What are these leaves telling me?

oaktoke · Sep 24, 2020

Hey all,

I'm fairly new at this, first time post here...I grew a Harle Tsu mostly inside a couple years ago, with flowering outside on our deck. This year I've grown a Harle Tsu from seed outside in a container...It's hooting up nicely, but the leaves look odd. I've attached pix, anyone know what's going on? It's probably a month old? I haven't been feeding it anything fancy, just a 1-1-1 Dr. Earth fertilizer I have...I tried adding some epsom salts last feeding to see if it would help. Thanks for any info!

Tommy626 · Sep 24, 2020

Has it been cold at night?

Tommy626 · Sep 24, 2020

Tommy626 said:
Has it been cold at night?

Purpling is indicative of a cold root zone and cold temperatures inhibit mag uptake. Bring it in at night or put a heating mat under that clay pot. Hope that helps. Good luck

JWM2 · Sep 24, 2020

It looks like whatever it is its growing out of it. Keep an eye on the new growth.

Tommy626 · Sep 24, 2020

Almost looks similar to russet damage.
Have you looked at it thru a scope?

oaktoke · Sep 24, 2020

Hey, thanks everyone! Tommy626, I live in the Bay Area and it's pretty normal here to have a warm day and then fog rolls in and knocks it down to low 60s...so the variation at night can be pretty high. It's why tomatoes never thrive in San Francisco (I'm in Oakland, which is much better) because it gets too cold at night to self pollinate in the summer. We've also had some pretty wild temp swings even for us, with a hot streak of a week in the 90s, then fog all day for a week. I'm guessing you might be on to something...I'll put a leaf under the microscope too...what should I look for?

JWM2, it has grown pretty fast! I put it in that pot not very long ago when it was a wee babe. Maybe it's running out of room too.

Also, I found a thread somewhere else finally where someone had a similar look to their leaves, and it sounded like the theory was PH being too high. Does that seem possible? I have test on the way...

Arne

Beachwalker · Sep 24, 2020

Tommy626 said:
Almost looks similar to russet damage.
Have you looked at it thru a scope?

+1

Dirtbag · Sep 24, 2020

Beachwalker said:
+1

+2

Madbud · Sep 24, 2020

Yeah, +3, it looks like pictures of russet mite damage

oaktoke · Sep 24, 2020

So I'm looking for clusters of little bugs under the leaves with a scope? I tried a 10x loupe but didn't see much...

Tommy626 · Sep 24, 2020

oaktoke said:
So I'm looking for clusters of little bugs under the leaves with a scope? I tried a 10x loupe but didn't see much...

They are super super small

Tommy626 · Sep 24, 2020

Tommy626 said:
They are super super small

I’m pretty sure u need a 50x minimum

Tommy626 · Sep 24, 2020

I’m confident that’s what is going on there. The purple color thru me for a loop at first.
Russets are small linear green bugs. A lot of times those ruffles in the leaves are clusters of them that’s how small they are. Look where the petiole and leaf meet. That’s where they breed. Not sure how to treat but the plant won’t make it through flower without help bc the flowers are the preferred cuisine of russet mites

oaktoke · Sep 24, 2020

Eek! Ok, I'll take a look tonight...

Tommy626 · Sep 24, 2020

Good luck

Tommy626 · Sep 24, 2020

oaktoke said:
Eek! Ok, I'll take a look tonight...

For future reference I’ve circled one of the first signs of russet mites

oaktoke · Sep 25, 2020

Well, I looked at it under 10x and 120x (lowest my scope goes) and didn't see much of anything...looked all up and down the leaf, at the base where the pettiole meets the leaf on the picture you circled there...I saw a couple round things that maybe could've been eggs of some kind, but certainly nothing that looked like an infestation. maybe the infestation just isn't very big yet? I was looking at pix on the web of russet mites and those infestations look pretty intense and unmistakable...

Flexnerb · Sep 25, 2020

oaktoke said:
Well, I looked at it under 10x and 120x (lowest my scope goes) and didn't see much of anything...looked all up and down the leaf, at the base where the pettiole meets the leaf on the picture you circled there...I saw a couple round things that maybe could've been eggs of some kind, but certainly nothing that looked like an infestation. maybe the infestation just isn't very big yet? I was looking at pix on the web of russet mites and those infestations look pretty intense and unmistakable...

You dont have 60X setting on that scope?

brandonlongmire · Sep 25, 2020

Help guys!! I posted this but no response on anther thread! My plants started doing this weird color of yellow on top while the bottom in nice and green!

Beachwalker · Sep 25, 2020

oaktoke said:
Well, I looked at it under 10x and 120x (lowest my scope goes) and didn't see much of anything...looked all up and down the leaf, at the base where the pettiole meets the leaf on the picture you circled there...I saw a couple round things that maybe could've been eggs of some kind, but certainly nothing that looked like an infestation. maybe the infestation just isn't very big yet? I was looking at pix on the web of russet mites and those infestations look pretty intense and unmistakable...

Please help me identify the problem

Check for russet mites

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