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[Moe.Red]

I'd like to see a breeding trend towards bringing out the minor cannabinoids too, not just THC THC THC all day long.

The only way I can get minors to come out in any meaningful way in most current genetics is to stand on my head and juggle with different lighting, stress, length of flower, stuff like that. People think the minors are irrelevant because they do not get you high, but they act on the same receptors and definitely steer the buzz. Complexity is awesome even if it looks like ragweed IMO.

That's not to say I wouldn't like a little THC now and then

 

[Dirtbag]

I'd like to see a breeding trend towards bringing out the minor cannabinoids too, not just THC THC THC all day long.

The only way I can get minors to come out in any meaningful way in most current genetics is to stand on my head and juggle with different lighting, stress, length of flower, stuff like that. People think the minors are irrelevant because they do not get you high, but they act on the same receptors and definitely steer the buzz. Complexity is awesome even if it looks like ragweed IMO.

That's not to say I wouldn't like a little THC now and then

Agreed, it makes me think of the old red Lebenese hash that had really, really low THC levels but high CBD and who knows what other cannabinoids, it still got you super baked. Clearly the entourage effect on the cannabinoid system is a real thing.

 

[amp244]

In terms of breeding, this trend does at least seem to be coming back around though and I'm definitely seeing better examples of pretty weed lately. But I would really like to see breeders start focusing more on producing super loud and exotic terp profiles regardless of how photogenic it is. To me that's the most appealing aspect of Cannabis, bottom line. How good does it stink, and how good does it taste.

I hear ya. All the Punch/MAC/Tangy-terp frost-show plants just don't get me off. I had a cut of mimosa that stank like tangy-cheesy heaven and had the tangy taste, but you could smoke a ton of it and barely catch a buzz. MAC1, Blueberry Muffins, Banana/cherry/punch, pineapple upside down cake, etc....They look great. They finish quickly. You smoke a ton, you catch no buzz.

For me, I look for a balance of qualities, but I'd say my primary are smell/potency/yeild

I would put bag appeal just below those 3.

After that would be taste, ease of pruning, ease of trimming, color and consistency of concentrate, veg speed, plant structure, nug structure, how much does it stretch in early flower, stem strength, node spacing, etc.

I don't mind long flower times, generally those are associated with the type of weed I like; potent gassy heavy yeilders.

The GMO checks every single box for me, except for taste.

I've got 7 phenos of Aj Sour Diesel x GMO that all stink in a different way that I plan on taking to the f2 this summer. I'm gonna reverse my top 3, and cross them each into the entire progeny. I'll pop 10 from each cross and hope to find some super-loud, heavy yeilding, kick your ass strains!

 

[amp244]

Agreed, it makes me think of the old red Lebenese hash that had really, really low THC levels but high CBD and who knows what other cannabinoids, it still got you super baked. Clearly the entourage effect on the cannabinoid system is a real thing.

Ive noticed the entourage effect difference in edibles that are made with distillate vs edibles that are made with full spectrum oil. The full spectrum is far superior in its potency.

 

[Dirtbag]

I hear ya. All the Punch/MAC/Tangy-terp frost-show plants just don't get me off. I had a cut of mimosa that stank like tangy-cheesy heaven and had the tangy taste, but you could smoke a ton of it and barely catch a buzz. MAC1, Blueberry Muffins, Banana/cherry/punch, pineapple upside down cake, etc....They look great. They finish quickly. You smoke a ton, you catch no buzz.

For me, I look for a balance of qualities, but I'd say my primary are smell/potency/yeild

I would put bag appeal just below those 3.

After that would be taste, ease of pruning, ease of trimming, color and consistency of concentrate, veg speed, plant structure, nug structure, how much does it stretch in early flower, stem strength, node spacing, etc.

I don't mind long flower times, generally those are associated with the type of weed I like; potent gassy heavy yeilders.

The GMO checks every single box for me, except for taste.

I've got 7 phenos of Aj Sour Diesel x GMO that all stink in a different way that I plan on taking to the f2 this summer. I'm gonna reverse my top 3, and cross them each into the entire progeny. I'll pop 10 from each cross and hope to find some super-loud, heavy yeilding, kick your ass strains!

