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Damm yall, drop your shoes and egos at the door. This a thread is for everyone to learn a little, not a pissing competition. Breeding is breeding, what works for you is what works for you doesn't mean others need to do the same. Shanti is the OG, he kicked Greenhouse seeds into the lime light with his work with Nevil and then Nevil split off taking some strains and STILL sells the femmed version(think WW). Then he moved on to working with Franco, seeing how lackin his land race collection was. Franco was a halfway decent breeder, but had access to some of the best. Shanti knows how to breed true parent genetics, thats where i picked up my "breeding" plan. Anyone ordered shantibabas seeds recently? Or Francos? He has a few interesting strains avail still. Also a lot of "breeders" sell femmed seeds because you only need to find the one pheno and squirt colloidal silver all over em, no multiple generations of stabilizing and maintaining a mother and father, no not only is it for ease but if a breeder made a badass genetic a good way to keep your hands on the gene is to only sell femmed seeds and clones. Who cares?
I agree. With the strict numbers here( 5 total) I normally only run fems.you cant tell if weed was feminized or not. And feminized plants can be well bred or shit chucked just the same as photos.
Damm yall, drop your shoes and egos at the door. This a thread is for everyone to learn a little, not a pissing competition. Breeding is breeding, what works for you is what works for you doesn't mean others need to do the same. Shanti is the OG, he kicked Greenhouse seeds into the lime light with his work with Nevil and then Nevil split off taking some strains and STILL sells the femmed version(think WW). Then he moved on to working with Franco, seeing how lackin his land race collection was. Franco was a halfway decent breeder, but had access to some of the best. Shanti knows how to breed true parent genetics, thats where i picked up my "breeding" plan. Anyone ordered shantibabas seeds recently? Or Francos? He has a few interesting strains avail still. Also a lot of "breeders" sell femmed seeds because you only need to find the one pheno and squirt colloidal silver all over em, no multiple generations of stabilizing and maintaining a mother and father, no not only is it for ease but if a breeder made a badass genetic a good way to keep your hands on the gene is to only sell femmed seeds and clones. Who cares?
I agree. With the strict numbers here( 5 total) I normally only run fems.
Fuck all these people trying to get rich selling Gods gift. It will be a great day when packs of kush seeds are the same price as tomato and peppers.In my opinion it should be the goal of every grower to learn the art of chucking some pollen and being able to provide yourself with your own selection of seeds. Keep a dad. Use silver. Doesn't matter.
99% of what's out there is utter bullshit. Anyone who's ever tried knows how easy it is to wind up with 10,000 seeds in a jar. That, with the right name and pics attached is enough to fool most because demand is at an all time high like we've never seen before.
Further legality and DNA testing, genome mapping etc will reveal most of these fancy names and hot new flavours of the month to be basically all the same 10 plants we loved so much 30 years ago, when this ball really got rolling down the hill and the Dutch seed banks blew up.
The swamp will be drained. The fakes and wannabes will be exposed. With legality comes information and education. The clouds will be lifted and the dark age of cannabis will end..
I still hear enough old dogs like me barking in protest at the new generation, drinking the cool aid and believing the hype. I have faith in the process. We just need a few more years of people growing all this bunk shit before there's enough ears in the audience.
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At the damn farmers market where it belongs, not under glass cases like a friggin jewelry shop omg yuk.Fuck all these people trying to get rich selling Gods gift. It will be a great day when packs of kush seeds are the same price as tomato and peppers.
I can understand why they cost so much on the black market. But now that seeds are totally 100% legal in the USA, there is no reason they should cost what they do now.At the damn farmers market where it belongs, not under glass cases like a friggin jewelry shop omg yuk.
It's a gray area because of the farm bill. Yes, seeds because they're below .03 thc are "legal"...sort of.I can understand why they cost so much on the black market. But now that seeds are totally 100% legal in the USA, there is no reason they should cost what they do now.
My state is medical only, but hydro stores sell seeds to anyone. Domestic seed companies that didn't used to ship now do. So I'm not sure its even grey anymore. I'm pretty sure if it were grey, the cops would have raided the stores and seed companies by now.It's a gray area because of the farm bill. Yes, seeds because they're below .03 thc are "legal"...sort of.
If you're advertising said said seeds to sprout 20% thc plants some folks might see that in a different light. It's another weird situation created by the fact that state laws and federal laws do not sync up. The friggin loophole dance every "legit" cannabis business has to navigate.
Its a plant. Can we start treating it like a plant for Pete's sake? Lol
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Well, as mentioned before...some of us in outlaw territory might not see it that wayMy state is medical only, but hydro stores sell seeds to anyone. Domestic seed companies that didn't used to ship now do. So I'm not sure its even grey anymore. I'm pretty sure if it were grey, the cops would have raided the stores and seed companies by now.
You mean your stores don't sell seeds? Or the seed companies won't ship to you?Well, as mentioned before...some of us in outlaw territory might not see it that way
Stores? In NYC? Omg point me to someYou mean your stores don't sell seeds? Or the seed companies won't ship to you?
Shipped? No problem. Do I still get nervous? Absolutely.You mean your stores don't sell seeds? Or the seed companies won't ship to you?
Damn, I figures you guys would have them all over. OKC must have dozens of grow stores and over 500 dispensaries.Stores? In NYC? Omg point me to some
In my opinion it should be the goal of every grower to learn the art of chucking some pollen and being able to provide yourself with your own selection of seeds. Keep a dad. Use silver. Doesn't matter. For some in outlaw territory it might also give some added security
99% of what's out there is utter bullshit. Anyone who's ever tried knows how easy it is to wind up with 10,000 seeds in a jar. That, with the right name and pics attached is enough to fool most because demand is at an all time high like we've never seen before.
Further legality and DNA testing, genome mapping etc will reveal most of these fancy names and hot new flavours of the month to be basically all the same 10 plants we loved so much 30 years ago, when this ball really got rolling down the hill and the Dutch seed banks blew up. Sorting it out will be complicated. Feelings are going to get hurt. Reputations will be in question.
The swamp will be drained. The fakes and wannabes will be exposed. With legality comes information and education. The clouds will be lifted and the dark age of cannabis will end.
I still hear enough old dogs like me barking in protest at the new generation, who are mostly drinking the cool aid and believing the hype. I have faith in the process. We just need a few more years of people growing all this bunk shit before there's enough ears in the audience.
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Shipped? No problem. Do I still get nervous? Absolutely.
I've never bought seeds in the mail and never will.Every. Fucking. Time.
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