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Yea, think this is in a very similar vein, there's obviously multiple pathways of isolating these "switches" in hormone and precursor production.Ever hear of this?:
It tricks the plants into making more trichomes.
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Yea probably won’t be taking a weed wacker to my plantsAnother potential approach to initiate plant stress response is wounding. Seen in a paper published at the end of last month, Limited effect of environmental stress on cannabinoid profiles in high-cannabidiol hemp (Cannabis sativa L.):
Wounding: Mechanical damage can be caused by natural sources, such as hail or herbivory, or result from cultivation and mechanical weed removal. It has been suggested that wounding that mimics insect damage might increase cannabinoid levels, and that the resistance of Cannabis to insects might be substantially affected by cannabinoids (Gorelick & Bernstein, 2017). In general, wounding has the potential to cause a systemic response, inducing the systemic production of hormones such as jasmonic acid and abscisic acid (Savatin et al., 2014), which have been linked to changes in cannabinoid abundance (Mansouri et al., 2009; Salari & Mansori, 2013).
I haven't time to look closely through this paper or the ones cited talking about jasmonic acid and abscisic acid. But from a brief scan, seems like positive and negative results. The wounding treatment detailed in the paper above is interesting:
The wounding treatment was accomplished by partially damaging the lower and middle foliage with a grass and weed trimmer (Model FS70R, Stihl Inc) in such a way as to remove or wound a majority of the foliage on the outer portion of the plant below the inflorescence. The percentage of damage was not precisely quantified, but since the inner portions of each stem were not affected, the damage was approximately 40%–50% of foliage wounded below the inflorescence. The damage was implemented to remove and damage the leaves, but not to break or prune stems. The wounding treatment was applied on September 14 and repeated immediately after the week two sampling on September 29, 2019.
It sounds almost like a heavy defoliation, though some people remove more than 50%. The main difference is that it was wounded and not removed entirely. Obviously, invoking more of a stress response as opposed to full removal of the leaf. I'd be curious of other wounding treatments that have been tried.
The first paper cited in the blurb on wounding looks good. You can use Sci-Hub to bypass the paywall.
Chemical and Physical Elicitation for Enhanced Cannabinoid Production in Cannabis
Splitting or drilling the stalk was the move back when. Not sure it's legit. Old head move.Yea probably won’t be taking a weed wacker to my plantsI was more thinking a hole puncher to mimic a bite of sorts.. or scissors like dank nugs said
Blind Yard guys Rejoice! They can now weedie your plants and it will make them more potent. If there is anything left.
Interesting concept.
Yea, I've been instituting controlled defoliates, whereas, I remove a little here, a little there, picking at it throughout the flowering cycle, especially after weeks 2-4 and onward, depending on all factors. What I'm attempting to do with that is to allow those tops buds to get thick and heavy, then open up the inside, while also keeping pressure on the plant by the constant removal of leaves. The end result appears to be a trans-relocation of some of the plants buds, or increased uniformity.Another potential approach to initiate plant stress response is wounding. Seen in a paper published at the end of last month, Limited effect of environmental stress on cannabinoid profiles in high-cannabidiol hemp (Cannabis sativa L.):
Wounding: Mechanical damage can be caused by natural sources, such as hail or herbivory, or result from cultivation and mechanical weed removal. It has been suggested that wounding that mimics insect damage might increase cannabinoid levels, and that the resistance of Cannabis to insects might be substantially affected by cannabinoids (Gorelick & Bernstein, 2017). In general, wounding has the potential to cause a systemic response, inducing the systemic production of hormones such as jasmonic acid and abscisic acid (Savatin et al., 2014), which have been linked to changes in cannabinoid abundance (Mansouri et al., 2009; Salari & Mansori, 2013).
I haven't time to look closely through this paper or the ones cited talking about jasmonic acid and abscisic acid. But from a brief scan, seems like positive and negative results. The wounding treatment detailed in the paper above is interesting:
The wounding treatment was accomplished by partially damaging the lower and middle foliage with a grass and weed trimmer (Model FS70R, Stihl Inc) in such a way as to remove or wound a majority of the foliage on the outer portion of the plant below the inflorescence. The percentage of damage was not precisely quantified, but since the inner portions of each stem were not affected, the damage was approximately 40%–50% of foliage wounded below the inflorescence. The damage was implemented to remove and damage the leaves, but not to break or prune stems. The wounding treatment was applied on September 14 and repeated immediately after the week two sampling on September 29, 2019.
It sounds almost like a heavy defoliation, though some people remove more than 50%. The main difference is that it was wounded and not removed entirely. Obviously, invoking more of a stress response as opposed to full removal of the leaf. I'd be curious of other wounding treatments that have been tried.
