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Hello everyone,
I'm having some problems getting much of the stuff you guys are using for soil, following Alien's (and a bunch of others') recipe, and after checking what's available in the market here, I see it's impossible for me to get most of the ingredients/amendments needed.
I'd really love to get your opinions and guidance as to what products should I use to compose a kickass soil based on local variety.
I went to (supposedly) one of the biggest grow shops here, and they didn't have much. I also followed the local manufacturers and importers' websites for parallel products, and this is what i got so far, it's all translated from Hebrew so I hope I got it right:
Soil option 1: Ecogan Organic Grow Mix: They say that it's completely organic, no chemical ingredients used and that it contains: high quality peat, coco fibers, tufa and "organic fertilizers that ensure ongoing (continues) feeding". More, they say: "these ingredients provide the plant with a steady air supply directed to the plant's root system". I contacted them for a full list of ingredients and amounts, no luck yet. I did manage to get their chief agronomist's number, hope to give him a call asap. (the pictures are links to the products' pages, its mostly in Hebrew, but its there if you want, you can use google translate)
Soil option 2: Deshanit Garden Mix: They say its based on organic ingredients of the finest quality... basically the same stuff: "high quality peat, tuff, coconut fibers, aeration material, and controlled slow release fertilizers"... "Our growing media ensure high water retention, enable maximal aeration and drainage". I used this soil before and although I don't really know what's in it except what's specified, it does have good drainage, and seedlings looked healthy.
"Deshanit" also have Enriched Red Loam and another mix called "Top Grass" which is supposed to "revive grass bald spots as a result of lack of feeding elements or diseases..."
there are couple of more mixes from different local manufacturers here, but they dont say everything that's in their soil either... basically, they all give the same basic info. but one big manufacturer offers a custom mix, by demand, that looks pretty interesting...
Amendments/Fertilizers
1. Deshanit Bio Compost: "rich with N-P-K and micro elements".
2. Deshanit Redworm Humus: produced with Eisenia Fetida redworms, contains humic acids and helps the microbial activity in the media.
3. Ecogan Multigreen 20-24-9 + 1% iron: for 4 months (of controlled released fertilesers).
4. Ecogan Multigan: 25-6-18: for 4 months.
5. Ecogan Multikote 20-10-20/17-17-17 also for 4 months
6. Ecogan Planting Fertilizer: here they say that there are two types Nitrogen: "slow released" and regular N. so its: (14.5)20-24-9. good for 3-4 months.
7. Ecogan Fruit Fertilizer: here there's a slow released K so its: (17)9-9-27(13) slow released K. good for 3 months.
8. Ecogan Bloom Fertilizer: (25)20-6-18(9). good for 4 months.
9. Ecogan Irongan: N7%-Fe13%-MgO3%-S20%
10. Ecogan Plants and Flowers Fertilizer: 15-7-15(9). good for 6 months.
I also can get the basic stuff: perlite, ammonium sulfate and urea nitrate.
Any help will be greatly appreciated guys, thanks.
I'm having some problems getting much of the stuff you guys are using for soil, following Alien's (and a bunch of others') recipe, and after checking what's available in the market here, I see it's impossible for me to get most of the ingredients/amendments needed.
I'd really love to get your opinions and guidance as to what products should I use to compose a kickass soil based on local variety.
I went to (supposedly) one of the biggest grow shops here, and they didn't have much. I also followed the local manufacturers and importers' websites for parallel products, and this is what i got so far, it's all translated from Hebrew so I hope I got it right:
Soil option 1: Ecogan Organic Grow Mix: They say that it's completely organic, no chemical ingredients used and that it contains: high quality peat, coco fibers, tufa and "organic fertilizers that ensure ongoing (continues) feeding". More, they say: "these ingredients provide the plant with a steady air supply directed to the plant's root system". I contacted them for a full list of ingredients and amounts, no luck yet. I did manage to get their chief agronomist's number, hope to give him a call asap. (the pictures are links to the products' pages, its mostly in Hebrew, but its there if you want, you can use google translate)
Soil option 2: Deshanit Garden Mix: They say its based on organic ingredients of the finest quality... basically the same stuff: "high quality peat, tuff, coconut fibers, aeration material, and controlled slow release fertilizers"... "Our growing media ensure high water retention, enable maximal aeration and drainage". I used this soil before and although I don't really know what's in it except what's specified, it does have good drainage, and seedlings looked healthy.
"Deshanit" also have Enriched Red Loam and another mix called "Top Grass" which is supposed to "revive grass bald spots as a result of lack of feeding elements or diseases..."
there are couple of more mixes from different local manufacturers here, but they dont say everything that's in their soil either... basically, they all give the same basic info. but one big manufacturer offers a custom mix, by demand, that looks pretty interesting...
Amendments/Fertilizers
1. Deshanit Bio Compost: "rich with N-P-K and micro elements".
2. Deshanit Redworm Humus: produced with Eisenia Fetida redworms, contains humic acids and helps the microbial activity in the media.
3. Ecogan Multigreen 20-24-9 + 1% iron: for 4 months (of controlled released fertilesers).
4. Ecogan Multigan: 25-6-18: for 4 months.
5. Ecogan Multikote 20-10-20/17-17-17 also for 4 months
6. Ecogan Planting Fertilizer: here they say that there are two types Nitrogen: "slow released" and regular N. so its: (14.5)20-24-9. good for 3-4 months.
7. Ecogan Fruit Fertilizer: here there's a slow released K so its: (17)9-9-27(13) slow released K. good for 3 months.
8. Ecogan Bloom Fertilizer: (25)20-6-18(9). good for 4 months.
9. Ecogan Irongan: N7%-Fe13%-MgO3%-S20%
10. Ecogan Plants and Flowers Fertilizer: 15-7-15(9). good for 6 months.
I also can get the basic stuff: perlite, ammonium sulfate and urea nitrate.
Any help will be greatly appreciated guys, thanks.