manicgrower
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what about the genetic mumbo jumbo regarding the cloning of sheep or now they grow an ear in a petri dish stem cells...... these guys have no idea what they are doing, just like fukushima with the atom .... they have no control. or all the doctors pushing pills but nobody is curing shit. it's just more drugs so you " feel " good. modern day witch doctors ....
the S1's are one in the same. IMO
you are creating the change, not pollen between a true male and female so what else happens during that process ? what is caried over from the female ?? can the proponents show studies that nothing happens in the new genetics created. every other time " man " changes something in nature, you get unexpected results.
what about germ rates or runts ect from fem's. why is it raskal and other have had so manny issues. again not bashing him but is he not the first seed maker that started selling tons of fem's. sure you have others but im talking volume over a few years & complaints have erupted across all forums.
Exactly... you alter the "genetic expression" not the genetic makeup. It results in a hormonal balance change that is normally regulated by regulator genes, it does not alter those or other genes, it does not alter the alleles it passes on to offspring, it does not affect the population. It... oh, new post above, summed it up nicely. Spraying STS/CS does not equal GMO. Nurture vs nature.The chemical sex trait influence u suggest established a causal link btw chemical inducement and genetic expression.
Ya know if everyone didnt get banned around here we might know whos saying what lmao.
im with @manicgrower on all this nonsense, hermi's gunna herm, regardless of where they came from reg beans or fem.
but I do wonder how the gene pool will look in 20 years if everyone keeps making fem.seems like reg beans are getting more and more uncommon real fast like.
There are massive differences between animal and plant cells.
Animal cells (apart from stem cells) are specialized and can only form what is genetically encoded into them. Ie. An ear will always be an ear, a liver cell will always be a liver cell.
Plants on the other hand have undifferentiated cells at the growing tips and under the cambium layer. These cells with the right stimulus can be manipulated into becoming any part of the plant. This is what cloning and tissue culture relies on.
Example cut your finger off. Put it in a bath of amino acids etc. It doesn't grow a new person from it. Take a cutting of a plant however stimulate it with rooting hormone keep the part that you want roots to form wet and dark and hey presto new plant.
Don't pass the buck because you're wrong.
in red: a stem cell is still a stem cell....it's undifferentiated and can replicate into anything. Thus all the stem cell research going on these days. I do not think you can exclude it and then attempt to make you point valid.
in blue: And from what I have read, certain animals can regrow body parts...ie a lizard can regrow a tail if severed off. And... we have been growing body parts, organs, etc for quite some time now.
And we've been cloning animals for years. There is quite of bit of scientific literature (for what it's with) that shows that altered hormones in humans can dictate sex and even alter sexual preference.
In reference to your "new plant" comment, is it a new plant or just a transferred branch. Do you see my point? Calling it a new plant may not be absolute.
Correct me if I wrong.
In perspective, if a light leak can induce herms, just think the effect of chemical inducement that changes the hormonal ratio in the plant.
im more concerned with the lack of tested genetics being released than fems. Fems have their place in the market, untested and unworked genetics do not. Too many pollen chuckers wanting to be the next Arjan.
No agenda here buddy. Apart from true science.
The whole reason S1's are made is because they will be closest to the original parent. Limited genetic variation will occur due to recombination of recessive and dominant genes but that occurs in regs too. And with higher variation due to input from the male.
Your "genetic mutation" argument suggests that STS induced Bubba Kush seeds may give rise to a Nevils Haze. Quite comical.
You can pick and choose the replies if you want but you are still simply wrong.
I am not a big fan of Arjan at all. That's all I will say about him to avoid Arjan Disciples from getting buttsore.
The gene pool is taking a beating
Anyone that tells you that chemical inducement doesn't alter
The genetic expression is just full of crap. Its called wallet
protectionism. Tipz
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