tested shit, probably everything from praying to burning certain parts and everything between. Stabbing your cannabis plants at the end of their life is a good way to invite problems and pests to your harvest. I could see this ending in bud rot ridiculously easily.
Could have. Ive seen damage, like a bud dropping and breaking off/the stem, and starving too long for harvest flush cause bud rot consistently and quickly for many years.Probably not as much as supercropping buds. I just went through a round of budrot/mold on a very bushy girl that i am nearly sure was “wounded” by gently bending the bud stems away from the main stalk. Thats where the mold started anyway. Grow and learn.
The Chinese have been stem splitting for centuries. You are right, would need same cut, side by side, and trichome evaluation.There may be truth to physical damage causing plant reactions. I imagine it would be more akin to pulling off leaves or shoots, mimicking herbivore or insect damage though. I highly doubt fucking your stem at its base does anything noticeable other than just repairing it. Nobody who claims these things is ever showing a plain side by side of the same cut and genetic changes can be so small in some ways that same strain is not even half good enough. When i was doing my regular testing with real side by sides i couldn't get physical damage to affect buds in any way other than the physical damage, period. I didn't test, and won't test, stabbing a plant at its base because it doesn't make any sense and ive already tested piercing and obstructing stems and shoots and it does nothing but make it heal around it. People have been cultivating this plant for years. If you think something even a caveman might test is going to improve your bud quality, you need to rethink your approach to cannabis and plants as a whole. Two buds next to each other on the same plant can have two completely different lives based on so many things. It's not a valid way to test either. Just my opinion though, do you. I will respectfully watch any testing because i believe there's value in anything done with learning in mind.
Pretty much. There is a reason a vast majority of large scale growers don't do things like this. It's the fun rehashed "experiments" (I quote experiment simply because people have been trying stuff like this for so long, yet there is no quantifiable evidence to it's alleged benefits). In reality, a better method of this is introducing an SAR or ISR in which the plant has a chemical response to a (non-existent) threat, rather than physically harming the plant, which has a higher chance of complications with pest/pathogens than any potential theorized benefit.Sounds like bro science. What the brain wants to believe becomes reality. The problem is that a damaged plant is a weakened plant. Here's where disease and pests move in because well that's their job. They're the garbage collectors.
Precisely, insect frass is the best means of tricking a plant into thinking it's under attack and activating secondary SARs. Kelp meal, alfalfa, and aloe are also loaded with cytokinins that trick the plant into producing mass amounts of auxins.Pretty much. There is a reason a vast majority of large scale growers don't do things like this. It's the fun rehashed "experiments" (I quote experiment simply because people have been trying stuff like this for so long, yet there is no quantifiable evidence to it's alleged benefits). In reality, a better method of this is introducing an SAR or ISR in which the plant has a chemical response to a (non-existent) threat, rather than physically harming the plant, which has a higher chance of complications with pest/pathogens than any potential theorized benefit.
Gotta love you guys, theres half a dozen anecdotes of damaged plants being superior in this thread alone. How do you know what big growers do? Topping, fimming, manifolding, supercropping all damage the plant. I knew a guy who stepped on his plants to keep them low to the ground and it produced good results, basically early supercropping. I dont know what the effects will be but bugs and disease are not a threat at this point.Precisely, insect frass is the best means of tricking a plant into thinking it's under attack and activating secondary SARs. Kelp meal, alfalfa, and aloe are also loaded with cytokinins that trick the plant into producing mass amounts of auxins.
It's all good. Go stomp your plants if that's what you want to do. I'm just telling you about some other options.Gotta love you guys, theres half a dozen anecdotes of damaged plants being superior in this thread alone. How do you know what big growers do? Topping, fimming, manifolding, supercropping all damage the plant. I knew a guy who stepped on his plants to keep them low to the ground and it produced good results, basically early supercropping. I dont know what the effects will be but bugs and disease are not a threat at this point.
Gotta love you guys, theres half a dozen anecdotes of damaged plants being superior in this thread alone. How do you know what big growers do? Topping, fimming, manifolding, supercropping all damage the plant. I knew a guy who stepped on his plants to keep them low to the ground and it produced good results, basically early supercropping. I dont know what the effects will be but bugs and disease are not a threat at this point.
I don't play upon ego. That's never my intention. I stay humble as best I can and I always know there is more to learn. For that same reason I hate the term "master grower", because it defies the idea that we are all students that should continue to learn and be open to new ideas. I hope nothing but the best for all growers and I help when and where I can. In all fairness, you are the one who asked how I would know what the big growers do and I responded truthfully about my experience, both firsthand and throughout my network of colleagues. It's definitely true that plants can respond to threat with a response that may improve and increase both resin production and yield, however, physically damaging a plant isn't likely the best option (hence why I mentioned SAR/ISR) and it can actually cause stunting depending on the severity of the damage.And there’s the big dick. You’re one single grower, experienced but one grower with eight greenhouses. Thanks for your opinion.