Wife down, Need Help!!!

[KLight03]

Any and all help is appreciated. Truly.

And in all honesty, I'm really just needing someone to talk to. So thank you.

Yes, she has her gal bladder still. She is 46 years old, mixed race European, adopted, born from rape, been to Hoffman, had an abortion at age 16 from first sexual experience.

If we are really talking about trauma, and what lies within, that's the mix of it.

At this point I just wont give her name or location for safety reasons. But anything I can give to be of help.

Interesting. My mother thought I was born from rape, too. Not looking for empathy, just drawing the correlation.

Not sure how to achieve it, but she needs to be where she is, since being in hospital will cause it own triggers, but the end goal is to get her home stable. A thing to ask your Self is, how will you react if she becomes separated from her Self again? Figure that out first, then continue the journey. The problem is, she needs care, but would heal better at home. Once you sort your Self out (ask yourself the hard questions), then you can move forward. What does this trigger in you? (I'm not asking you to tell me this, this is for you to do) Then react from that. Make sense? I am not meaning to sound cold, but this is a mental journey for you both. She's in the best place for care that she can be right now, with the end goal being to get her out of where she is so she can recover in a better place. I can't remember who it was quite a few pages back, but he/she mentioned the Kundalini.

Apologies if I'm not making sense now. I've had a migraine for days and my eyes and brain are tired. Also, just know if she's menopausal, that will also cause it's own allergic reactions, which most Western medicine doesn't know a damn thing about. Exacerbated pain symptoms, weird reactions come out. I'm now allergic to Amoxicillin, never been anaphylactic to anything in my life, no known allergies, etc. Now all the things.

I believe you are both going to be okay. I think your edible just happened to push open a door that was already open. How long have you been married?

 

[FamilyCanna]

We've been married 3 years. Married 3 times. Once legally by the state of California, once spiritually by a shaman in Costa Rica, and once this past solstice. Each 1 year apart.

I understand what you're saying entirely in regards to kundalini, yes she very knowledged on it, but no she does not practice it. She meditates deeply daily, and we both do yoga each morning. Just recently with this "period cycle" she has been super emotional but in a spiritual way, writing down how it's all connected, and shes discovered a huge secret, hidden from the masses, known by few. Then boom, this happens.

In regards to her wellbeing, as terrified as I am, I know that where she is, is the safest possible place. We dont have anything to calm her down other than duct tape and a blanket if she goes crazy. PLUS we have a sick elderly grandma living with us. So many no no no no no's.

If she were to be home, have an episode and run into the night, naked, she would be dead within an hour from the cold. And all we would have is a set of footprints in the snow. That's what went thru my mind when I made the decision to call the ambulance yesterday morning.

I'm scared, but I'm realistic in knowing that today she was better than yesterday, and yesterday better than the prior.

 

[KLight03]

We've been married 3 years. Married 3 times. Once legally by the state of California, once spiritually by a shaman in Costa Rica, and once this past solstice. Each 1 year apart.

I understand what you're saying entirely in regards to kundalini, yes she very knowledged on it, but no she does not practice it. She meditates deeply daily, and we both do yoga each morning. Just recently with this "period cycle" she has been super emotional but in a spiritual way, writing down how it's all connected, and shes discovered a huge secret, hidden from the masses, known by few. Then boom, this happens.

In regards to her wellbeing, as terrified as I am, I know that where she is, is the safest possible place. We dont have anything to calm her down other than duct tape and a blanket if she goes crazy. PLUS we have a sick elderly grandma living with us. So many no no no no no's.

If she were to be home, have an episode and run into the night, naked, she would be dead within an hour from the cold. And all we would have is a set of footprints in the snow. That's what went thru my mind when I made the decision to call the ambulance yesterday morning.

I'm scared, but I'm realistic in knowing that today she was better than yesterday, and yesterday better than the prior.

All of us should be drinking more reiki infused water. :) Dehydration can make things extra wacky for up to a week. It's also important to keep things like pedialyte on hand, or if you like Gatorade, make it more water than ade (too much salt causes the opposite reaction). Menopause brings all the changes, unrepressed emotions, things left in the "closet", running into a friend you had a fight with years ago, etc. If you are spiritually inclined, you have to go through a death to continue life. In order to help her, you and your family have to be okay, too, mentally. Not looking at her like she's going to have a mental breakdown every time she gets upset, etc. I'm willing to venture that she has had one of these episodes before. I hope that you can both come to a place where you can talk about it and work through it. You are how old? If early 30s, you are going through a life transition, too. Shedding skins is never easy.

