The high cost of Seeds !!!!!!!!!!???????????

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They are blaming rec weed but what else has changed since regulation? That’s right an increase in fems. Everybody and their mother is a fem breeder now especially runtz fem breeders..fems are less work but at what cost?😁
Haha, wtf, my Own boobs can’t wait to fondle myself, lmao
 
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They are blaming rec weed but what else has changed since regulation? That’s right an increase in fems. Everybody and their mother is a fem breeder now especially runtz fem breeders..fems are less work but at what cost?😁
What do you mean "else hasn't changed" wtf? 😳

How about potency for one; how about the amounts of exogenous synthetic auxins are indole-3-butyric acid (IAA), indole-butric acid (IBA), beta naphtoxy acetic acid (NOA), 1-naphthaleneacetic acid (NAA), (2,4-dichlorophenoxy)propionic acid (2,4-d).... The list goes on... How about the multitudes of auxins, cytokinins, ethylene, abscisic acid and gibberellins. being dumped in cannabis.... ie. actual hormones.

What exactly about "female" make you suppose it makes people grow boobs... I'm just wondering if it's supposition; of an actual working theory. Sure anything's possible; I suppose; but for me to see a way forward I've got to see some form of basic logic to it. cause>outcome; and a little something to support it.

Do we grow boobs from eating female chicken eggs? 😁 Or from the crap chemicals they feed the chickens...
The little square there shows you won’t get the same plant, selfing the cut, brings out different combinations bro, just won’t happen no matter what. I don’t see anything you posted that says otherwise, other then what you think.

homozygous does not mean identical, it’s a population of stable like plants, each a individual.

“But given proper starting materials great things are truly possible with a little patience; sound technique and following solid protocols.”

line me out bro, what solid protocols, tech, and starting materials, are going to change how a plant combines. Show me some data since the beginning of man we’re two MJ plants are genetically identical.

I been outta touch for sometime, maybe somethin new I haven’t seen
If you actually read what I stated; I said monozygotic are identical. I'm not trying to turn this into a contest; or convince anyone of anything. Take it or leave it; it really does matter very little one way or the other. I'm sharing my thought's on this subject; nothing more.

Trying to keep it entertaining but friendly. 😁 I honestly could give a flying fuck if I'm right one way or another; because that how learning occurs; though dialogue. At least some learning does anyhow.

I've got a college background in biology; for what it's worth. I studied genetics for weeks; months on end; professionally. I always made passing grades. I've got very little to 'prove here" to anyone. It's opinion, nothing more.
 
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What do you mean "else hasn't changed" wtf? 😳

How about potency for one; how about the amounts of exogenous synthetic auxins are indole-3-butyric acid (IAA), indole-butric acid (IBA), beta naphtoxy acetic acid (NOA), 1-naphthaleneacetic acid (NAA), (2,4-dichlorophenoxy)propionic acid (2,4-d).... The list goes on... How about the multitudes of auxins, cytokinins, ethylene, abscisic acid and gibberellins. being dumped in cannabis....

What exactly about "female" make you suppose it makes people grow boobs... I'm just wondering if it's supposition; of an actual working theory. Sure anything's possible; I suppose; but for me to see a way forward I've got to see some form of basic logic to it. cause>outcome; and a little something to support it.


If you actually read what I stated; I said monozygotic are identical.
Back in the 60's, dad told us smoking pot would make guys grow tits.
 
Bluntsmoke

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Jack herer fast from seedsman. Like 10 bucks a seed.

Good seeds don't have to be expensive lol.. All you gotta do is grow it properly.
I just sprouted a Jack Herer from seedsman. Supposed to be auto but nothing on the bag says that. It's a freebie. What's a fast? What's the difference between it and a auto or photo?
 
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I just sprouted a Jack Herer from seedsman. Supposed to be auto but nothing on the bag says that. It's a freebie. What's a fast? What's the difference between it and a auto or photo?
Autoflower will flower no matter what light cycle you put it through a photo has to be switched from either a 18/6 or 24hr light schedule to a 12/12 light cycle
 
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Autoflower will flower no matter what light cycle you put it through a photo has to be switched from either a 18/6 or 24hr light schedule to a 12/12 light cycle
I know that but what is a fast in comparison?
 
Cashmeh

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I just sprouted a Jack Herer from seedsman. Supposed to be auto but nothing on the bag says that. It's a freebie. What's a fast? What's the difference between it and a auto or photo?
It was a freebie photo. I priced them to get more but Idk lol.. I'm growing photo herer now, not fast so I can compare. Perhaps I should give them a photo so they can update lol.. Their shit looks like ass.

