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[WalterWhiteFire]

No foliar. However I'm getting ready to use epsom salts in my rez to replace the calmag. How would I mix the epsoms for a foliar?

How much are those stretching? -SE

Epsoms are only mg and will not replace a calmag product. I mix 1 tsp a gallon for foliar 2 tsp if def is bad. in the rez in late flowering, the sulfurs increase terpins and flavors and stuff.

 

[tattoojim]

magnisium sulfate :D..is that the stuff? i would have to go look what the bag says
edit.. horticultre grade stuff

 

[Steel Erection]

Epsoms are only mg and will not replace a calmag product. I mix 1 tsp a gallon for foliar 2 tsp if def is bad. in the rez in late flowering, the sulfurs increase terpins and flavors and stuff.

The nutes I'm using are supposed to be a little low in Mag. But fine in cal. I think I've been jammin the cal-mag and locking out the mag with too much cal. LOL... Did ya get that? I read 1/2 tsp for light feeders, 1 tsp for heavy. Gonna try the 1/2 first. The hydro store had no epsom salt. Should I just use the drug store? -SE

 

[tattoojim]

made me walk out to the garage

The nutes I'm using are supposed to be a little low in Mag. But fine in cal. I think I've been jammin the cal-mag and locking out the mag with too much cal. LOL... Did ya get that? I read 1/2 tsp for light feeders, 1 tsp for heavy. Gonna try the 1/2 first. The hydro store had no epsom salt. Should I just use the drug store? -SE

 

[tattoojim]

 

[Steel Erection]

made me walk out to the garage

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LMFAO. I know they make it. Friggin douche at the hydro store......-SE

 

[tattoojim]

LMFAO. I know they make it. Friggin douche at the hydro store......-SE

straight up garden shop bro..non mmj :)..greenhouse type ..lol flowers and maters :D

 

[tattoojim]

7$ = 4 lbs

 

[WalterWhiteFire]

The nutes I'm using are supposed to be a little low in Mag. But fine in cal. I think I've been jammin the cal-mag and locking out the mag with too much cal. LOL... Did ya get that? I read 1/2 tsp for light feeders, 1 tsp for heavy. Gonna try the 1/2 first. The hydro store had no epsom salt. Should I just use the drug store? -SE

I'm not sure if cal and mg are related in that way. If anything you should see a Mg toxicity not def. If you are using a salt based calmag product make sure you add this to your rez first before ANYTHING. You can get epsoms anywhere just make sure there isn't a fragrance added to the stuff intended as bath salts.

 

[caveman4.20]

Whats too high for ppm on foliar and cant that same sign be a P problem also maybe just throwing that out there?

 

[caveman4.20]

ive heard cal mag coincide you need more mag than cal but need both to work but every plant is different though so i doubt there is an exact universal formula...

 

[WalterWhiteFire]

Whats too high for ppm on foliar and cant that same sign be a P problem also maybe just throwing that out there?

I never check my foliar apps. For ppms or ph. Just follow the labels.

 

[caveman4.20]

got it...thanks wwf and the wifi room looks like its coming along as you planned how many prospects you strongly considering?

 

[DowNwithDirT]

ive heard cal mag coincide you need more mag than cal but need both to work but every plant is different though so i doubt there is an exact universal formula...

You have that backwards. You want 3-5x more calcium than mag, depending on medium more than plant

 

[swisscheese]

Everything looks great I wouldn't change anything a little deficiency here and there when you are running 30 plus phenotypes is the norm for most people.

 

[Steel Erection]

WWF lets take a peek...-SE

 

[caveman4.20]

You have that backwards. You want 3-5x more calcium than mag, depending on medium more than plant

Do you know if that coco releases that cal mag back into the media or what happens to it that the roots cant get it cuz coco is the only media that really does that to me i mean soil less media that attempts to behave like soil that is..

 

[DowNwithDirT]

Do you know if that coco releases that cal mag back into the media or what happens to it that the roots cant get it cuz coco is the only media that really does that to me i mean soil less media that attempts to behave like soil that is..

Ya its funny people say that coco doesn't need to be charged and also seem to think its kosh to just not use any calmag supplement.

I have done pretty extensive testing and it all comes down to CEC and cation base saturation ration's. Still learning, but calcium is the limiting factor, and you want anywhere from 60-80% calcium base saturation.

Not saying you can't grow in coco with just coco nute's but there is something to ammending coco prior to x planting or using additional calcium supplementation with preferably a high cal level.

 

[caveman4.20]

Cool have you ran into calcium carbonate im about to experiment with it in what looks like my last coco run but ill use it as an ammendment...

 

[xX Kid Twist Xx]

i have switched from calcium nitrate (pbp cal-mag +) to calcium carbonate GH cal-mag this dosent register on the ppm meter. i dont get any burnt leaf tips since the change, health wise plants seem about the same. it may be me but i think they smell better too, could be the molasses in the cal-mag?