Weight for Perfect Drying time?

Madbud · Oct 27, 2021

Plainfarmer420 said:
Are we arguing how to dry or how the weight is effected. I hang mine in my upstairs garage for around two to three weeks, depending on outside climate at the time. I live in north east America it’s always crappy during harvest time but you gotta control the environment they dry in or all the info you share is pointless without a baseline to go off of. I run two dehumidifiers and two oscillating fans to circulate air around a 30x40 space I also have a Mitsubishi air handler to control temp stays around 67 to 70 when I’m drying up there sorry for no punctuation was using voice to text

Thanks for joining in. We (i) am looking for weight loss relative to drying/curing, the sweet spot when jarring produces a cure but not mold or the hay smell. The discussion has gone from stem snapping to paper bags but little real data of weight loss during drying. My little bud went in the jar when weight loss got down to less than 10% in 24 hours(it was nearly 30% the first day) and seems to be curing perfectly. I have one plant left to test with.

smokedareefer · Oct 27, 2021

growsince79 said:
The way I was taught accuracy and precision. I have a weight thats exactly 4.98lbs and two scales. The first scale reads 4.91lbs- the second reads 5.0lbs. So the second scale is more accurate than the first. The first scale is more precise than the second. Which $4 humidistat do you trust when you have 3 and the all read different?

Digital and a marker

+1 +2 etc until they add up to 75%

Plainfarmer420 · Oct 27, 2021

Madbud said:
Thanks for joining in. We (i) am looking for weight loss relative to drying/curing, the sweet spot when jarring produces a cure but not mold or the hay smell. The discussion has gone from stem snapping to paper bags but little real data of weight loss during drying. My little bud went in the jar when weight loss got down to less than 10% in 24 hours(it was nearly 30% the first day) and seems to be curing perfectly. I have one plant left to test with.

OK I get what you’re asking now I mean I’ve paid attention to it but not on a level like that but it makes me wonder and it is a good question to ask I hope you get the information you need or at least a general area to go from happy growing guys or should I say happy drying

smokedareefer · Oct 27, 2021

TSD said:
Yeah I have a ton of those little square ones and sometimes they are together and read different... I just use them as an estimate, cause if it gets too high I know I need to lay it out for a bit...but it's not like that's something I couldn't figure out by touch as well.

I've never found the touch either according to the meters.

I can't feel the difference between 65% and 60.

lvstealth · Oct 27, 2021

the problem with relative humidity is that it is RELATIVE to temperature. change the temps and you change the measuring parameters.

60% at 72 degrees is not the same as 60% at 82 degrees, or actually there is a significant difference in 2 degrees change.

TSD · Oct 27, 2021

smokedareefer said:
I've never found the touch either according to the meters.

I can't feel the difference between 65% and 60.

No but I can tell if it's in the right range, too moist or over dry... the meters are just insurance for me.

Madbud · Oct 27, 2021

All more reasons to use a weight scale as the meter.

TSD · Oct 27, 2021

Madbud said:
All more reasons to use a weight scale as the meter.

I grew pounds this year, so that's just too much hassle lol.

Madbud · Oct 27, 2021

TSD said:
I grew pounds this year, so that's just too much hassle lol.

But its scalable, you only need to weigh one decent cutting to tell when the whole plants ready.

TSD · Oct 27, 2021

Madbud said:
But its scalable, you only need to weigh one decent cutting to tell when the whole plants ready.

Not really... the tiny buds on the bottom are gonna dry way before big ass colas on top... especially if you're hanging entire plants, because gravity. But you do you boo.

Madbud · Oct 27, 2021

TSD said:
Not really... the tiny buds on the bottom are gonna dry way before big ass colas on top... especially if you're hanging entire plants, because gravity. But you do you boo.

