Seamaiden
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LMAO! You and my dad.
I just got a post in my news feed, the Upper San Joaquin is basically run dry. Apparently the water agency down there has sent out a notice to all the pre-1914 folks, aka the grandfathered people, telling them they have to stop drawing. Oh! (we'll whine for them) But we're grandfathered in!!
Ah, but the water's gone.
Like I been sayin'...
I didn't say they're running rivers dry, I said they're running surface waters that had previously run year-round dry. And we've got at *least* one poster here who not only confirms that, but who has stated clearly that he participates in it.
Multiple tributaries of the Eel river such as Outlet Creek, Salmon Creek,
So 87,000 people live along that river. That is the entire counties of areas that share that river. So lets say 10% of those people are growing pot. Way above the national average, but we are talking Mendo here. So each grower would have to use up 609 acre feet of water each. That doesn't sound like much.......
How much is an acre foot of water? 325 851.429 US gallons
Or a total amount of 198,443,520 gallons each grower
Does anybody think that is feasible? Math is a bitch.
No one is claiming pot growers caused the drought, that is ridiculous. It is one of many contributing factors to the drought conditions worsening however. Despite the absurd amount of time you must have spent compiling the above math is is pretty obvious to me you have never actually seen a large scale grow op or the damage it can potentially do.
People are pulling so much water that previously year-round above-ground sources are going dry, and you think that's not a problem? You see the headlines that we're experiencing the 6th Great Mass Extinction on Earth? Shit like this doesn't help.
Multiple tributaries of the Eel river such as Outlet Creek, Salmon Creek, and many others have been run completely dry last year and the year before that, and will likely run dry again this year. Twenty four tributaries of the South Fork of the Eel have now been run dry according the Fish and Game. This is a direct result of large scale illegal gardens drawing from the rivers.
Yes we are in a drought, but the water shortages we have are the fault of government management, not farmers, households or industry. We would have enough if it was managed right. But the government would rather put the blame on others than own up to there bad management. As long as we are fighting against each other, we don`t ask the tuff questions.
You guys twist my words so badly. I am not saying the government caused less rain.......WTF? They do however limit the rain they collect. It may be in the name of conserving natural lands, and not building more dames. It could be not catching the 70% of rainfall that goes back into the ocean, However that is the core responsibility of government, is to provide these things for it's people. Every land on Earth will go through drought. The reason the human race is so successful is because we can overcome things like drought, with human innovation. Blaming pot growers for damming the rivers pretending they are using up all the water is a ridiculous argument. Name one river where pot growers are running the river dry? Then lets calculate the water flow of that river, and it's volume. We are talking billions of gallons of water, growers just don't use that much water, period. It's just another witch hunt.
The lowermost United States Geological Survey (USGS) streamgage on the Eel where flow volume is measured is at Scotia, where an annual mean of 7,309 cubic feet per second (207.0 m3/s), or 5.3 million acre feet (6.5 km3) per year, was recorded between 1910 and 2012.
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Reduction in flow occurs in part due to deliberate water diversion from the Eel to the Russian River watershed by the Pacific Gas and Electric Company's Potter Valley Hydro-power Project, located to the south in Mendocino County, although the dams used by the project can provide additional baseflow to the Eel River during the dry season.
ARE WE REALLY SAYING POT FARMERS USED UP 7,309 CUBIC FEET A SECOND?????? OR 5.3 MILLION ACRE FEET ANUALLY? MATH AND FACTS ARE YOUR FRIEND, FEELINGS AND SPECULATION CAN PERVERT ANY ARGUMENT.
Exactly! Well said Dagwood.Al the big numbers you got from a chart to play with aren't really relevant here. What matters is how much water is available now to fill those small headwater tributaries to keep the fish going. There isn't enough.