A word of advice? Change your vocabulary. We all go through things in life that can deem us "crazy." A dark night of the soul is a dark night of the soul, we all go through it and if a person hasn't, then they will one day. Attaching negative labels won't help her. She's experiencing something y'all are unfamiliar with. Make sense?

 

[FamilyCanna]

All of us should be drinking more reiki infused water. :) Dehydration can make things extra wacky for up to a week. It's also important to keep things like pedialyte on hand, or if you like Gatorade, make it more water than ade (too much salt causes the opposite reaction). Menopause brings all the changes, unrepressed emotions, things left in the "closet", running into a friend you had a fight with years ago, etc. If you are spiritually inclined, you have to go through a death to continue life. In order to help her, you and your family have to be okay, too, mentally. Not looking at her like she's going to have a mental breakdown every time she gets upset, etc. I'm willing to venture that she has had one of these episodes before. I hope that you can both come to a place where you can talk about it and work through it. You are how old? If early 30s, you are going through a life transition, too. Shedding skins is never easy.

A word of advice? Change your vocabulary. We all go through things in life that can deem us "crazy." A dark night of the soul is a dark night of the soul, we all go through it and if a person hasn't, then they will one day. Attaching negative labels won't help her. She's experiencing something y'all are unfamiliar with. Make sense?

You talk like she does. It calms me.

Yes, I turn 31 in april. You could easily guess now that she's a capricorn.

You're right, my vocab will change and so will my attitude towards this.

The dehydration thing is huge, I know she was hospitalized when she was a child for dehydration. She always over hydrates, always. But these past 4 days, just 1 IV drip and 2 juices and a water.

Just reminded me of 1996, Martin Lawrence ran into traffic in broad daylight screaming at traffic, then fought 4 cops until they restrained him and hospitalized him. Turns out he was sleep deprived and extremely dehydrated and missed a med.

Not unfamiliar...

 

[KLight03]

You talk like she does. It calms me.

Yes, I turn 31 in april. You could easily guess now that she's a capricorn.

You're right, my vocab will change and so will my attitude towards this.

The dehydration thing is huge, I know she was hospitalized when she was a child for dehydration. She always over hydrates, always. But these past 4 days, just 1 IV drip and 2 juices and a water.

Just reminded me of 1996, Martin Lawrence ran into traffic in broad daylight screaming at traffic, then fought 4 cops until they restrained him and hospitalized him. Turns out he was sleep deprived and extremely dehydrated and missed a med.

Not unfamiliar...

Yeah, too much straight water isn't good for us, either. It's what happens when people end up in the hospital from Ecstasy. All water, no salt. Our bodies (skeletons) are built on calcium salts. If there is no balance, down you go, then all the cells have to work extra hard to create them from an emergency situation, which takes some time. Our bodies WANT to heal themselves, sometimes we just need to shut down to do so, after we have ignored the signs for a bit. I'm sure she experienced something that she ignored. We are like that, "Oh, that's just, blah, blah, blah.. I'll be fine."

I'm glad she has you to help her through this. Glad to be of help. Peace be with y'all!

 

[FamilyCanna]

UPDATE: its 7am, didnt sleep very well.

I called the nurses station at the psych ward to see how she is doing.

They said they gave her Haldol after last night's event, and shes been sleeping since 830pm.

They are going to wake her at 815am for breakfast, and I'm allowed to call and try to speak with her.

The nurses also said they have to review her before they determine if she will be allowed to have us visit today.

 

[FamilyCanna]

UPDATE:

Called and spoke with nurses, they said she woke up this morning and has been very afraid, but answered some questions. Then she withdrew and curled into the fetal position and pretended to be asleep and wouldn't respond.

The nurse said they were going to have a team meeting with all the doctors and staff who've seen her and determine what next.

UPDATE 2: Nurse called back and said the doctors and psychiatrists all agree that this is quote "99.999%" just cannabis induced psychosis, and she will just simply have to let it pass her system. They said considering her state and the scenario thus far, it could take a couple days. The important thing is they are checking on her every 15 minutes to make sure she is staying hydrated and safe.

The 2 dr.s onsite (who are amazing Indian dr.s) both told me that with everything they've been able to find out via toxicology, ct scans, urine tests, verbal exams, that this is extremely extremely unlikely to be a mental disorder onset.

This news made my entire family weep and embrace each other, I cannot explain how relieved I am.

I told the staff to pass the message along to tell her verbatim "you are loved, you are safe" these words are our bond, we live by them. The staff was extremely nice and complied.

They also told me as soon as she is moving around they will tell her to give me a call because I'm waiting to hear from her.

