Which is the most reliable seed bank?

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Deadstill

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It’s easier to blame viroids for shitty grow practices than to actually hold yourself accountable for growing problems.
And deadstill I recently heard that tumi is going back on the root test being the most accurate. Everything you heard a year ago probably all different now . 😁
That would not surprise me, it's still very early in the research stages that a lot of what we know about it will likely change over time.

The entire cannabis commercial industry 😅
We have our own pcr tester here at my work and we are required to test weekly before we take cuts.

I don't think it's as prevalent as they make it seem, either. But they do make it sound like Canadian AIDS that you can never get rid of 🤣 (South Park joke, there) 🤠

Kind of like in the 90's when we all started buying condoms like we were all gunna die without 'em 🤣

I do agree with the idea that prevention is easier/cheaper/better than mitigation, though.. Sure can't hurt... Cleanliness is next to Godliness they say 🤠
 
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That would not surprise me, it's still very early in the research stages that a lot of what we know about it will likely change over time.



I don't think it's as prevalent as they make it seem, either. But they do make it sound like Canadian AIDS that you can never get rid of 🤣 (South Park joke, there) 🤠

Kind of like in the 90's when we all started buying condoms like we were all gunna die without 'em 🤣

I do agree with the idea that prevention is easier/cheaper/better than mitigation, though.. Sure can't hurt... Cleanliness is next to Godliness they say 🤠
Canadian aids is rampant here. Outta nowhere, after flu, everyone has a trash can head now 😂😂😂😂
 
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this is the type of bleach needed to clean tools/surfaces etc of the HLVd viroid..
10-20% strength is needed..
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Why? Just being curious... clones were the way to keep ya going
It just doesn't work into my scheme, I'm a 60 y/o personal grower, I never grow over 6 plants so seeds are preferable, I've just had too many people tell me I should when I can't see a reason why & now with this virus (that seemed to come from the practice) even more so.
I don't have $$$ for all this pro testing so if that evil wind passes my way I'm out I guess. If Ohio Issue #2 passes next week perhaps I'll be stuck with over priced bone dry tasteless dispensary weed, though less work, I hope not but I'm not going to stress my weak heart over it, whatever happens happens, I'm not a total slob but Andromeda Strain levels of anal cleanliness is not going to happen in my house, running 6 plants with a full time 3rd shift job keeps me busy enough. 🤷‍♂️
 
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I'm from Chicago. Most hydro shops here also have seed hookups. There's also a seed bank store on Irving park and Pulaski that I know of. They sell beans and clones no need for shipping.
 
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How things have changed going from the best seedbank was the one that sent you viable beans to the best seedbank is the one that doesn’t sell you infected seeds
 
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Just a random thought witch has been bugging me for a few days.

Folks ingest weed as edibles surly if we ingest a plant with a virus it’s not going to end well if not today tomorrow.
maybe it may damage
something that doesn’t show straight away.

I can’t figure why it’s not a dangerous path I mean folks don’t eat animals with viruses because of the health risk none of witch was known at the start exactly were we are.
Never mind smoking them I mean we don’t smoke a plants with bud rot or mould so why make a exception because it’s a virus doesn’t make sense.
 
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Well especially when it comes to COOKING your gonna kill off all viruses and Bacteria.... USUALLY!!! don't get me wrong improper cooking can lead to food poisoning too... but extreme colds or hots usually kill off most virus and bacteria
 
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Just a random thought witch has been bugging me for a few days.

Folks ingest weed as edibles surly if we ingest a plant with a virus it’s not going to end well if not today tomorrow.
maybe it may damage
something that doesn’t show straight away.

I can’t figure why it’s not a dangerous path I mean folks don’t eat animals with viruses because of the health risk none of witch was known at the start exactly were we are.
Never mind smoking them I mean we don’t smoke a plants with bud rot or mould so why make an exception because it’s a virus doesn’t make sense.
pretty sure your fine..
with hops the viroid doesn’t affect it like it does marijuana, so if there was/is an issue the brewery industry would of done something about it.. the cannabis industry though is a whole different story as it affects the end product in quality and yield greatly..
 
