Trying Organics With Better Organix

Ecompost · Apr 8, 2016

Srenots said:
Ok so just watched the vid, wow, very cool... What I saw on Tube a while ago, was a guy that would go to transplant and do that exact same thing, sprinkle some in hole before transplant, since then I have been entrigued, but this vid helped so much, great info Thx ~

as a rule of thumb, i use no more than 1g of Root Better per plant :-) If you plant seeds directly, use Root Better, the microbes antagonize the seed casing and so free the root, which then gets early colonization. Your plant can begin very early modulations via the associations of fungus and the related biomes of bacteria and predatory protozoa to super boost root development from the get go via the increased rate of Auxins and other phyto hormones available. Secondary metabolites secreted by all three groups of organisms will fundamentally increase growth rates, stress resistance and certainly reduce damping off syndromes

Srenots · Apr 8, 2016

Ecompost said:
Why growing with Microbes gives us organic growers a evolutionary advantage over synthetics, until now, largely lost to the indoor grower
Bacterial Quorum Sensing as a Control Point in Rhizosphere Nitrogen Transformations

K. M. DeAngelis, M. K. Firestone, S. E. Lindow;
University of California, Berkeley, CA.

Rhizosphere bacteria play an important role in the soil N cycle and plant N nutrition through the release of extracellular enzymes. Temperate terrestrial plants are generally N-limited because most soil N is organic: chitin, proteins, lignoproteins and nucleotides. These compounds require digestion by microbial exoenzymes, likely the rate-limiting step in N mineralization. Proteobacteria in particular dominate rhizosphere bacterial communities, suggesting their importance in soil community enzyme activity. There is also evidence of specific interactions between soil bacteria and plants via quorum sensing (QS): root exudates of many plant species can disrupt bacterial QS and impact QS-controlled behaviors, like exoenzyme production. We hypothesize that (1) bacterial QS is an important control point in rhizosphere N mineralization, and that (2) density-dependent responses by specific populations are primarily responsible for much of the conversion of organic N to inorganic, mineralized N. We have examined bacterial communities in microcosms grown with Avena barbata, and our results so far are (a) Gross rates of N mineralization using 15N pool dilution were affected by addition of acyl-homoserine lactone (AHL) signals to bulk soil. (b) Chitinase and protease specific activity was significantly higher in the rhizosphere compared to bulk soil. (c) A whole-cell biosensor that responds sensitively to a broad range of AHL signals detected more QS signal in the rhizosphere compared to bulk soil. (d) Isolation of chitin- and protein- degrading bacteria from Avena rhizosphere soil reveals that 65% of isolates (347 of 533) did not survive pasteurization, 39% of those had either exo-protease or exo-chitinase activity (136 of 347), and 20 of the exoenzyme active isolates (111) produced AHL detected by the biosensor. While QS appears to play a role in rhizosphere N cycling and plant N nutrition, though the interactions are more complex than originally hypothesized. The biosensor reflects the increased cell numbers and activity observed in the rhizosphere. Our data indicate that signaling plays a major role in the soil N cycle.

Those of you wishing to read more reach out we have the full paper :)

Eco

So now what Im thinking is if Mycos are used, when I get done with harvest, what do you do with your medium, it would be reusable right?

Ecompost · Apr 8, 2016

Srenots said:
So now what Im thinking is if Mycos are used, when I get done with harvest, what do you do with your medium, it would be reusable right?

thats quite right mate. If like me you get another plant growing before you harvest the last, you can reduce further the need to replace mycos and so make 50g go an awful long way, saving money on media and time in replanting, less waste. I simply cut at base the old plant, allowing the new plant to host the VAMs maintaining its status. I always put a new plant in before i cull. I do not feed P. The mycos will degrade the lignin, cellulose and chitn etc from the old root ball, recycling this and any stored minerals therein in to plant usable enzymes and P. This material is resonant, you will get faster growth rates from this than external P.

Do not use media that has had sick plants, even if you used Mycos.

