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Bud density isn't a factor in the madbud study. Starting weight and ending weight for safe storage are all that matter here.
Bud density isn't a factor in the madbud study. Starting weight and ending weight for safe storage are all that matter here.But let me just say there are all sorts of factors at play like density of the bud, air movement, resin production etc. You ABSOLUTELY cannot just test one bud and apply that info to all...
Nope doesn't work that way.
Cutting the buds off and onto nets to dry i was closer to 80% shrinkThere is a general consensus that bud looses 80% of it's weight when drying.
Personally, I find it to be higher.
I have not weighed individual buds. I have done it by the box. Which gives a better spread of the type of buds weighed. However, they are all on twigs to enable hanging, but off the twig for the final weigh in. 90% losses. As high as 93% when no RH meter was used. I have done this many times, though not since using RH as a guide. Which has led to heavier buds I'm sure.
Some pics here show strings put back'n'forth in tents, to hang from. I did similar but my strings are back n forth within a cardboard box. Typical sized boxes, like 30x30x40 so no entire frames being hung. 250mm 'trimming sized' bits at most, and just as many bits a couple of inches long. Roughly 5oz per box dried. This is a nice method for a few reasons, one being, you can weigh it.
Fairly soon I will be chopping 'trimming sized' bits off, trimming, and laying them in mushroom trays. This will give me chance to do a more modern weigh in.
I like shroom boxes/crates. It's a bit like hanging nets, but free from your local curry takeaway. They are designed to stack shrooms without keeping any damp in. I like to half fill them, but have got near the top before. Which is fine, as a day later it's half the size. I just stick um in the then empty veg tent, with a circulatory fan and extract set with an RH controller.
Methods like this allow bulk weighing, to assess what is going on. If that's what you want to do.
I will suck a lot of water out early on, with low RH, but not enough to dry the outer leaves. I want everything at 60% and never below, but see no gain in waiting to get there. It's days at and above 60% that count. Days at 70 don't count for any more than days at 60. It's just an extra day risking mould. So I get it down as quick as I can, without the outsides dipping below 60 from trying too hard.
I hope that's all relevant
Not exactly a mic drop, although I see your point. It's the same point I often get from engineers; long, dull, precise and accurate, yet somehow doesn't help me in the slightest. I'm just breaking your balls dude, no harm intended. I'm a biologist that gets subcontracted for in situ remediation by envro engineers, been working with you automatons for years! But yeah, despite the variables, that are largely mitigated by simply applying a generic set of parameters like "say 60% RH" and maybe some indication of temp and air flow (fan/no fan), he can gather alot of useful data. Perfect data? Negative. Perfectly usable? Indeed. As far as crowd sourcing, I just call that increasing the sample size, which inherently makes the whole thing more reliable, so why not?If you want empirical data, then gather it yourself. Don't crowd source something like this when there are far too many variables at play.
Let's dive in. Just based on geography here are my knee-jerk big variables:
- Are we coastal or high desert?
- what season are we in?
- how much harvest weight are we talking about?
- what facilities do we have for this drying process?
- are we drying indoors?
- are we drying outdoors?
- what is our end goal?
- why do we give a shit?
the last of those points being the most critical. not trying to be a dick but calling me a stoner is bullshit on its own. I grow. I don't smoke. I'm also an engineer by trade, and if I know anything about drying/curing, it's that it depends. If you want to know what the perfect time is for your situation, then figure it tf out. you can't crowd source this data. mic drop
I'll try to do that. I've got another monitor in the mail coming, and a harvest pending. Might be able to assist.Need some volunteers with gram scales to weigh a 20-30g, fresh cut bud or stem and then weight after 24 hours drying at say, 60%rH and 65-70°f.
ThanksI'll try to do that. I've got another monitor in the mail coming, and a harvest pending. Might be able to assist.
I agree brown bags are good for controlling moisture release.Too many variables it will never work. What works is hang or brown bag until you can trim using fingers only. Perfect every time. Or you could wet trim a bud, weight it wet then dry it to constant mass and calculate moisture content. From there just dry the rest to 12% and jar. First way is easier and never fails.
I think your going to find that weight loss is highly strain specific, and grow specific. It's also developmental related, and a few different factors, I suspect.I’m stunned that i haven’t seen anything about weight loss on any of the forums i use. It took a lot of guesswork out of my harvest this year but really want to see more results than my dozen plants. Especially if they’re not drying at 60/60, the 80% weight loss may still give a decent cure after a quicker or slower dry due to higher or lower temps and humidity.
I mean that's basically what 8 pages of comments are saying if you wanna save yourself some time.But let me just say there are all sorts of factors at play like density of the bud, air movement, resin production etc. You ABSOLUTELY cannot just test one bud and apply that info to all...
Nope doesn't work that way.
When i started thats what i thought, there would be a gross weight loss around 85% to pinpoint. Not the case, its that day in drying when the weight loss is below 10% that the buds are ready to cure. That’s the theory, anyway.The title of this thread is
Weight for Perfect Drying time?
I gotta think a bigger bud in a smaller jar would be higher. idkBeen at 75% rh for 12 hrs.
According to this chart, my fresh cut bud is only 15% moisture. LOLOL size matters.
In your case @Frankster maybe a fish scale and a whole tree, that’s where i would go next, thanks.I'll try to do that. I've got another monitor in the mail coming, and a harvest pending. Might be able to assist.
It is in terms of water movement and that's a huge factorBud density isn't a factor in the madbud study. Starting weight and ending weight for safe storage are all that matter here.
Yeah its a worthy idea and definitely will shed some light and good information in the end.@Aquaman, you can see what i’m working with, i wish i could test some big donkey dongs but alas, i grow pinecones and now i’m out of them.
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