The fast to me means they crossed with a faster growing plant. It wasn't actual herer.. The mix is in the link.

https://www.seedsman.com/eu_en/jack-herer-fast-feminised-seeds
 
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I know that but what is a fast in comparison?
The fast versions are fast to start flower. Meaning they exhibit auto flower characteristics (preflowers) and transition to flower almost immediately after light change. By comparison I have plants almost 2 weeks in flower that are just now beginning to show sex.

You can ALMOST accomplish the same thing as fast versions with normal plants that are kept root bound.
 
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It was a freebie photo. I priced them to get more but Idk lol.. I'm growing photo herer now, not fast so I can compare. Perhaps I should give them a photo so they can update lol.. Their shit looks like ass.

The fast to me means they crossed with a faster growing plant. It wasn't actual herer.. The mix is in the link.

https://www.seedsman.com/eu_en/jack-herer-fast-feminised-seeds
Answered my question
Some autos finish in 80 days from seed. Most of my photos take 90 days or more.
Not answered my question


I asked what is a fast
 
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The fast versions are fast to start flower. Meaning they exhibit auto flower characteristics (preflowers) and transition to flower almost immediately after light change. By comparison I have plants almost 2 weeks in flower that are just now beginning to show sex.

You can ALMOST accomplish the same thing as fast versions with normal plants that are kept root bound.
Ok ok so I did see some preflowers in my veg tent at the 2 month mark on a few og strains. I dunno about the breeders but how does this pertain to strait photos. I was wondering why there were preflowers. About 50% of my seeds end up with them. I thought it was stress and I might have hermed but no seeds... Was fire lol.. I dream of it.
 
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Some autos finish in 80 days from seed. Most of my photos take 90 days or more.
Realistically yes; when they say 70>75 days it's like the earliest possible time; all flowering times are basically "earliest" I generally add a week (or two) on many photoperiods also. Plants cycle differently under varying circumstances; diet; lighting schemes.

But I do think stuff generally gets labeled as being faster than average.
 
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Ok ok so I did see some preflowers in my veg tent at the 2 month mark on a few og strains. I dunno about the breeders but how does this pertain to strait photos. I was wondering why there were preflowers. About 50% of my seeds end up with them. I thought it was stress and I might have hermed but no seeds... Was fire lol.. I dream of it.
Pretty standard for a 2 month old plant to be at that stage.

tropical and subtropical regions can be challenging if the flowering behavior of a given cultivar is unknown, poorly understood, or not accurately selected for the photoperiod. Identifying cultivars adapted to local environmental conditions is key to optimizing hemp vegetative and flowering performance.

cannabis isn't always photoperiod in the truest sense of the meaning. Plant photosynthesis and photomorphogenesis are influenced by light wavelength, intensity, and photoperiod via plant photoreceptors that sense light and control plant growth. I believe there's a fair amount of chemical signaling going on between plants of cannabis that's moving the needle in this department.
 
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Be careful what you wish for😅
It’s like natgeo meets planet of the apes 🦍!
Yea; I think your far more likely on track here.... lets look at some of the other "effects" of cannabis....🤟 😜🤘

In human and animal models cannabis has shown strong links to reduced sperm count and concentration which may be linked to arrested spermatogenesis.Oct 1, 2019
FSH: follicle stimulating hormone
THC: Δ-9-tetrahydrocannabinol
LH: luteinizing hormone


But the real truth is; there's no solid links on any of it, unfortunately... Crumbs maybe; theories and lots of unverified Subjective data. mis-information. Guessing and opinions.
When we have a global starting point; a larger narrative develops. Were not as hyper focused on any one specific potential starting point. That's why I think tossing information around is a good way to bring it forward; shaking out some bugs so to speak; cause everyone can put there little pieces of the puzzle together; and collectively we have a better vantage point.
 
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What do you mean "else hasn't changed" wtf? 😳

How about potency for one; how about the amounts of exogenous synthetic auxins are indole-3-butyric acid (IAA), indole-butric acid (IBA), beta naphtoxy acetic acid (NOA), 1-naphthaleneacetic acid (NAA), (2,4-dichlorophenoxy)propionic acid (2,4-d).... The list goes on... How about the multitudes of auxins, cytokinins, ethylene, abscisic acid and gibberellins. being dumped in cannabis.... ie. actual hormones.

What exactly about "female" make you suppose it makes people grow boobs... I'm just wondering if it's supposition; of an actual working theory. Sure anything's possible; I suppose; but for me to see a way forward I've got to see some form of basic logic to it. cause>outcome; and a little something to support it.

Do we grow boobs from eating female chicken eggs? 😁 Or from the crap chemicals they feed the chickens...

well if we had male chickens being reversed(jenner) and we ate those eggs I think it could be possible 😆
Same goes for cannabis. We are giving these females testicles to try to repeat what we have already found or to make a quick buck.
Then we have guys like csi hum bolt who have reversed ever single known elite cut to man and is responsible for all the fake cuts going around as the originals.
 

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