Srenots · Apr 8, 2016

Ecompost said:
thats quite right mate. If like me you get another plant growing before you harvest the last, you can reduce further the need to replace mycos and so make 50g go an awful long way, saving money on media and time in replanting, less waste. I simply cut at base the old plant, allowing the new plant to host the VAMs maintaining its status. I always put a new plant in before i cull. I do not feed P. The mycos will degrade the lignin, cellulose and chitn etc from the old root ball, recycling this and any stored minerals therein in to plant usable enzymes and P. This material is resonant, you will get faster growth rates from this than external P.

Do not use media that has had sick plants, even if you used Mycos.

Hm, so bfore harvesting a plant, plant another plant in that same pot? then how long before the original plant can be harvested?

Srenots · Apr 8, 2016

Ecompost said:
thats quite right mate. If like me you get another plant growing before you harvest the last, you can reduce further the need to replace mycos and so make 50g go an awful long way, saving money on media and time in replanting, less waste. I simply cut at base the old plant, allowing the new plant to host the VAMs maintaining its status. I always put a new plant in before i cull. I do not feed P. The mycos will degrade the lignin, cellulose and chitn etc from the old root ball, recycling this and any stored minerals therein in to plant usable enzymes and P. This material is resonant, you will get faster growth rates from this than external P.

Do not use media that has had sick plants, even if you used Mycos.

Do you have to use Paypal to buy Better Root, or can I use my debit card?

Ecompost · Apr 8, 2016

Srenots said:
Hm, so bfore harvesting a plant, plant another plant in that same pot? then how long before the original plant can be harvested?

soon as its ready, as with anything in life buddy timing is everything, for this practice is the only answer

Srenots · Apr 8, 2016

Well sht, Im trying to checkout and it says you will be redirected for payment and is just not doing anything... Website must be messed up,

Ecompost · Apr 8, 2016

Srenots said:
Do you have to use Paypal to buy Better Root, or can I use my debit card?

no i am sure you can use a debit, or make a transfer using transferwise bro, this will save you shit loads on gateway fees, direct bank style without the direct bank headaches
most people are now doing this due to savings on transfers and exchange.

Ecompost · Apr 8, 2016

Srenots said:
Well sht, Im trying to checkout and it says you will be redirected for payment and is just not doing anything... Website must be messed up,

will get Alan to resolve this asap email what you want to andy@betterorganix.com I will sort it out this end if you like?

Ecompost · Apr 8, 2016

Srenots said:
Well sht, Im trying to checkout and it says you will be redirected for payment and is just not doing anything... Website must be messed up,

weird it worked for me bro I just tried it

Srenots · Apr 8, 2016

Ecompost said:
weird it worked for me bro I just tried it

IDK, I put in card info and it started to work and just stayed like that, I tried it 5 or 6 times and same thing, idk

Moto · Apr 8, 2016

Srenots said:
IDK, I put in card info and it started to work and just stayed like that, I tried it 5 or 6 times and same thing, idk

Shoot andy@betterorganix.com with what you want.. The site is in process of upgrading I know.. They will invoice and help you out with ease =).. My first order I did it this way before the site was up.. :D

Srenots · Apr 8, 2016

Moto said:
Shoot andy@betterorganix.com with what you want.. The site is in process of upgrading I know.. They will invoice and help you out with ease =).. My first order I did it this way before the site was up.. :D

Ya I did already eco told me andys email, I ordered the Root Better, but now Im trying to get him to add the Nano Breathe, no biggie if he missed the Nano message...Thx

Moto · Apr 8, 2016

Srenots said:
Ya I did already eco told me andys email, I ordered the Root Better, but now Im trying to get him to add the Nano Breathe, no biggie if he missed the Nano message...Thx

I am sure they will be able to add it with no issues.. Andy or Alan will get you lined out before it ships or make it right.. Make sure to post your results with Nano Breathe after you start your applications and your Root Better Results..

I will be posting some root porn pictures maybe tonight of only Root Better no other additives and you will be pleased.. :D

Quick Note--- Remember Nano Breathe is a great source for calcium and magnesium so if you are going to use it with synthetics I would recommend laying off the cal-mag when applying.. It will show you on the product label also..

