This Be How Dirbag Do...

[Aqua Man]

Wow , that' over 2 months of growth for me in my peat mix. I'd love to get into the dwc method but I'm going to have to wait until I find a set up at an estate sale or elsewhere. I've seen side by side DWC vs Promix and DWC blows it away.

If you have the time and space. It's a good amount of work. Those plants were drinking 6 gal a day. Then you need to replace the water, on top of that balance the nutrient ratios, need massive dehumidification etc. It was about 30min ever single day between testing and adjustment and that with full environmental controllers.

Is the time and investment worth the gain. Shit can go wrong very fast in pure hydro.

 

[jaguarlax]

hey @Dirtbag sorry to beat a dead horse, but did you run enzymes in veg?

 

[Dirtbag]

Yeah DWC is in a world of it's own. I've seen others grow with it and the headaches it can bring though. I just know it's not for me lol..

Coco or rockwool is a great middle ground. That said, I'd be kidding if I said it was easy to get into my room now lol. Though the trellis is split down the middle and fastened back together with the blue cords you see. That way I can undo it, move the middle benches to the side and go up the middle. Had to do that last night.

 

[Dirtbag]

hey @Dirtbag sorry to beat a dead horse, but did you run enzymes in veg?

I started running enzymes after about 2-3 weeks in veg. First time was a half dose, Then 3/4, then a full dose. The company recommends you build up to a full dose otherwise you risk releasing too many nutrients into the solution.

 

[Aqua Man]

Yeah DWC is in a world of it's own. I've seen others grow with it and the headaches it can bring though. I just know it's not for me lol..

Coco or rockwool is a great middle ground. That said, I'd be kidding if I said it was easy to get into my room now lol. Though the trellis is split down the middle and fastened back together with the blue cords you see. That way I can undo it, move the middle benches to the side and go up the middle. Had to do that last night.

Haha yeah it's pretty packed also. Honestly the more I watch this thread, like you I'm kinda feeling coco is the place for me also.

 

[Dirtbag]

Highly recommend it Aqua. A simple irrigation system is really all it needs.

I seriously dont think I'll use anything else. It gives me the ease of container gardening and hydro growth rates. What's not to like.

 

[Aqua Man]

Highly recommend it Aqua. A simple irrigation system is really all it needs.

I seriously dont think I'll use anything else. It gives me the ease of container gardening and hydro growth rates. What's not to like.

That's what I'm saying bro... Bang for buck and time. Seems to be on point.

 

[Dirtbag]

Something else I'll say, which I was told could be from the enzymes I'm using but I think also just the nature of coco,.. These plants are just BLOWING through water and nutrients.
My 5 gallon pots of promix used about 20 gallons every 4 days. Rockwool was about every 3 days. This round sucks back 20 gallons every 2 days with minimal runoff. Its wild.

 

[Aqua Man]

Something else I'll say, which I was told could be from the enzymes I'm using but I think also just the nature of coco,.. These plants are just BLOWING through water and nutrients.
My 5 gallon pots of promix used about 20 gallons every 4 days. Rockwool was about every 3 days. This round sucks back 20 gallons every 2 days with minimal runoff. Its wild.

I could always kinda measure growth rates and changes by water consumption. You could instantly tell when the growth rates were picking up by that or any issue if they cut back on uptake simply by measuring the water uptake per day. Great for early indication of issues or nutrient imbalance... In coco also for early lockout signs I would imagine.

 

[newh]

Lol, just the bacillis subspecies in Great White are both nutrient cyclers and root protectants that quickly multiply in an aerated nutrient mix at the right temp. All you really need to breed bacteria is a mix of micronutrients, humic acids, a carbon source; in this case glycerin and DME, and nitrate. keep it constantly aerated and it should double about every 2 hrs as long as you keep adding more nutrient to it. It's essentially the same way I multiply yeast with a few different tweaks. And the trichoderma should feed off of the kelp extract, though its difficult to breed both bacteria and fungi at the same time, in this case most likely the rhizobacteria completely took over, and I'm ok with that.

I think I showed you this before.It sounds like just what your trying to achieve.I use this at least twice a week in my coco dtw. https://www.realgrowers.com/?gclid=...eY93VyVC-iE_gCRLUO7nKXRIj55SabXAaApp2EALw_wcB

 

[Dirtbag]

I could always kinda measure growth rates and changes by water consumption. You could instantly tell when the growth rates were picking up by that or any issue if they cut back on uptake simply by measuring the water uptake per day. Great for early indication of issues or nutrient imbalance... In coco also for early lockout signs I would imagine.

Again where the enzymes are interesting. I was told that because they keep the roots so clean and healthy they will uptake more water and nutes. Sadly I didnt run a round in coco before using enzymes to know the difference, but they're cheap enough I'll keep using them anyway. The spike in runoff ec is enough to show me that it's doing something. And I always notice a massive growth surge a few days after adding them. There is something to it...

 

[Dirtbag]

I think I showed you this before.It sounds like just what your trying to achieve.I use this at least twice a week in my coco dtw. https://www.realgrowers.com/?gclid=...eY93VyVC-iE_gCRLUO7nKXRIj55SabXAaApp2EALw_wcB

Yeah that looks like really good stuff. Wish I could get it... lol. So much we cant get in Canada its shameful.

 

[newh]

Yeah that looks like really good stuff. Wish I could get it... lol. So much we cant get in Canada its shameful.

I see... I didnt realize the restrictions up there.It looks funner growing your own herd lol

 

[Dirtbag]

I think I showed you this before.It sounds like just what your trying to achieve.I use this at least twice a week in my coco dtw. https://www.realgrowers.com/?gclid=...eY93VyVC-iE_gCRLUO7nKXRIj55SabXAaApp2EALw_wcB

No, turns out I can get it. $195 for 8 oz.... ouch. Amazon.ca sucks.

 

[Dirtbag]

I have a 2 oz package of RAW bloom microbes on the way I ordered last week. I'll se how it does, Its meant to have a lot of the same stuff in it. And I'm going to continue activating and doubling in a stir starter when I use it just to stretch it out a bit.

 

[newh]

thats just silly.

 

[newh]

I have a 2 oz package of RAW bloom microbes on the way I ordered last week. I'll se how it does, Its meant to have a lot of the same stuff in it. And I'm going to continue activating and doubling in a stir starter when I use it just to stretch it out a bit.

Ive seen the RAW stuff too.I might try it myself someday.I like that theres a veg and bloom formula

 

[Dirtbag]

Ive seen the RAW stuff too.I might try it myself someday.I like that theres a veg and bloom formula

Price was right. $22 for 2 oz delivered. That's about 1/4 the price of great white even. Cell counts might be a bit lower, but whatever. I'm activating and replicating them anyway.

 

[Dirtbag]

I feel like Amazon.ca is kinda like that Mafia guy who lives down the road that can get you almost anything you cant find anywhere else, but its gonna cost 3 times as much as it should lol.

 

[newh]

Price was right. $22 for 2 oz delivered. That's about 1/4 the price of great white even. Cell counts might be a bit lower, but whatever. I'm activating and replicating them anyway.

I have used this also.Its just microbes and food for the microbes,nothing for the plants.Plus theres a preparation for it that takes a bit of time. https://www.soilbalancepro.com/