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[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Just hit these two Psychedelic Banjo cola buds with some Thai Dom haymeadow purps male pollen.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Looking like 2/3 males with the PB4 x haymeadow. I'll know for sure in a few days looks like

Can't get a clean pic yet. Can just barely tell with a loupe

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Baby bumps coming a long about as quick as I've ever had em come along. Wild primrose too, just because.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Night shots!

If you see a white tag, just means its a branch ive pollinated

PB3

Psychedelic Banjo

Banjo x haymeadow purps

Haymeadow purps

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

@cpurola @TheGoldenRoad

These two pb4 x haymeadow are already identifiable as males with good eyes or a mag glass or loupe. Unfortunately the earwigs casualty is a male.

They're gonna go down to the male/Oaxaca patch today. I may or may not collect pollen from one of em this fall, I'ma watch em grow for a bit.

 

[cpurola]

Thanks! I'm starting to see signs.
BTW, I received a promo pamphlet from Twenty20 and they mention Septoria.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Thanks! I'm starting to see signs.
BTW, I received a promo pamphlet from Twenty20 and they mention Septoria.

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Yea it's even infecting the poison ivy here now.

I know I've said it before, but I personally think those Chinese balloons that have been going on since about 2022-2023 were releasing engineered forms of powdery mildew and septoria into our grain production heartland for obvious geopolitical reasons.

The new strains of septoria are so infectious you don't need biting insects, just a leaf falling on your plant from an infected tree can transmit it.

There's even strains of powdery mildew going around now that will infect your buds when you haven't had rain in a week when it's been 95° and low humidity during the day.

That's the closest I'll get to politics about all that though.

I appreciate this company, and noticing how quickly septoria has become a huge problem too. As of last year Im selecting all my phenotypes with septoria resistance high on the list. And preservation of genotypes that show strong resistance to such fungi has actually become a predominant concern of mind over the last year or so.


And they are correct, resistant cultivars and genotypes that are reliable are going to take time. The more people working on that the better.




Anyone who wonders why im always rambling about how dangerous mass-scale monoculture cultivation and excessive inbreeding can be, just ask the gros michel banana, or Lophophora cacti, or our new super strains of powdery mildew and septoria why im so worried about that, and so concerned with preserving as many fungal resistant F1s in large numbers, and spreading them to as many other growers as are willing to take them completely free of charge that i can manage to pump out. We're going to be needing those. Very soon. Within out lifetimes soon. Probably within this decade soon.

that's only one reason on a list of reasons the monoculture and mass-scale inbreeding thing bothers me. Infectious disease spreads fast in that context, and it spread violently.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Thanks! I'm starting to see signs.
BTW, I received a promo pamphlet from Twenty20 and they mention Septoria.

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seriously, this is the first time ive seen anyone private OR commercial, breeder or tinkerer, besides myself publicly point out how bad septoria got all of a sudden, out of nowhere. When i stopped in KC i might have seen a septoria spot here and there, occasionally, but it was rare. My old roomate isnt even growing outdoors this year because of how bad it was last year, and he had never even heard of it. i knew what it was vaguely, but before last year never had a reason to really dive into it.

Rama ended up with it on indoors plants its so bad in his neck of the woods. I fear this is about to quickly become a pretty catastrophic problem for outdoor growers, and possibly even indoor growers in wetter regions. Last year onc i started looking, i noticed its on literally everything outside, every tree, every shrug, all the grass, even the virginia creeper and the poison ivy. The only thing i havent seen it on is the kudzu (of course not though)


im hyper focused on columbian lineages now even more than before too, because i only had one set of plants last year never show a single septoria spot, even stood next to ones covered, lol the peaceblasters. Not the case with the peaceblaster seedmother's other lineages my old roommate has. The resistance for it def came from the columbian land race side of the lineage.

Everything i put outside this year, for mainly cultivated flower that isnt an auto has PB2 or PB4 in it. That was very on purpose.

i actually recently donated everything columbian dna i have to a boutique breeder i know in british columbia who's northern climate friendly outdoor lineages were straight ravaged by it last year noting lots of diversity between phenos, and strong septoria resistance across all of them so far. Indicas are definitely affected more heavily at least in my first season sample of like 20 plants, and if its hitting hard here, its only hitting harder up north and in the mid west im sure.

 

[captainkong]

Im starting a journal because its spring and ive been posting in the trainwreck a lot.

If you don't know me feel free to ask questions about the plant or genetics or anything.