Cheers

Srenots · Apr 8, 2016

Moto said:
I am sure they will be able to add it with no issues.. Andy or Alan will get you lined out before it ships or make it right.. Make sure to post your results with Nano Breathe after you start your applications and your Root Better Results..

I will be posting some root porn pictures maybe tonight of only Root Better no other additives and you will be pleased.. :D

Quick Note--- Remember Nano Breathe is a great source for calcium and magnesium so if you are going to use it with synthetics I would recommend laying off the cal-mag when applying.. It will show you on the product label also..

Cheers

cool...

box269 · Apr 8, 2016

What up moto. Been busy. Im definately interested in the BOX products. I was wanting to wait until i was out of my current nutes, but dont think i can wait much longer lol. Probably gonna get the whole line up and see whats up. Only hear good things from you guys. Havent taken many pics lately but will try to take some tonight. I always have issues uploading pics from my phone tho. Works with my tablet.

Weedseed420 · Apr 8, 2016

great thread brother im subbed ill be on this because in the nxt month ill be going to these nutes an need to see what ill be needing,,,thanks for all the info,,,

Ecompost · Apr 9, 2016

Srenots said:
IDK, I put in card info and it started to work and just stayed like that, I tried it 5 or 6 times and same thing, idk

all sorted mate and breathe added, sorry for the hassle, issues with Checkout2 on the Shopify side, never the less, not something you guys should be exposed too imo. I am correcting this as Moto has intimated :) The site today...yes...erm... I just lit a total rocket up the arse of the person we pay to be responsible for this. I have explained how we expect an ethos of ownership here at BOX.
I have stressed that I can be a boss and so set a non negotiable daily list of tasks that I will then measure and record in a pure statistical fashion, using these inhumane data sets and arbitrary targets to determine the viability of keeping said person around, or that the person can be their own boss and paint their own future with us, but that this requires 100% attention to details, and in such conditions, there will be no one person with whom to attribute failure but to the self.
I can only hope the seriousness masked in such a proposition is deciphered, but I dont control how people respond to concepts of ownership and we all know world leaders have set a tone of cheat or be cheated, so who knows.
Of course the big problem for the person is that now I have my mind on them, and my mind is a deep and curious vessel, capable of pure creation, but equally capable of utter and total destruction. :)

Ecompost · Apr 9, 2016

Srenots said:
Ya I did already eco told me andys email, I ordered the Root Better, but now Im trying to get him to add the Nano Breathe, no biggie if he missed the Nano message...Thx

nope i got you brother, sorry site problems took me away from being my usual attentive self. Back in the game now, and your goods will be dealt with personally by Alan from this point while the outside issues are contained on the site with Checkout2. Did you see a PE101 error? no bother if not, Shopify is a paypal thing mate, much like the usual behavior of such an animal, they drag heals with regards open and fair markets, the otherwise open API is seemingly a not so open API with regards integration of payment gateways outside of Paypal. The roadmap is 2017, by which time we will be living in a magento world of open source and self control from such liabilities as PayPal

Ecompost · Apr 9, 2016

box269 said:
What up moto. Been busy. Im definately interested in the BOX products. I was wanting to wait until i was out of my current nutes, but dont think i can wait much longer lol. Probably gonna get the whole line up and see whats up. Only hear good things from you guys. Havent taken many pics lately but will try to take some tonight. I always have issues uploading pics from my phone tho. Works with my tablet.

PM here mate before you do, I will give you a code to help out on that :-) I wont do it now, it might not work by the time you go to use it LOL. Lets do it when you're ready

Trying Organics With Better Organix

Trying Organics With Better Organix

Ecompost

Srenots

Ecompost

Srenots

Srenots

Ecompost

Srenots

Ecompost

Ecompost

Ecompost

Srenots

Moto

Srenots

Moto

Srenots

box269

Weedseed420

Well-Known Farmer

Ecompost

Ecompost

Ecompost

Privacy & Transparency

Privacy & Transparency