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And if you were in any case right and ignore the fact that we most likely live miles and boarders away, would there been something wrong? :)
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Misshroom
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Yeah, i think i'm going with lst :P
yep, but you have to make sure you dont split the stem, just gently crush and bend. Not done it yet myself, just what i've read :) If what i done was super cropping it was a bit brutal, that girl still sulking about it ha ha
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Was just playing around.
I am impressed with the first time go at it.
Definitely looks as though this is going to be a success, congrats.
Off to a better start than I ever was! I'll stay tuned!
Peace.
I am impressed with the first time go at it.
Definitely looks as though this is going to be a success, congrats.
Off to a better start than I ever was! I'll stay tuned!
Peace.
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That's alright. I'm forever pessimistic and apologize for the assumtions :p
Thank you! let's only hope so (that it would be a success:)
Thank you! let's only hope so (that it would be a success:)
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I would like to add a couple things about bending the plants.
First off, I think it is fine to do it in VEG only. Bent stems grow into thick knuckles of stem, however that is only if they are in the early part of vegatative stage, or early flower (before the end of stretch). Any bending done after the stretch will not heal, and will start to rot in the crease, leaving you in a state of shock at what you did wrong.
A very simple mistake can cost significant yeild.
So my point here is plan carefully, and do not BEND/PINCH any stems after week 1-2 flower, preferably finish the process of bending and pinching before the last week of VEG.
I do see how you are training these plants, and this is all fine (you haven't crushed the cell wall of the stem,
however some times you pinch a little to hard, or when you mist your plants (etc.), and the stem crushes, this is mostly what I am talking about when I say bend and pinch.
This is the type of damage to the stems that does no heal once the stretching is complete.
So yeah, less is more in my books.
First off, I think it is fine to do it in VEG only. Bent stems grow into thick knuckles of stem, however that is only if they are in the early part of vegatative stage, or early flower (before the end of stretch). Any bending done after the stretch will not heal, and will start to rot in the crease, leaving you in a state of shock at what you did wrong.
A very simple mistake can cost significant yeild.
So my point here is plan carefully, and do not BEND/PINCH any stems after week 1-2 flower, preferably finish the process of bending and pinching before the last week of VEG.
I do see how you are training these plants, and this is all fine (you haven't crushed the cell wall of the stem,
however some times you pinch a little to hard, or when you mist your plants (etc.), and the stem crushes, this is mostly what I am talking about when I say bend and pinch.
This is the type of damage to the stems that does no heal once the stretching is complete.
So yeah, less is more in my books.
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I said it once and i'll say it again, any advice is welcome :) So if i understand you correctly, no topping, pinching or cropping after veg? I think i'm just going with lst this run, i don't feel to sure about topping and/or super cropping with lst. as long as I'm just vegging them lst will be fine?
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Correct, doing this in veg is basically setting the framework or scaffolding for buds yet to come. Every time you bend branches down, they become the bones that hold up the new shoots, it's better not to bend the new shoots and just let them be. Less stress on them, and less re-adjusting to the light. Just let them be once your plant has the proper structure and is taking up the right amount of space (not to packed).
An analogy would be to take the chair out from a fat kid after he has settled in for class!
Don't do that. :mad::badboy:
Now he has to get back up, blow off some steam before he can get back to his studies!
On a side note, you are going for surface area. More surface area, higher yeild.
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So, by leaving a little spacing in between plants and not overcrowding you will get a better yeild, as he light can get in between the plants and down to the bottom.
This opposed to having only finished buds at the top of your plant and a bunch of fluffy stuff at the bottoms.
Your plants are looking great, so these are just a couple tips for in you want a little more out of your space.
An analogy would be to take the chair out from a fat kid after he has settled in for class!
Don't do that. :mad::badboy:
Now he has to get back up, blow off some steam before he can get back to his studies!
On a side note, you are going for surface area. More surface area, higher yeild.
______________________________________________________
has less surface area then
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
So, by leaving a little spacing in between plants and not overcrowding you will get a better yeild, as he light can get in between the plants and down to the bottom.
This opposed to having only finished buds at the top of your plant and a bunch of fluffy stuff at the bottoms.
Your plants are looking great, so these are just a couple tips for in you want a little more out of your space.
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I won't bully the fat kid! thanks, think i'm gone try and do exactly that. Just let her grow natural (or as natural as possible with lst) and try to make as much space as I have for the budsites :)
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Update: water & feeding day. 1,7L with 1/2ml grow and 1/2ml fish mix. Got some more lights, 200w clf. Temperature rised to 28,4c, not too bad. Ph: 6 Humidity: 48% . Need to buy new fans! they are not effective at all :( Fairly good air flow and not dying temps (thanks to the exhaust fan) but shit, they are shit. oscillating fans next.
thanks for looking and keep it green :)
Lemon haze first, Mix last.
thanks for looking and keep it green :)
Lemon haze first, Mix last.