The first paper cited in the blurb on wounding looks good. You can use Sci-Hub to bypass the paywall.
Chemical and Physical Elicitation for Enhanced Cannabinoid Production in Cannabis
I do an incredible amount of training that mimic's much of what your saying here, and I go back everyday, or every few days and actively crimp or "smash" them down again. Constantly reapplying stressing to the stalks... Look dead center of that plant, and you'll see what I'm talking about. This is the land Thai, so strechy.Splitting or drilling the stalk was the move back when. Not sure it's legit. Old head move.
I think it's more like sometimes, some of us finally do "something" different, and it creates a situation where the weed is improved, and people associate to a specific cause, or a very isolated incident, but there's generally a bigger process at play, and were simply not seeing the "bigger" picture sometimes.Now we wait for some old head to come in and tell the story about the summer his blind yard guy accidentally wacked off the lower foliage of his pot plants and they turned out being the dankest he’d ever grown.
I snap the living piss out plants. Over and over. Twisting stems until you feel that slight “snap” as well. My buds are always hard, sticky and smell strongly. I do this starting about the 4 node after topping. I top early and do it 3 times in a row. I’m snapping before the second topping has started growing out. With 8 main branches I keep snapping and shaping leaving a fairly flat round plant belly high.Another potential approach to initiate plant stress response is wounding. Seen in a paper published at the end of last month, Limited effect of environmental stress on cannabinoid profiles in high-cannabidiol hemp (Cannabis sativa L.):
Wounding: Mechanical damage can be caused by natural sources, such as hail or herbivory, or result from cultivation and mechanical weed removal. It has been suggested that wounding that mimics insect damage might increase cannabinoid levels, and that the resistance of Cannabis to insects might be substantially affected by cannabinoids (Gorelick & Bernstein, 2017). In general, wounding has the potential to cause a systemic response, inducing the systemic production of hormones such as jasmonic acid and abscisic acid (Savatin et al., 2014), which have been linked to changes in cannabinoid abundance (Mansouri et al., 2009; Salari & Mansori, 2013).
I haven't time to look closely through this paper or the ones cited talking about jasmonic acid and abscisic acid. But from a brief scan, seems like positive and negative results. The wounding treatment detailed in the paper above is interesting:
The wounding treatment was accomplished by partially damaging the lower and middle foliage with a grass and weed trimmer (Model FS70R, Stihl Inc) in such a way as to remove or wound a majority of the foliage on the outer portion of the plant below the inflorescence. The percentage of damage was not precisely quantified, but since the inner portions of each stem were not affected, the damage was approximately 40%–50% of foliage wounded below the inflorescence. The damage was implemented to remove and damage the leaves, but not to break or prune stems. The wounding treatment was applied on September 14 and repeated immediately after the week two sampling on September 29, 2019.
It sounds almost like a heavy defoliation, though some people remove more than 50%. The main difference is that it was wounded and not removed entirely. Obviously, invoking more of a stress response as opposed to full removal of the leaf. I'd be curious of other wounding treatments that have been tried.
The first paper cited in the blurb on wounding looks good. You can use Sci-Hub to bypass the paywall.
Chemical and Physical Elicitation for Enhanced Cannabinoid Production in Cannabis
Agreed, I don't top, but it's no doubt the same effect. Bending, cutting, crimping, it's all introducing stress, and making the plant mount a robust response to it. Would be interesting to further explore what's behind these particular stressing response, if it's possibly linked to sugar levels somehow. It's reasonable to assume some sugars are released into circulations as these cells are burst. Certainly enzymes, sugars, vitamins, hormones, cofactors, and other intracellular components are moved into general xylem circulation.I snap the living piss out plants. Over and over. Twisting stems until you feel that slight “snap” as well. My buds are always hard, sticky and smell strongly. I do this starting about the 4 node after topping. I top early and do it 3 times in a row. I’m snapping before the second topping has started growing out. With 8 main branches I keep snapping and shaping leaving a fairly flat round plant belly high.
You can do this through about the second of flower and then stems turn too hard to do it. Snap sideways to shape. Twist to slow elongation of the stem. To control length. They grow thick as hell with buds fitting those thick branches and stems. Don’t cut the cal mag short either.
Now that’s insect stress!Do like I do and just get ya some mites and let em do there thing-
Yeah tell that to my girl ! LolAhahah Someone reported that the mite infested buds were frostier than the non infested!!!
Nice read Frank! Any tips on Calcium Acetate? thats the one im using now to boost calcium aswell togheter with calcium nitrate
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