Got this tent 3 days into 12/12. Psychedelic Banjo, Banjo x Haymeadow purps, Haymeadow Purps, and a PB3 (peaceblaster #3)
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Got this tent at about 3-4 weeks into flower. Not exactly sure how long since 12/12. These plants were trash bagged and moved a couple hours to a new place a week or two ago too. Got light nute burn from loading em up heavy so I didn't have to feed em during the move. They'll be fine
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Banjo x Columbian
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Mango Nectar x Haymeadow purps
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This year's outdoor girlies. Mine and mom's. Autos and photos. Couple banjo blaster, some special Queen x PB2, some PB4 x hay meadow purps. Alien Ryder autos. Freakshow autos, strawberry gorilla autos. Some are regs, and some are fems. Some will be sprayed down and brought in, some will be put in ground, some will prob be culled.
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Beautiful 11 fingered leaf from a PB2 x hay meadow male in hoping I can get some spring reveg pollen from to run a Haymeadow backcross in the tent that's 3 days into 1212
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I got 5 males out in the weeds. I'll get a good pic of em eventually. It's a bit of a trek to em.

That is a nice look leaf. Wondering if mine will get that many fingers. Most I've seen on mine is 7 so far.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

That is a nice look leaf. Wondering if mine will get that many fingers. Most I've seen on mine is 7 so far.

it all depends. My flow gdp usually does 5 or 7 fingers. The peaceblasters are usually 7 or 9. My '86 maui pheno will frequently do 11 and 13 fingers when really dialed in and thriving in veg. So will some of my haymeadow crosses.

Usually the more symmetrical and the less derpy a plant's structure is, and the more its thriving, and the more mature the growth is, the more fingers youll see. I let plants get bigger with more mature growth then most indoor growers because i like cloning mature growth to make small plants that have fully mature growth. Thats very difficult to do from seed when your topping and training from early on. I wouldnt probably ever see more then 7 to 9 fingers in any context if i did that.


Also to be clear, theres nothing wrong with topping out and training your plants early if that suits your method and space better, i just dont do it because i love seeing thriving mature growth going in veg transition to flower. Its an incredible thing to watch lol. (99% sure I get less Hermies from fem seed waiting til mature growth to start training and cloning too fwiw, plants also definitely flower more quickly from the 12/12 flip too)

 

[TheGoldenRoad]

Yea it's even infecting the poison ivy here now.

I know I've said it before, but I personally think those Chinese balloons that have been going on since about 2022-2023 were releasing engineered forms of powdery mildew and septoria into our grain production heartland for obvious geopolitical reasons.

The new strains of septoria are so infectious you don't need biting insects, just a leaf falling on your plant from an infected tree can transmit it.

There's even strains of powdery mildew going around now that will infect your buds when you haven't had rain in a week when it's been 95° and low humidity during the day.

That's the closest I'll get to politics about all that though.

I appreciate this company, and noticing how quickly septoria has become a huge problem too. As of last year Im selecting all my phenotypes with septoria resistance high on the list. And preservation of genotypes that show strong resistance to such fungi has actually become a predominant concern of mind over the last year or so.


And they are correct, resistant cultivars and genotypes that are reliable are going to take time. The more people working on that the better.




Anyone who wonders why im always rambling about how dangerous mass-scale monoculture cultivation and excessive inbreeding can be, just ask the gros michel banana, or Lophophora cacti, or our new super strains of powdery mildew and septoria why im so worried about that, and so concerned with preserving as many fungal resistant F1s in large numbers, and spreading them to as many other growers as are willing to take them completely free of charge that i can manage to pump out. We're going to be needing those. Very soon. Within out lifetimes soon. Probably within this decade soon.

that's only one reason on a list of reasons the monoculture and mass-scale inbreeding thing bothers me. Infectious disease spreads fast in that context, and it spread violently.

That’s funny you would say that. In both 2022 and in 2023 I fought PM on my wife’s roses until my arms were ready to fall off. That stuff was everywhere. Wasn’t a problem before or since then

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

That’s funny you would say that. In both 2022 and in 2023 I fought PM on my wife’s roses until my arms were ready to fall off. That stuff was everywhere. Wasn’t a problem before or since then

i guess ill be a little ballsey since its my own journal in my approach to a political comment. But its more geopolitically oriented then anything domestic.


im 99% sure there is currently a "plausibly deniable" bio-war, designed to stall economies more than anything, going on between the USA and China, and its been going on since, hmmmm, idk, the end of 2019 or maybe even sooner?

Pls dont ban me mods, thats all i have, and am willing to say publicly about this.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

@TheGoldenRoad dude my mom has a knockout primrose bush thats like 30 years old, taken from a cutting from a near 100 year old knockout on a nature preserve in knoxville.

it got mascaraed by PM and septoria both last year, it bloomed thick this spring, but only because im pretty sure its dying. ive had to put so much copper and shit on that thing to keep the septoria away. Its a sad mess this year. When the blooms fell back, the thing has like a dozen leaves left on the entire trellis.


Funny side story, the clematis vines, which always catches septoria or some PM or something lightly at some point or another... totally clean last year and this year both. Which is, odd to say the least....

 

[captainkong]

it all depends. My flow gdp usually does 5 or 7 fingers. The peaceblasters are usually 7 or 9. My '86 maui pheno will frequently do 11 and 13 fingers when really dialed in and thriving in veg. So will some of my haymeadow crosses.