I've made over a million $$$ in cannabis, and I've never once considered it to be unsafe in any way at all.

My world has been turned upside down by this, and all I hope this thread can help someone make the best decision for a loved one if they experience this.

I made the right choice to call an ambulance. She very easily could've been dead by now had I not done that.

 

[Jimster]

UPDATE:

Called and spoke with nurses, they said she woke up this morning and has been very afraid, but answered some questions. Then she withdrew and curled into the fetal position and pretended to be asleep and wouldn't respond.

The nurse said they were going to have a team meeting with all the doctors and staff who've seen her and determine what next.

UPDATE 2: Nurse called back and said the doctors and psychiatrists all agree that this is quote "99.999%" just cannabis induced psychosis, and she will just simply have to let it pass her system. They said considering her state and the scenario thus far, it could take a couple days. The important thing is they are checking on her every 15 minutes to make sure she is staying hydrated and safe.

The 2 dr.s onsite (who are amazing Indian dr.s) both told me that with everything they've been able to find out via toxicology, ct scans, urine tests, verbal exams, that this is extremely extremely unlikely to be a mental disorder onset.

This news made my entire family weep and embrace each other, I cannot explain how relieved I am.

I told the staff to pass the message along to tell her verbatim "you are loved, you are safe" these words are our bond, we live by them. The staff was extremely nice and complied.

They also told me as soon as she is moving around they will tell her to give me a call because I'm waiting to hear from her.

I've made over a million $$$ in cannabis, and I've never once considered it to be unsafe in any way at all.

My world has been turned upside down by this, and all I hope this thread can help someone make the best decision for a loved one if they experience this.

I made the right choice to call an ambulance. She very easily could've been dead by now had I not done that.

I'm happy to hear that things are heading in the right direction. It's a great feeling when you get good news from Drs. When I had my heart attack, the told my wife that IF I survived, I would have major brain damage. Needless to say, I was the exception but my wife cried tears of joy when I opened my eyes after 2 weeks on life support. A very happy outcome for a very dire circumstance. You are feeling the joy as well with improvement and a more solid diagnosis that can be resolved.
Regarding cannabis being harmful, I could understand your second thoughts on it. Everything can be harmful, and this was an exception, but you have every right to question your earlier beliefs. In my case it might have helped as cannabis can somehow lessen the cascade brain cell death that can result from brain injuries, such as lack of Oxygen. Perhaps this is why I escaped a much darker fate due to the protection of the plant.
In any event, it is beyond great that your wife is swinging back. I pray that she continues to improve and some day you can hopefully laugh about it together. Obviously you have great love for her and saved her life by calling the ambulance. When I had my attack, the wife wouldn't call an ambulance because the house was messy and made we walk thru the cold and snow into our car. If I arrived an hour later they said I wouldn't be here. You made the right choice!

 

[FamilyCanna]

Thanks so much. Your words mean the world to me.

As I begin to study CID (Cannabis induced Psychosis) I am learning it's a very real thing and happens literally all the time, like 500,000 cases/year in the US alone....

The scary part still, is it is a long road to recovery, and now she will forever be susceptible to schizophrenia.

From what I was able to learn, it can take days, weeks, months, and even years before she is fully healed. And will require ongoing attention to mental health, and medications to keep her balanced.

Any use of cannabis from this point on is an extreme risk factor for her to have another episode.

One case i read was a 19yo female who smoked a massive joint the night before going to school, made it to school the next day and completely lost touch with reality. She was stable within days, but took 2 years to regain the ability to work and go back to school.

Luckily, all these severe cases happen in adolescents, and persons under the age of 25, curious how the brain works.

 

[dire wolf]

Wow 500,000 cases a year , thats frightining .......

 

[Jimster]

curious how the brain works.

I concur. During my stint in the hospital, my brain put together a bunch of imagined as well as actual events and made it's own reality. During my ordeal, my memory of what I thought happened was that I went to Florida for Thanksgiving as well as for my wife to have a cosmetic procedure done. The Drs doing the procedure were oriental and were using black market anesthetics and were doing back alley surgery. I tried to warn her but they kept dosing me with medication to keep me from stopping them, although the medicine didn't last long.
In reality, I had the attack weeks before Thanksgiving. The Chinese Drs I imagined was actually a cardiac specialist overseeing my treatment. I thought I was in florida because everything is white in the hospital... a lot like south florida living and decor. The inferior drugs were actually real drugs that I somehow seemed semi-immune to. They would give me a bolus to knock me out but I woke up very quickly... within minutes. This is what I thought was happening until I became a little more lucid and my wife explained what had happened. The Thanksgiving part was somewhat real, however as my family and friends had Thxgiving at the hospital, and I remember someone eating pumpkin pie. A totally made up reality! I also found myself asleep ad heard the Drs and nurses trying to rouse me, but I preferred to stay in my dream world and the reality outside of my head seemed distant. What finally snapped me out of it was a damn bedsore the size of a silver dollar that hurt badly.
The gist of everything is that the brain is still very mysterious. Consciousness is till very hard to define and what we experience is a translation and a creation of our brains.