Feel the same. I had the opportunity to smoke some MAC1 recently and after all I've heard about it I expected a LOT more. It was just weed, nothing special. But looked amazing. Same with GG4 and GSC, so much hype, such pretty flowers, average smoke and effect.
I'd give my left nut to get my hands on some of the old school cuts of blueberry or Flo, shishkaberry, purple or bubba kush, Hashplant, skunk 1, UK cheese etc.. and I mean the real ones. I smoked what was allegedly UK cheese recently and it wasn't even a little cheesy. Disappointing.

 

[Dirtbag]

Ive noticed the entourage effect difference in edibles that are made with distillate vs edibles that are made with full spectrum oil. The full spectrum is far superior in its potency.

Absofuckinloutely. Dispensary edibles barely do shit to me, even the higher dose ones. And they're all made with distillate. My homemade full spectrum extract edibles give you the real deal stone that I want. Night and day difference.

 

[Trustfall]

Look what brought you guys into the thread though it’s in us all.
Here’s how I scale things with the 5 elements if you will. You could do each element on a scale from 1 to 10.
1. high
2. Terpene production
3. Finish time
4. Yield
5. Eye appeal
Majority of the strains circulating have a high percentage of only 2 of the elements above. When we find something with 3 like most of the elites out there today they are special. IMO 4 of the elements very rare above the 50% mark in each element. And a E5 well that’s the finger of god!

 

[Dirtbag]

Look what brought you guys into the thread though it’s in us all.
Here’s how I scale things with the 5 elements if you will. You could do each element on a scale from 1 to 10.
1. high
2. Terpene production
3. Finish time
4. Yield
5. Eye appeal
Majority of the strains circulating have a high percentage of only 2 of the elements above. When we find something with 3 like most of the elites out there today they are special. IMO 4 of the elements very rare above the 50% mark in each element. And a E5 well that’s the finger of god!

Absolutely, I'd personally swap #1 and 2 but agree it's rare to get the whole package.

This might sound weird but with the exception of edibles I don't really feel the effects of cannabis that much anymore from years of overconsumption. What I care most about is smell and flavor.

 

[Trustfall]

Absolutely, I'd personally swap #1 and 2 but agree it's rare to get the whole package.

This might sound weird but with the exception of edibles I don't really feel the effects of cannabis that much anymore from years of overconsumption. What I care most about is smell and flavor.

What are you smoking Apple fritter all the heavy indica leaners(90%+ of “elites”) kinda just make me . Like cool bro but I need to feel like I’m wearing a hoola hoop on my head, these are my fav’s.Indica is like sex with a condom on I can’t feel shit!

 

[Trustfall]

Debut of tropicana punch, very nice chick weed no doubt. My purple punch x ibg x c99 is still sweeter with more terps but this gal is a beaut with the cookie calx going on.

 

[Trustfall]

Ogkb 2.0
The Durban poison flavor is strong with this one. Nice elevating high with good body. This usually gets smoked sometime after lunch but before dinner. The knock though is it can rot/mold pretty easily. Same thing happen when I use to grow Durban poison. When it’s faint no one really knows but it bothers my lungs so I know right away lol

 

[Trustfall]

Ogkb 2.0
The Durban poison flavor is strong with this one. Nice elevating high with good body. This usually gets smoked sometime after lunch but before dinner. The knock though is it can rot/mold pretty easily. Same thing happen when I use to grow Durban poison. When it’s faint no one really knows but it bothers my lungs so I know right away lol

This one starts turning purple the later you let it go rootbound so I know you wouldn’t really love it lol

 

[Trustfall]

The real sour or whatever you want to call it. Always tough photographing these but that calx formation is so sour. Not as loud on the terps compared to a ibl I use to have but I’m not going to judge that until it’s in the jar a few weeks.

 

[Trustfall]

Apple fritters… smell is remarkable when she’s on point, no doubt. I’m surprised no one has tried to add more sour to this with maybe a karma genetics sound plant for a boost in high.

 

[Trustfall]

The j breezy wedding cake, Less leaf frost but maybe a little headier looking calx then the okie doke?

 

[Trustfall]

@budgoodmen ‘s gelato 25 x dosido
Don’t know what to say really so I’ll let her do the talking lol.

 

[Trustfall]

Ghost og on steroids

 

[Trustfall]

Ok this is it for the day. Gmo x rootbeer I like this plant, not the prettiest but she ranks. A whole room of this and you would probably be

 

[Anthem]

Trusfall here is some OPP. All chucked out

 

[Anthem]

Trusfall here is some OPP. All chucked out

All Chicked out