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Used pipe cleaners for a long time, they work good. Now I`m using the rubber coated plant wire. Works better cause it`s stiffer and doesn`t rust. IMO.
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rust? aaah, never thought of that! got to see what a rubber coated plant wire is, as im not sure how to translate that :P I'll look it up, thanks :)
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Topping is the method to create more bud sites, its the difference between 1 Big Cola on top and as mentioned earlier, fluffy small buds around the lower, Or lots of main Colas. Topping or super cropping can seem a bit scary at first but really pays dividends in the end. My girls are looking very good for it, as you know as you've been following my grow :) yes its me :) first time indoor grow, Newbie 1. Messed up the access to my profile so had to set up a new one. And no, that avatar is'nt me, im nowhere near as good looking as that lol :-)I said it once and i'll say it again, any advice is welcome :) So if i understand you correctly, no topping, pinching or cropping after veg? I think i'm just going with lst this run, i don't feel to sure about topping and/or super cropping with lst. as long as I'm just vegging them lst will be fine?
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I strongly disagree, I bend tops with full grown buds that get to close to the light almost every grow. You have to support them of course. I use yoyos, but don't see any negative results. I just rub the side of the stem that I want the top to bend towards with my thumb till it softens up and bends over.I would like to add a couple things about bending the plants.
First off, I think it is fine to do it in VEG only. Bent stems grow into thick knuckles of stem, however that is only if they are in the early part of vegatative stage, or early flower (before the end of stretch). Any bending done after the stretch will not heal, and will start to rot in the crease, leaving you in a state of shock at what you did wrong.
A very simple mistake can cost significant yeild.
So my point here is plan carefully, and do not BEND/PINCH any stems after week 1-2 flower, preferably finish the process of bending and pinching before the last week of VEG.
I do see how you are training these plants, and this is all fine (you haven't crushed the cell wall of the stem,
however some times you pinch a little to hard, or when you mist your plants (etc.), and the stem crushes, this is mostly what I am talking about when I say bend and pinch.
This is the type of damage to the stems that does no heal once the stretching is complete.
So yeah, less is more in my books.
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hahah, that made me smil good :D yeees, your grow is looking real fiine. maybe i'll throw in a topping or two. should i do it now? both main tops :P ? LOL i have like no idea on that subject.
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Denfinitely gonna remember that, good chance i'll need it :) thanks!I strongly disagree, I bend tops with full grown buds that get to close to the light almost every grow. You have to support them of course. I use yoyos, but don't see any negative results. I just rub the side of the stem that I want the top to bend towards with my thumb till it softens up and bends over.
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I've only grown in tents so height always comes into play. With a 7' tent you only have 4-5' of actual grow space when you take the container height and how far the light hangs at its highest point.Denfinitely gonna remember that, good chance i'll need it :) thanks!
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You could top right now if you want.hahah, that made me smil good :D yeees, your grow is looking real fiine. maybe i'll throw in a topping or two. should i do it now? both main tops :p ? LOL i have like no idea on that subject.
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Well if you make at least one person smile in a day youve done a good job :-) lol. I topped when they had reached 4th node, just cut when the stem has got long enough to reach in with scissors or blade, minding not to damage the new growth from 3rd node. They will then develop into 2 new branches. I let them get long enough to LST and when the head of each branch turned upwards towards the light i topped them again, they in turn form 2 new branches each. The side shoots also start shooting out from the branches, I let every thing settle and grow for a while and when the heads had reached the same level, topped again. And I've just continued that way since creating more and more bud sites :-) Hey Im no expert lol just learned from tons of you tube vids and the good folks on here. Its surprising what you learn in a short amount of time. Im starting to check out chemistry and stuff, never thought id see the day ha ha. :-)hahah, that made me smil good :D yeees, your grow is looking real fiine. maybe i'll throw in a topping or two. should i do it now? both main tops :p ? LOL i have like no idea on that subject.
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Yea I'm 5 years in and feel like I don't know shit.Well if you make at least one person smile in a day youve done a good job :) lol. I topped when they had reached 4th node, just cut when the stem has got long enough to reach in with scissors or blade, minding not to damage the new growth from 3rd node. They will then develop into 2 new branches. I let them get long enough to LST and when the head of each branch turned upwards towards the light i topped them again, they in turn form 2 new branches each. The side shoots also start shooting out from the branches, I let every thing settle and grow for a while and when the heads had reached the same level, topped again. And I've just continued that way since creating more and more bud sites :) Hey Im no expert lol just learned from tons of you tube vids and the good folks on here. Its surprising what you learn in a short amount of time. Im starting to check out chemistry and stuff, never thought id see the day ha ha. :)
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Just as well im switching mine then bro. My tents only 6' and them girls are getting big :-) Hope their going to fit :-( lolI've only grown in tents so height always comes into play. With a 7' tent you only have 4-5' of actual grow space when you take the container height and how far the light hangs at its highest point.
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