 

[Formallyhap]

She need to be in therapy with a really good one. There are plenty who take a spiritual approach.

-guy with a background/education in psych

 

[FamilyCanna]

She need to be in therapy with a really good one. There are plenty who take a spiritual approach.

-guy with a background/education in psych

I agree, we will for sure be going to regular appointments with healers and such.

To the gentleman who had the heart attack, you're describing exactly what I feel my wife is going thru.

She forcefully makes herself seem asleep as if she wants to wake up out of this nightmare.

Time, love, water, and good meds.

 

[Formallyhap]

Go to as many as it takes for her to be comfortable with them. It doesn't matter if you meet with 100 people to find the right one, it's worth it.

 

[Dbear180]

Drugs medicinal & recreational effect everyone differently which is why they usually have a huge list of potential side effects. What happens to patient A may not to patient B tho...

This reminds me of a time a girl took a huge dab @ a small house party we had. She neglected to tell us she had never even smoked weed before... needless to say after a minor head rolling episode that resembled something like a scene from "the exorcist" she went to another plane of reality for a few hours... would come back for a few moments at a time saying she was fine... & then gone to the world again...
She was ok the next day from what I was told but I never talked with her again to find out about it all (she was just a friend of a friends girlfriend)

 

[FamilyCanna]

UPDATE:

She hasn't responded to anyone today, has been curled up in bed.

The nurse said she is clearly awake, and only when someone enters the room she withdraws and shuts down.

They say this is normal for someone in her condition.

The dr. Ordered some meds to give her tonight, evidently specifically for CID and will help calm her down while also flushing excess thc from her system.

Nurse said she has seen this med work wonders before, and is excited to see her tomorrow to see how she will have improved.

 

[Neckhole]

Vibes~~> FamilyCanna

 

[FamilyCanna]

UPDATE:

Called the psych ward to check up on her.

At dinner time the nurse brought her a tray of food and she was able to talk with her for a while. She said she wouldn't respond today because she was afraid she was going to say the wrong thing and have to stay longer, and she didnt leave her bed because she was afraid she was going to have another episode.

The nurse said although she was finally talking and opening up, she still was displaying some paranoia, much like a first timer hitting the joint a little too hard then freaking out the cops are coming...

A social worker came in to ask some mandatory questions like if theres abuse at home, etc, basic wellbeing questions, and she was very responsive and ensured her the only place she wanted to be was home with me.

They will be offering her a medication tonight to help her have clarity and calmness, and I believe it also acts as a blocker that prevents more THC from entering the brain. This medication is voluntary however, and she expressed how she would prefer not to take any more meds as shes been doped up for nearly 4 days.

I told the nurse to leave the medication next to her juice cup and tell her it's her decision and only take it if she starts to feel confused and strange.

I will be allowed to visit tomorrow at 2pm, my mother will be going with, they bond really well.

They are still expecting to discharge on Monday, which makes me feel almost weightless when thinking yesterday I was having to potentially prepare for a lifetime of dedicated caregiving for the love of my life.

Deep stuff friends.

To keep my mind at bay today, since I was unable to visit her, I returned to my garden which is approaching week 9, and keeping positive that my medicine will still help a lot of ppl despite this event.

Here are some trich pics of today.

After this is all said and done, I will write up a TLDR, and I hope a moderator makes a sticky under some tab referring to "safety".

Cheers.

 

[Cattapilla]

I'm so happy that she's already analyzing her responses, and cognizant of where she is, and using caution. I’m sure everyone is thrilled with how far she has come since being admitted for observation. Your visit with your mother may calm her, but may also upset her when you are ready to leave. You have plenty of confidence, though, and project a sense of calm, which is what she needs. The facility she is in sounds like they care very much for her well being and for her eventual return home.

 

[FamilyCanna]

Update:

Called to see how she did overnight.

She refused to take the meds they offered, but slept throughout the night.

The nurse said her only concern she has at this point is that she hasn't eaten anything since arriving. They are switching her to a Veggie Menu because even I wont eat hospital meat.

I get to visit at 2pm today, so I am extremely excited to see my baby again.