How much of your pounds was popcorn?

tobh · Oct 27, 2021

Madbud said:
Stay in the box engineer.

kudos for getting a bullshit discussion to seven pages. all i've read is reiterations on what I said to begin with. the only box i stay in is my ol lady's and we're happy so . have a good one boss.

smokedareefer · Oct 27, 2021

TSD said:
I grew pounds this year, so that's just too much hassle lol.

I only had 2 harvests this year as well all indoors. Lbs.

I've been using my method with those little meters. Meters are a quicker way for me to guess when things are getting close to the 12% moisture I'm looking for. Mad bud is using "shrink" were using humidity.

They both work imo.

smokedareefer · Oct 27, 2021

TSD said:
Not really... the tiny buds on the bottom are gonna dry way before big ass colas on top... especially if you're hanging entire plants, because gravity. But you do you boo.

You can use the same shrink principle but putting the buds on nets, I use nets. My shrink works out to about 80% as hung on a line dryed is probably closer to 83%

tobh · Oct 27, 2021

smokedareefer said:
Why is it a bs discussion? It works!

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I didn't read past the first page. The topic had nothing to do with defoliation. Regardless, a troll will be a troll. Per topic, too many variables come into play to dictate weight to dry time. Figure it out per situation. I'm done with this thread. Don't @ me.

Madbud · Oct 27, 2021

smokedareefer said:
You can use the same shrink principle but putting the buds on nets, I use nets. My shrink works out to about 80% as hung on a line dryed is probably closer to 83%

And thats what i was looking for at first, but now i’m looking for when the weightloss is nearly minimal, less than 10% in a day to know shes ready to jar. As tobh points out, theres a lot of variables, primarily heat and humidity that affect how quick she dries.

Madbud · Oct 27, 2021

My last plant, using the two cuts on the right as a baseline, 19.7g.

smokedareefer · Oct 27, 2021

Madbud said:
And thats what i was looking for at first, but now i’m looking for when the weightloss is nearly minimal, less than 10% in a day to know shes ready to jar. As tobh points out, theres a lot of variables, primarily heat and humidity that affect how quick she dries.

Weightloss doesn't become minimal until much lower ( 44%?) I would guess. I'm drying some now to tumble for hash.

Tomorrow I'll take 3 or 4 oz at 60%, weigh it and dry it to around 44% and weigh it again

lvstealth · Oct 27, 2021

well ok then... i have this terrible urge to @ tobh, just because i am that way... but i am under restraint... for now!

yes, RH is based on Temp. so 60% at 52f is not 60% at 72f or 92f. put your meter in your jar, heat or cool the jar by 5 degrees and see the change. but the bud has not gained or lost any actual moisture.

no real consistency in the measurements. i have pages and pages of temps and times and humidity, opening and closing jars. nothing worked out with any degree of accuracy. but the moisture meter and the grove bags works and is pretty exact. no matter the size plant, the humidity or temp, i dont check or bother it till it sends an alert to my phone that the moisture meter is at the set point. never sees the light or gets touched or pinched or snapped. i open the room, in the dark i put the plant into paper bags. reset the meter and wait for the alert. then clean it up and weigh it into the grove bags.

i like that moisture is moisture and not relative to temperature like humidity. 40% moisture is always going to be the same, no matter the plant or the environment or the jar size or any of the variables.

the grove bags just make it way too easy. put it in the bag, never burp, no meters, nothing extra. the bags store well and i never have to "check" or worry over them. the big thing you dont get with a jar is the weight stays the same. if it weighs 14.28g when you put it in, it weighs 14.28 6 months later too. you get loss in jars.

smokedareefer · Oct 27, 2021

Madbud said:
And thats what i was looking for at first, but now i’m looking for when the weightloss is nearly minimal, less than 10% in a day to know shes ready to jar. As tobh points out, theres a lot of variables, primarily heat and humidity that affect how quick she dries.

I don't think those variables will make much difference as a percentage. A fluffy bud on the stalk will be a fluffy bud in the jar.

11 to 12% moisture in the bud is approximately 62% rh in the jar regardless of any variable.

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