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My two recent runs were with 750 watts LED COBs and they did much better than my 1KHPS. Flower stacking was so incredible I had a hard time figuring out when to chop. The flowers even stacked up the leaf stems and I have never seen that.LEC/CMH will make better looking buds.. but nothing can stack like a 1000 HPS
i meant stacking as in total yield.My two recent runs were with 750 watts LED COBs and they did much better than my 1KHPS. Flower stacking was so incredible I had a hard time figuring out when to chop. The flowers even stacked up the leaf stems and I have never seen that.
Also, these werent cheap LEDs like Vipaspectra but 90 CRI COBs that are running a true 65w/sq ft. @ 3500 K not blurple or pink but true 3500k.
Dee
Was about 10 percent increase with 25 percent less power cost.i meant stacking as in total yield.
i just dont think LEDs are quite there yet. they are coming along though. how was the bud structure. was it airy? the running joke in the industry is "what do you use to supplement an HPS?... another HPS!" it will be interesting to see how the tech comes along. i dont think it can penetrate the canopy efficientlyWas about 10 percent increase with 25 percent less power cost.
I want to go through more cycles and try to see the exact difference but each time I get better skill wise as a grower so without side by side runs it is hard to say.
Dee
LEC/CMH will make better looking buds.. but nothing can stack like a 1000 HPS
I recently saw comparison buds in 600 hps and 630 cmh and the buds looks similar, the 630 looked a bit more colorful and shiny (not necessarily more frosty if that makes sense) and smelled a little better but nothing major.... so if thats the case, then a 600w hps makes/produces the same trichome development as a gavita? and the trichome development in the pictures i posted is possible with a 600w hps or 630 cmh? I was thinking bud that looks like thats only possible with 1k DE but it could be as easily done with a 630 cmh in the same environment?Not an expert here but I have seen some evedence that UV stimulates some trichome production as a way the plant protects itself from too much sunlight but then there is some evidence that some LEDs like quality COB systems increase trichomes. One thing that LEDs and CMH have in common is a very high CRI in the range of 90 or more out of 100. When you see high quality COBs or CMH the first thing that stands out is the white color like midday sunlight.
One thing I do know from studying phytochemicals is terpenes are all about defense against bugs, mold, mildew and animals that want to eat the plant. since plants cant run away they use chemical warfare in the form of monoterpenes, diterpenes...etc. So, one big factor is genetics, then stress. Some people stress the plants to increase terpenes but IDK if the light has a big impact or if there is any conclusive data. I recently completed a couple of flower cycles with COB 90 CRI lights and was delighted with the results but what is really needed is several side by side runs with differentm lights with all other conditions identical.
Dee
i would almost says its closer to 80% genetic. but elite cuts are highly coveted. so if u had to ask me i would buy beans from ur favorite breeder/whoever you think has the dankest and go from there and try to find that unicorn !
nice!I just did the unicorn hunt. Sprouted some seeds and saw the unicorn, the one plant that produces 2-3X more than her sisters. Clones I took from her ultimately failed so I had to try twice more to find her. Finally did and cloned her successfully. The strain is hard to clone. Now I have 8 of her in full flower, 8 more in veg and two moms set aside. Can't wait to see the yields this time (2 weeks into flower now).
Dee
right im aware of that, so I guess my question was assuming its the same grower, environment, watts/sqf, genetics, etc can a 600w hps produce the same trichomes/quality as a gavita since one is a SE and ones a DEi would say its 70% genetics and 30% grower skill(which includes how he or she sets up the environment)
Gavitas are DE hps. hortilux eye are SE HPS. cmh are used for supplemental lighting in warehouse spaces.although they can be used for both veg and flower. personally if u asked me to grow a crop to try and win the cannabis cup( and ignore everything else like weight etc... i would probably use a LEC/CMH.
yesright im aware of that, so I guess my question was assuming its the same grower, environment, watts/sqf, genetics, etc can a 600w hps produce the same trichomes/quality as a gavita since one is a SE and ones a DE
i just dont think LEDs are quite there yet. they are coming along though. how was the bud structure. was it airy? the running joke in the industry is "what do you use to supplement an HPS?... another HPS!" it will be interesting to see how the tech comes along. i dont think it can penetrate the canopy efficiently
i just dont think LEDs are quite there yet. they are coming along though. how was the bud structure. was it airy? the running joke in the industry is "what do you use to supplement an HPS?... another HPS!" it will be interesting to see how the tech comes along. i dont think it can penetrate the canopy efficiently
how many watts was the LED PullingView attachment 788757 Really impressive to hold a bud that big, where it overhangs you hand, my recent Rapid led cob acquisition gave me that, this last run.