Indeed TK = TK not OG, OG = TKs1. The swamp guys never called the TK OG. The OG tag come from CA. Now about the OG tag their's many versions about what it means and who brought it. The last one I got after pm'ing old school cats that are in the known, is this one:
...reason being is the "OldMan" said he'd been smoking "Kush" since '84 and it only began being called "OG Kush" after the movie SouthCentral came out. They named it after the character "O.G. Bobby Johnson". I believe the Old Man and know he's got no motive to lie...
The OldMan is a old school hollywood pot star, who knows the best of the best out there back in the days. Notice the OldMan said he was smoking Kush from 1984. It's not the first time I hear that. Some old folks told me already. But unfortunately I have no to tell if they really meaning the 1984 kush they smoked, were just like nowadays OG that appears around 1997. Anyways, This OldMan link have lead me to a OG source from around 1997, thats is not link to orgnkid or the TK swamp guys. There's also the Faceoff link from the OGKushMan crew, thats comes around 1997 in small batch, and shortly after around 1998/9 it was available in quantity and often.
This is BlueDog aka BigRicky aka OLDFAMILLYRED, and probably dozens of other boards name, post about the TK lineage, adressing Tha Docta from Archives.
Blue Dog OCT 2007
doc.....wassup homey?
i have the info on the tks lineage.........and your last comment is dead on......except its never been reffered to as og here, where it was created. ive known the guy who did the cross for ages, surfed, and even had the guy whoop my ass showing me defense technique(kinda nutty) anyways..about a month ago,,,,he decides to start talking about strains(something rare here) most want good, but have no inclination to breed. well he starts talking about the cat piss degenerating(it was big here in late 80s 90s) and how nobody here was really buying bulk of an indica called maple,,,,,something new was needed, and the hindu kush was to be the gal. he crossed this gal to a lemon thai he got from a buddy, and in return this buddy crossed it back with another kush, my guess from taste and structure would be pinetar......
my friends and i have been running tk going on 15 yrs now, and it still packs the best taste and buzz ive ever witnessed,,,,,,,,and after all this time, the degeneration is substantial but its impossible to cull, as she is a weightlifter in a wheelchair.
So lets recap now, in 1996 orgnkid crew are back from Florida with one cut they selected out of a some s1 found in buds they got in 1991 in Florida. Question is are those buds TK? Or TK related?
The cut they had got in orgnkid hands, and the kid did a lot of seeds with it. Crosses for sure, but did he already made fem beans too in 1997? Cause in that year, the man I will call B, got seeds from orgnkid. Here is his statement about this:
He had Kk bring me a 35MM film cannister full of OG Kush X's him made. I had some phenomenal tings come out of there that I would probably trade everything I have now for.
So what if the Kid is right, and out of this s1 cut that came from florida, many other OG was created from s1,s2 etc or even OGx's ?? Also kid mention that the cut, later known as ghost, was called SFV too. I remember a fellow told me he started to smoke SFV OG around 1997.
Then in 1997 Faceoff appear around OGKushman crew. Was from the drum'n'bass scene in socal.
Two other OG around 1997, one will be called Larry later and the other irene.
Is there other older REAL source to OG?
Its hard or impossible to believe today, with all the infos we have, that OG came from 1991 chemdog. I think we can fairly say today that this argument is wrong. OG ain't a 1991 chemdog s1 but rather a TK s1. I speculate too that the TK is in the chemdog, or maybe they share ancestors, but thats another story.