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It just doesn't work into my scheme, I'm a 60 y/o personal grower, I never grow over 6 plants so seeds are preferable, I've just had too many people tell me I should when I can't see a reason why & now with this virus (that seemed to come from the practice) even more so.
I don't have $$$ for all this pro testing so if that evil wind passes my way I'm out I guess. If Ohio Issue #2 passes next week perhaps I'll be stuck with over priced bone dry tasteless dispensary weed, though less work, I hope not but I'm not going to stress my weak heart over it, whatever happens happens, I'm not a total slob but Andromeda Strain levels of anal cleanliness is not going to happen in my house, running 6 plants with a full time 3rd shift job keeps me busy enough. 🤷‍♂️
How many home growers with six plants have you seen end up with viroided plants? And especially from seed? Can you show me even one grower here at the farm that has suspect viroid plants from seed? I have seen 0. Even if you get seeds that may or may not be infected you won’t ever know with average general hospitality.
The life span of seeds when growing for smoke isn’t long enough for the viroid to even express itself. 🤦🏼‍♂️
 
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I was also wondering about smoking like smoking mold as years later
pretty sure your fine..
with hops the viroid doesn’t affect it like it does marijuana, so if there was/is an issue the brewery industry would of done something about it.. the cannabis industry though is a whole different story as it affects the end product in quality and yield greatly..
Well as long as we don’t turn out to be gay frogs 🐸🤣

 
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I was also wondering about smoking like smoking mold as years later

Well as long as we don’t turn out to be gay frogs 🐸🤣

Fluoride weed hahahaha
 
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Hi guys as I’m coming of at the end of my first grow in about a month I need to know what seed bank to get my seeds from so i can further enjoy this beautiful beautiful hobby.will take any suggestions as long as they ship to Chicago.
So far multiverse seeds I like and Barney’s , multiverse I found “night owl “ strawberry milk and cookies gem/autos and with a purchase of three they gave me free gummy bear seeds and another of there own making and some free stickers and a personal hand written thank you note great customer service so unless the seeds flop I like them
 
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How many home growers with six plants have you seen end up with viroided plants? And especially from seed? Can you show me even one grower here at the farm that has suspect viroid plants from seed? I have seen 0. Even if you get seeds that may or may not be infected you won’t ever know with average general hospitality.
The life span of seeds when growing for smoke isn’t long enough for the viroid to even express itself. 🤦🏼‍♂️
Well since I know 0, that would be 0, I wasn't the one saying it was transmitted by seed I was just responding to it.
 
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How many home growers with six plants have you seen end up with viroided plants? And especially from seed? Can you show me even one grower here at the farm that has suspect viroid plants from seed? I have seen 0. Even if you get seeds that may or may not be infected you won’t ever know with average general hospitality.
The life span of seeds when growing for smoke isn’t long enough for the viroid to even express itself. 🤦🏼‍♂️
my imperium x was questionable.. i bubbled washed it and the amount was like half as it should of been, so than i made hash oil and i know almost to the gram what i should get and that came out to be about half of what was expected.. not very strong as well..
my 2 friends who smoke it said it’s good but not great.,
HLVd,.. more the half the growers here wouldn’t know it if they have it, geez most never even heard of it before..
and if someone has it they are going to think it’s something else..
geezus🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
 
