Moe.Red
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Yeah if you could direct the supply to spray the root zone you would not need water up to the net pot and could run that 24/7.That was also an idea I had.
I really thought the extra empty space was screaming for O2 and water to dance around the roots.
Not sure I understand emitting fog, but know you would have my back if it easily incorporates.
I could pretty easily set up a shower type head in each bucket.
That type of set up would run on timers and not 24/7?
I would really like the ease of 24/7 feeding.
If I turn the drain tube elbow to face up then water has to fill higher to overflow out.
That could be water right up to an inch below pot or higher if I wanted.
This is my original and desired set up. The part that is my own twist from playing with water.
The overflow encourages more gas exchange and higher DO levels, besides all the help from air pump and circulation.
I have seen perlite, coco and 'hydrotron' used in links.If im correct I believe they get filled with perlite
Yes but you would need to install the aero components.I have seen perlite, coco and 'hydrotron' used in links.
The use of medium turns the set up into a drip system IMO?
If I leave the bucket empty can I just use the space like in aero?
I have seen perlite, coco and 'hydrotron' used in links.
The use of medium turns the set up into a drip system IMO?
If I leave the bucket empty can I just use the space like in aero?
Do you use a medium in your buckets?
I haven't used them (Yet) just saw it as maybe a solution.Do you use a medium in your buckets?
I'll guess yes and that is the reason for your comment about too much water being retained.
If the buckets were kept empty and the net pots had hydrotron or the collar couldn't a wick also be used until roots hit bottom?
I appreciate everyone's feedback.
I don't expect you guys to say yea that will work [ with implied resonsibilty], but would really like if you could say that won't work.
I don't think I am stretching much, but I also think different than others often and kind of like tinkering.
Like my old friend
Hey, Good morning, I was just reading through the posts and I saw you mentioned putting an air stone in your res. I just bought some Auto Pots and I've been reading up and watching video's on how to grow using them....It was mentioned in one video not to use air stones in reservoirs but to use a small water pumps to stir the water because the air stones will fk with the ph in your water...causing problem down the line...Some links I have read use a medium in the bucket.
My first thought was it was just a shallow RDWC set up but now think it is used more like rock wool and emmiters?
I was thinking just a net pot and the water at whatever level. No media besides what is in net pot.
Maybe there is no major difference between filling bucket or net pot, but I prefer the net pot.
I plan to use air stones in buckets and res and a good circulation pump to feed.
I would have thought without medium it would run 24/7 like RDWC, but with medium they say to feed like 2x an hour.
I still like the bucket design, but now wonder if I am just dreaming up my system?
@Moe.Red the drain connections may leak, but that is not a concern since the drain is positioned above the return line to res.
The water has to flow out the premanufactured drain/ nipple.
Hey brother if your water is not at equilibrium with the gasses surrounding it then it can increase PH but this is due to the of gassing of co2. If the ph is rising with awration it’s usually due to the poor gas exchange to begin with not the aeration itself.Hey, Good morning, I was just reading through the posts and I saw you mentioned putting an air stone in your res. I just bought some Auto Pots and I've been reading up and watching video's on how to grow using them....It was mentioned in one video not to use air stones in reservoirs but to use a small water pumps to stir the water because the air stones will fk with the ph in your water...causing problem down the line...
Hey Moe, how did you feed your plants using the Auto pots?......full time 1/2 feed or did you cycle feed then water through your reservoir?If there is 2” of water in the bottom and then a big air gap the roots hang out in you will get root damage or air pruning. So I’m not quite sure how these work.
If you fill the buckets with coco or something then you basically built an auto pot. There are several of those grows on the farm you can see results. I started with auto pots in my stealth days and outgrew them but they do work.
Should also be a short term issue once co2 is driven off no more ph issues.Hey brother if your water is not at equilibrium with the gasses surrounding it then it can increase PH but this is due to the of gassing of co2. If the ph is rising with awration it’s usually due to the poor gas exchange to begin with not the aeration itself
I used the tank that came with the system and fed them continuously via gravity.Hey Moe, how did you feed your plants using the Auto pots?......full time 1/2 feed or did you cycle feed then water through your reservoir?
Yeah i added to my last post… and 100% want to reaffirm what you said. Once the co2 is driven off the ph will remain stableShould also be a short term issue once co2 is driven off no more ph issues.
Personally I’d rather get the co2 out immediately and deal with that little swing.
Ah okay, it took a min to understand what you were saying there. I'm just mimicking what I heard and it made sense to me thinking my house air pumped through the water would change its properties......BUT,,,,,if my water has gassed off properly it shouldn't effect the ph of the water....???? yes???.......anyways I bought a small water pump $11 Amzon I didn't want to steal my cats drinking fountain pump....Hey brother if your water is not at equilibrium with the gasses surrounding it then it can increase PH but this is due to the of gassing of co2. If the ph is rising with awration it’s usually due to the poor gas exchange to begin with not the aeration itself
Lol im aure they will appreciate that and yes you have it correctAh okay, it took a min to understand what you were saying there. I'm just mimicking what I heard and it made sense to me thinking my house air pumped through the water would change its properties......BUT,,,,,if my water has gassed off properly it shouldn't effect the ph of the water....???? yes???.......anyways I bought a small water pump $11 Amzon I didn't want to steal my cats drinking fountain pump....
No,,I understand the gravity part...its the feed part...I'm having mental issues with.....I have always...feed..water..feed..water..feed.water......Now I have a res do I still feed water or do I feed feed feed........and that will cause salt build ups...no?I used the tank that came with the system and fed them continuously via gravity.
I can see this as a good basis for a high pressure pump and spray nozzles. I got all those parts here I was building a system with aqua before I landed on fog if I can help you with that let me knowJust ordered 10 @ 11 liters and 5 @ 44 liters..
Excited to create/ modify, explore, and adapt.
Thinking a 60g sump that is 4x2x12 inches tall to have large footprint, surface area and room to play inside of.
I got you.No,,I understand the gravity part...its the feed part...I'm having mental issues with.....I have always...feed..water..feed..water..feed.water......Now I have a res do I still feed water or do I feed feed feed........and that will cause salt build ups...no?
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