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@Moe.Red I'll be using them in my current grow. Just currently I'm only using one light in that tent. I've got some clones started and will be starting some new genetics from seed before we get too deep into the winter months. Then I will have both lights on.please tag me in when you start using them.
This will be my first production UVB LED I have seen used. Just curious.
Hey Moe, have you seen these from Spider farmer and what do you think about them?.....other than price is a bit high,please tag me in when you start using them.
This will be my first production UVB LED I have seen used. Just curious.
Careful. Running tests like that can be addictive.I had the UV/IR bar set with my first Grower's Choice E720. I ran a couple of runs. I like that setup way better than any quantum board I've tried. I added another this fall when I moved to a 4 x 8 tent. What I don't have is an apples to apples comparison. I could run one E720 with and the other without ... and I probably will at some point. It probably won't be this run though. I'm already involved with a bunch of cloning. It's something to think about for the future though.
What are their specs? UVB is what drives the resin/thc production (in theory). UVA as mentioned previously helps drive other processes. It's UVB you want for resin production. Look for something that has some 310nm wave length in its spectrum.Hey Moe, have you seen these from Spider farmer and what do you think about them?.....other than price is a bit high, View attachment 1306850
Yup 30w UVA bars they are everywhere. Same basic thing as the pics I posted above.Hey Moe, have you seen these from Spider farmer and what do you think about them?.....other than price is a bit high, View attachment 1306850
okay then, that pretty well says it all. not needed waste of time and money and could be harmful if not done right.Careful. Running tests like that can be addictive.
But yeah I would need to see 3 or 4 grows doing side by sides with clones before I felt like I had a good understanding of UVB. Change only the UV between the 2 clones and all other grow parameters are equal. Then get the end results lab tested. It’s a lot of effort for home growers.
In what I have run including splitting a plant in 2 and adding UVB to just half of the same plant, blind testing done with UVB finished vs no UV finished flower the user could not differentiate via smoke it all came down to the visual differences. I’ve still got some test buds if you want to see them.
I TLC tested them for cannabinoid levels and my testing was not precise enough to see a difference in THC. CBG was higher in irradiated buds.
What I will say is that the UV irradiated buds quit growing and ended up noticeably smaller. I documented all that too on the thread I linked above. Still got all the data from that test if you want it.
So if this is telling at all - those bulbs and bars are no longer in any tent. Pulled them all, Far Red too. It was very interesting but in the end it just seemed like technology for technology sake and the buds were no better. I’m sure there is a sweet spot that can be found for the non PAR spectrum that does result in a positive with some metric. But for me it’s a 95%er tweak. Like overclocking CPUs 20 years ago. If it works nice you got free cycles. But it’s just as likely to crash the pc.
An easier thing to do in terms of tweaking plants is injecting O2 in the root zone. That has results anyone can clearly see and probably costs the same in hardware and uses less power. I mean if ya wanna tweak stuff….
Ya thanks I got that after my post,okay then, that pretty well says it all. not needed waste of time and money and could be harmful if not done right.
Shoulda just said that.okay then, that pretty well says it all. not needed waste of time and money and could be harmful if not done right.
No man, your explanations are great I just can't comprehend all the detail, it gets in eventually but then I forget something else......a result of too many years of steady consumption.....lolShoulda just said that.
I forgot I promised you a tldr on the bottom of my windy posts. I’ll do better
I see zero benefit of running UVA on that spider farmers schedule. I run mine 12 hrs a day during the entire flowering period. I do not use it in veg at all. Only benefit I have observed through my own personal experience with UVA is it shortens the flowering phase duration a bit. Maybe by as much as 7 - 10 days.Hey Moe, have you seen these from Spider farmer and what do you think about them?.....other than price is a bit high, View attachment 1306850
Where can I get a supplemental UV
For years people have had the lack of self respect to utter the retardation, "flat earth". Lol my first Q is, "ever been on a commercial airliner?"For years I heard people talking about the UV from reptile bulbs increasing potency. Which UV is it and is it worth looking into as I noticed a lot of the LED light suppliers include UV in their panels? Is the panel UV provided the correct UV and is it enough to have the desired effect or is it not being properly implemented and only used to market the light?
Were you joking about molasses I've always overlooked it. But since I'm running multiple clones this grow I might as well experiment.2Bad,
If you attempt the UV lighting don't hesitate to mail me if you have questions. I think you will be rewarded.
Zill.
Ty Zill @Moe.Red what do you think about sugars2Bad!!,
Molasses, Yes. We did a similar study in a soil microbiology class. It will dramatically increase all soil microbial populations, yes. But after a very short period, as levels of carbohydrate begins to wane, the populations crash and return to normal.
I don't see the value in applying sugar, molasses to potting soil or garden soil. It does nothing beneficial for the plant. But it costs almost nothing. If it makes others feel good go ahead and use it.
Zill.
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