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"Many people might cringe at the idea of using urine to fertilize plants, but urine has been used as a cheap, effective fertilizer around the world for thousands of years. Unlike human feces, urine from healthy people is sterile and pathogen-free. A 2007 study from the Department of Environmental Sciences in Finland showed that tomato plants fertilized with human urine produced nearly four times as much fruit
Read more: The Effects of Urine on Tomato Plants | Garden Guides http://www.gardenguides.com/96898-effects-urine-tomato-plants.html#ixzz21pT0FfuR
What's special about rabbit run-off is that it's been being fed alfalfa, and so it goes for any herbivore whose effluent we'll re-use for fertilization--what they eat affects to a large degree how well, or what effects it will have for us when we use it as soil food. As you noted and practiced, composting (the repeat processes of immobilization and mineralization by microbes) is the key here! I believe you can make a bunny crap tea, but would have to go VERY low on the ratios.Just my 2¢ (worth a lot less I'm sure) Some years ago I raised checkered giant rabbits in my garage as a hobby and sold the meat to a local Belgian butcher shop. Rabbits shit a ton. And the main ingredient in rabbit pellets/food is alfalpha I had a rain gutter sytem set up to collect it as the floors of the cages were 1/4" hardware cloth allowing the turds/urine to fall through. I composted the manuer and had the best looking flower beds on the block. The pile of composted turds in the late spring when I turned it over had TONS of night crawlers in it. Any fresh water fishermen (or Belgians for that matter) out there? Commercial night crawler breeders use rabbit poop to grow them.....and those "castings" you see in the store were once alphalpha then rabbit shit then worm poop........ahhhhhh the circle of life!!
Not if it's only peed on once. When it's a problem is when you have undiluted urine applied repeatedly to the same area. It burns, just like the blue stuff. Your liver has taken care of any downstream issues the booze may present. What's a problem are xeno-hormones and the like--what are you eating, not just drinking?you ever see a dog piss on a plant? it fucks it up...and dogs only drink water, i drink booze..i cant imagine thats good for plants.
not even read this post im just gonna say one thing you piss that stuff out for a reason because its TOXIC to your body so fuck putting it on my girls thats kinda filthy anyway we have a name for that its called watersports haha :)
You sound like a small scale closet grower and a child."a sewer rat might taste like pumpkin pie, but i wouldnt know cause i aint eating the motherfucker"
seriously, if it did or didnt work, YUCK! i'd be pissed, literally.
it does work, but seriously with the prices of nutes nowadays thats soooo gross and dumb. if dookies raised PK would you be shittin in your res?
Is this all you can offer the thread? Is it safe to assume that you have absolutely zero practical experience with this subject, let alone a grasp of plant nutrition at a level only slightly above NPK paradigms?lol EXACTLY. your urine is everything you havent used passing through you. yes, there may be some beneficials, but not nearly enough to make it beneficial. get some grow big. lolololol
Liberano, if you're using biological (read: organic, chem salts kill the biology) methods you don't *need* to concern yourself with pH adjustment. If you're growing in coir, that pH is pretty darn near spot on, too. What cannot be ignored is that what's provided in fresh urine is BIO-AVAILABLE nutrients, usually in the proper ratios for plants so as to not cause imbalances, deficiencies, toxicities, etc. Allowing the soil biology to work in concert with the rhizosphere practically guarantees success.Just to take a slightly different course (that's how I roll it seems according to my daughters) my urine is pH 5.7 so in a pinch I have built in pH down. I also take iron suppliments with a generous dose of vitamin C at the same time, and get B12 shots and Ferreheme twice ayear for anemia...but for iron I just have old steel nails in every pot......and for the record I'd eat a pumpkin pie flavored sewer rat!!! A little saffron rice and broccoli and hollandaise on the side and new Gamay Beaujolais!!! Bon appetit as they say in in Kay Beck, eh!!!
Excellent! I'm assuming that you provide homes for beneficial microbes in this system, which would allow the beneficials to act.so RB I was going to try it with one of my hydro projects. I'm non skeert. I think I could make this work well. Cap's bennies in my buckets would convert the urea nitrogen to elemental N and the other elements could be adjusted with diet. I eat meat once a week and most of the food I eat is organic so my piss would be low in all unusual compounds but one. I think this thread was a long time coming. Thanks Onespark.
You sound like a small scale closet grower and a child.
you guys are talking like this is humanity accesion to a higher cause its a bit of piss personally if you want nice tasting buds dont be a tight arse and piss in ya bucket go buy some good quality nutes :)
Mr mccall your absolute ignorance on this subject is astounding.......
We all appreciate a lively debate here at the Farm, but I suggest in the future you learn to reply to all members here respectfully........
The next post of yours I have to edit will result in a permanent ban.......
Mr mccall
I didn't have a problem with your position regarding urine as a nutrient source
My problem was with your sexist derogatory comments.....most of which were directed at a longstanding member
Flaming other members is not tolerated here at the farm
I might suggest taking the time to research/study organic soil biology,the soil food web,and organic nutrient profiles
and their relationship to nutrient uptake.
Using urine for plant food is an ancient, sustainable,organic gardening technique.......
Thank you, kolah. Believe it or not, my own tendency is to jump into something and see how it works first. THEN I'll get into the science, if I can grasp it.Seamaiden is a pretty smart cookie and although her and I sometimes may not agere on all things she always brings good information to the table..from a common sense point of view, from a trial and error point of view and from a scientific point of view.
I am not really a big fan of scientific stuff and I much prefer the "try it and see what happens" method. If it works and it is safe I don't need any million dollar studies to prove it. :) The studies are often nice to support a persons claim though.
My past posts and comments were an attempt to set the record straight and debunk the myths that piss is bad and icky. Anyone can choose to use it, research it further or continue to live in ignorance.
For those of us who are open to finding and exploring new methods (and reducing costs) human urine is a great addition to our toolbags of "organic" growing.
I had no idea! I love Nag Champa! Then again, I love patchouli.Something else Urine is good for = Incense. In India and many countries it's been used for centuries. Anybody here like Nag Champa? There is piss in that, but it smells so good;)
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