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my imperium x was questionable.. i bubbled washed it and the amount was like half as it should of been, so than i made hash oil and i know almost to the gram what i should get and that came out to be about half of what was expected.. not very strong as well..
my 2 friends who smoke it said it’s good but not great.,
HLVd,.. more the half the growers here wouldn’t know it if they have it, geez most never even heard of it before..
and if someone has it they are going to think it’s something else..
geezus🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
You know the wild thing is that it’s actual impact is what it is, like in your case nick, while I’m sure you had your doubts through the last half of flower, maybe even thinking your eyes may have been playing tricks ect. I guess what I’m trying to say is, there isn’t any real way to tell outside of live culture testing for every seed and subsequent plant. I think there needs to be cheap handheld well calibrated gear for testing readily available. On top of that, you have to have enough people give a shit about it. Instead of stacks 🫣 like any other endemic virus that humans transmit, there needs to be enough well intentioned funding to back the testing, isolation and eventual eradication. It’s just the crazy ass high numbers 90% in North American grow operations. And that’s just the actual reported numbers. Which, in this field of work we all chose, means that that number in the personal grow space could potentially be just as high. I did a gold leaf hybrid run from crop kings, the one time I purchased fem seeds from them, now before I knew about this virus, that particular crop had me scratching my head. I ran a 25 pack. All in fives. They vegged great, full steam ahead, but when they tripped to flower, it took 13 weeks in flower for a supposed fast plant 7- 8 weeks ( I know 😂)
But the yield, it was easily a third of what I normally would pull for that time frame. Crazy thing, the buds looked great, they where just smaller all around. It was just an off crop, it all clicked later after I studied up on the stuff. After nick started to beat the drum on it. The variations in manifestion with that virus is scary. All can look great, until the stone is lacking and everything else suffers too. I’m not sure at all that’s what the deal was, but it was definitely and anomaly. And I didn’t like the herb at all. Long story, but I never used crop kings or any of their subsidiaries after that. Spider sense has been tingling for a while now…….
 
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You know the wild thing is that it’s actual impact is what it is, like in your case nick, while I’m sure you had your doubts through the last half of flower, maybe even thinking your eyes may have been playing tricks ect. I guess what I’m trying to say is, there isn’t any real way to tell outside of live culture testing for every seed and subsequent plant. I think there needs to be cheap handheld well calibrated gear for testing readily available. On top of that, you have to have enough people give a shit about it. Instead of stacks 🫣 like any other endemic virus that humans transmit, there needs to be enough well intentioned funding to back the testing, isolation and eventual eradication. It’s just the crazy ass high numbers 90% in North American grow operations. And that’s just the actual reported numbers. Which, in this field of work we all chose, means that that number in the personal grow space could potentially be just as high. I did a gold leaf hybrid run from crop kings, the one time I purchased fem seeds from them, now before I knew about this virus, that particular crop had me scratching my head. I ran a 25 pack. All in fives. They vegged great, full steam ahead, but when they tripped to flower, it took 13 weeks in flower for a supposed fast plant 7- 8 weeks ( I know 😂)
But the yield, it was easily a third of what I normally would pull for that time frame. Crazy thing, the buds looked great, they where just smaller all around. It was just an off crop, it all clicked later after I studied up on the stuff. After nick started to beat the drum on it. The variations in manifestion with that virus is scary. All can look great, until the stone is lacking and everything else suffers too. I’m not sure at all that’s what the deal was, but it was definitely and anomaly. And I didn’t like the herb at all. Long story, but I never used crop kings or any of their subsidiaries after that. Spider sense has been tingling for a while now…….
crop king has always been known as crap king in canada..
i hear ya.. i’m just bringing it up and don’t mean any harm to anyone if the feel that way..
i didn’t start this viroid..
i’m sticking with landrace strains after i’m done the seeds i have on stock.. which is a few grows away other than the afghanica i’m growing now..
 
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crop king has always been known as crap king in canada..

I’m sticking with landrace strains after i’m done the seeds i have on stock.
Even as a novice they seemed obviously shady & wasn't at all interested, after finishing my first (quasi) landrace I feel quite the opposite, interesting experiment but I'm not keen to repeat, breeding is ok, I prefer new bananas to those big seed landrace ones. 😁
 
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