Usually the more symmetrical and the less derpy a plant's structure is, and the more its thriving, and the more mature the growth is, the more fingers youll see. I let plants get bigger with more mature growth then most indoor growers because i like cloning mature growth to make small plants that have fully mature growth. Thats very difficult to do from seed when your topping and training from early on. I wouldnt probably ever see more then 7 to 9 fingers in any context if i did that.


Also to be clear, theres nothing wrong with topping out and training your plants early if that suits your method and space better, i just dont do it because i love seeing thriving mature growth going in veg transition to flower. Its an incredible thing to watch lol. (99% sure I get less Hermies from fem seed waiting til mature growth to start training and cloning too fwiw, plants also definitely flower more quickly from the 12/12 flip too)

So what you're saying is 7 is a decent number? My grow started off rough. didn't have adequate lighting and nutrients for the first month. But they are now growing faster than I've seen them grow during the last two months. Just put them into flowering today.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

So what you're saying is 7 is a decent number? My grow started off rough. didn't have adequate lighting and nutrients for the first month. But they are now growing faster than I've seen them grow during the last two months. Just put them into flowering today.

technically im saying it doesnt matter or mean much, and will be different with different plants, and different grow methods both lol.

I just talk too much in text. A lot of it is largely me just kinda spinning around in circles too lol.

it's like a strong stem rub smell. It's nice to have, but it actually doesnt mean much at all, and the more different plants you grow the more obvious that becomes. Still a nice thing to have on a plant and point out though lol. Sometimes a stanky stem rub is on a super stanky dank plant. Sometimes a stanky dank plant has zero veg stem rub. And sometimes a plant that has incredible stem stank makes pretty shit flowers compared to one right next to it who's veg stems smelled like broccoli lol.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Update part 1. Outdoor

Man bugs hit these autos hard.

Alien rider autos

Strawberry Gorilla Auto

Photos

Queen B #1

Queen B #2

Banjo Blaster #1 topped early. Prob gonna try and keep her low down, then side trellis her where she's at.

Banjo Blaster #2

The suspected female PB4 x Haymeadow. I'm leaving her in the cup bit longer to try and slow her down a bit. She's def gonna get biggee then I need her to where she's going if not lol. She's still the biggest outdoor girl and been root bound for like a week. I'm prob gonna bring this earwig-damage stunted Queen B inside.

The Oaxaca is officially taller then I am already. I'll get pics of the rains clear up. They're a ways off into the boonie lands

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Part 2. Indoor.

PB3

Banjo x haymeadow

Thai Dom haymeadow

Psychedelic Banjo. She's in the weird white balance corner furthest from the door this go lol. That yellow leaf got direct fan for like a week. It'll be fine.

This is what my plants look like after I move and fuck off on em for too long, then I prune them to fit a tent to flower

Works well enough if I give em a week to recover before flowering. They usually have pretty wimp stems tho even with added silica though it'll be aight, just look funky. Not a keeper pheno anyway in flowering it to free up space.

 

[captainkong]

Update part 1. Outdoor

Man bugs hit these autos hard.

Alien rider autos
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Strawberry Gorilla Auto
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Photos

Queen B #1
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Queen B #2
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Banjo Blaster #1 topped early. Prob gonna try and keep her low down, then side trellis her where she's at.
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Banjo Blaster #2
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The suspected female PB4 x Haymeadow. I'm leaving her in the cup bit longer to try and slow her down a bit. She's def gonna get biggee then I need her to where she's going if not lol. She's still the biggest outdoor girl and been root bound for like a week. I'm prob gonna bring this earwig-damage stunted Queen B inside.
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The Oaxaca is officially taller then I am already. I'll get pics of the rains clear up. They're a ways off into the boonie lands

NIce looking plants. What kind of yield can you expect from an auto flowering plant outdoors?

 

[captainkong]

Part 2. Indoor.

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PB3
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Banjo x haymeadow
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Thai Dom haymeadow
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Psychedelic Banjo. She's in the weird white balance corner furthest from the door this go lol. That yellow leaf got direct fan for like a week. It'll be fine.
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This is what my plants look like after I move and fuck off on em for too long, then I prune them to fit a tent to flower
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Works well enough if I give em a week to recover before flowering. They usually have pretty wimp stems tho even with added silica though it'll be aight, just look funky. Not a keeper pheno anyway in flowering it to free up space.

How long did you veg them? They are huge I'm too scared to defoliate that much

 

[Bilber]

Hey Thato.....

Definitely appreciate the information you spit out!! Lotta shit to learn in this lil hobby we have!!!!!

You mentioned clones flowering faster than from seed.....hands down.....153% correct!!!! Yeah, I love sativa, but I'll a indy early to get my fix.......

But.......

There can be only one..........and it's not a flower.......and I was gonna post it when the shit was hitting the fan a couple pages ago........ but I thought, too soon.......