Nevil's Gofundme Account

[zeke]

Actually the plot has already thickened multiple times here. I'd say that the plot is continuing to thicken. Very nice guys. Let's gets some more info flowing, I love it.

 

[Wisher619]

http://www.everydayhealth.com/news/pros-cons-new-hepatitis-treatments-patients/

An article about Harvani

Seems pretty pricy but i looked up the success rate and it is there....trying to figure out the article that I read about Auscann with the CEO talking about how people can't believe they landed Nevil and how amazing he is of a cannabis breeder and he has 30 years of medical lab grown cannabis experience and how he is the cornerstone of what they need to accomplish the goals set forth.....but they can't figure out a way of getting treatments so he can actually live long enough to do what they need him to do......Kinda Fishy......Go Fund Me sounds more like money they need to pay for the paperwork to file with GOV to License to grow...or maybe to pay for the security to be able to grow....which was why it was denied in the first place when Tasman tried last year and failed

 

[Wisher619]

http://www.news.com.au/national/bre...medical-cannabis/story-e6frfku9-1227361095596
I was actually reading another article that says they will be specifically growing Cannabis Sativa which apparently Canada can't grow because of there climate as well as the difficulty of growing it indoors...
Those Darn Canadians and there lack of Sativa Growing Skills.....gosh......
That was sarcasm......
http://mashable.com/2015/05/20/medical-marijuana-norfolk-island/

http://www.cannabisclubaustralia.co...abis-export-hub/c7a5/555bd0e90cf21fee13a03709

 

[DANKeschön]

http://www.medicaljane.com/directory/company/tasman-health-cannabinoids-pty-ltd/

That is Tasman
I guess working with AusCann
now the plot really thickens

Tasman Health Cannabinoids was the previous name for AusCann before they regrouped.

 

[Wisher619]

according to Ben....

 

[DANKeschön]

It's interesting that Ben mentions DNA analysis of seeds will prove which came from his strains.

This is in the works and I can't wait!

DNA doesn't lie.:)

 

[Wisher619]

Was just reading how David Watson/Sam the Skunkman owns the largest genetic cannabis library in the world. He also is the founder of Hortapharm B.V. which is the primary breeder for GW pharm which is Sativex....also note Hortapharm was licensed and backed by the DEA to operate in the Netherlands at exactly the same time that Operation Green Merchant took place....with a warrant for David's ex-partner Nevil...and all that ties into Monsanto, A few years ago Mr. Watson spoke at a conference in Vancouver about genetically modifying cannabis seeds to be only female and sterile as to not be breedable...working with Monsanto scientists.....funny how someone with supposedly that extensive of a library wants to restrict citizens from generating their own plants.....and at the same time he is supposedly the one who actually helped Ben Dronkers and Nevil bring said plants to the masses....

 

[zeke]

Yaaaahwn! Ahhh, I'm getting sleepy.

 

[crocodile og]

^^LOL, you've already asked me that question and I responded in post #56 and you've responded to my post in post #58!;)

It was only yesterday, croc!

Now, moving right along, if you could explain the contradictory sets of info on the 2 AusCann sites that would be helpful!

Exactly. The conspiracy angle is all yours.

Why dont you email and ask them yourself. Then you have facts and not gossip?

 

[crocodile og]

So where can we view this alleged Monsanto conference? Have you seen it yourself?

 

[Wisher619]

You can ask Zeke about it...He was in a thread about it here I believe in 2014 nov timeframe...a lot of info on that thread...his speech was at a Hemp Conference in Vancouver in 1997....he has been working on this since 1998 funded by Dutch Government and the DEA...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/cannabis-a-year-that-changed-minds-1200871.html
here is a good article from 1998

 

[crocodile og]

You can ask Zeke about it...He was in a thread about it here I believe in 2014 nov timeframe...a lot of info on that thread...his speech was at a Hemp Conference in Vancouver in 1997....he has been working on this since 1998 funded by Dutch Government and the DEA...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/cannabis-a-year-that-changed-minds-1200871.html
here is a good article from 1998

The journalist is confused between sensimilla and sterility. Its understandable if they dont grow.

If the DEA didnt allow medical then why give Watson a permit? Thats a more important question? If you want to go down that rabbit hole. Wouldnt by that logic mean they are in cahoots with all the other med companies aswell? If they were chasing Nevil then why give Auscann a green light. It makes no sense and asks more questions than it answers.

 

[DANKeschön]

Exactly. The conspiracy angle is all yours.

Why dont you email and ask them yourself. Then you have facts and not gossip?

Well, I'VE NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT A CONSPIRACY! So please stop putting words in my mouth and acting like it's fact!:)

And, IT'S A FACT, NOT GOSSIP, te link that YOU posted states nevil and Troy are leaders of AusCann while the other site doesn't even mention their names.

Hey, you're the Aussie here not me, I thought you knew what was going on with the info you posted.

So howz 'bout you providing info rather than just pop in and try to muddy the water with talk/accusations of conspiracy and gossip.:)

But if you don't know what's going on you always have the option of just saying so, it's OK!;)

 

[Wisher619]

I don't think anyone is confused between sterility and Sensi.....at the Hemp Confrence he talked about infusing a terminator gene so that the seeds that they produce will not be able to grow plants themselves as well as not be cloneable....we could get into the specifics of how that works or you can research yourself Monsanto corn or rapeseed or soy.....

Croc you do know that US government scientists in 1949 discovered that cannabis was able to subside tremors and seizures and that US has patented CBD in the early 70's....As well...just research how David and Clarke were able to get this license for Horta Pharm (2 Americans one of them supposedly being a fugitive) instead of legitimate scientists that had been trying to get the ok for years....David had all the seed stock original hundreds of varieties which probably came from DEA and he was teamed up with a leading biochemist on terminator gene technology....Is it as far fetched as the CIA supplying Heroin and cocaine into the US by plane of maybe the US Air Force flying in same said substance during Vietnam Nam....or Maybe top military security team being busted running a prostitution ring....the list goes on and on....people always call conspiracy and tin foil hats especially when something isn't commercialized on TV or Magazine....and people have to use the slightest of intellect to put 2-2 together....

 

[Wisher619]

Croc I think you are confused
DEA has nothing to do with AusCann they gave the green light to HortaPharm who is founded by Nevil's Partner...as well the charges against Nevil were dropped after both Aus and Holland wouldn't extradite him....during operation Green Mercahant the even Raided NASA hydroponic Labs who were experimenting with growing cannabis in space from Nevil's seeds stock.....during Green Merchant a lot of money and assets were seized and never to be released...Money/Houses/cars...youname it....High Times was raided...Same with Jorge Cervantes hydro store.
At the same time a grow operation was busted in New Mexico which is reported to be the most sophisticated grow op in US history.....and supposedly they got these cuttings from some professor in Washington which they paid 26,000.00 for and called the herb "Kryptonite" because it was supposedly so strong it would take Super Man down...That is also a matter of public record....The outfit called themselves "The Company"

@crocodile og I suggest you read the book The 15 ounce pound...I'm sure you can fin it free online....Quick read and gives a much better insight..

 

[crocodile og]

Bro youre drawing too many conclusions from imperfect sources. How does the DEA have anything to do with UK? The UK gov gave the licence to Hortapharm. By your logic it makes Rob Clarke DEA too. How? What did he do? Australian govt. approved Auscann not DEA.

Sam wasnt nevils partner. They were acquantainces. He bought seeds from sam. Then sold them to USA. That how green merchant got him.

Your addition is wrong . 2+2=4. Not 22

 

[Wisher619]

DEA in conjunction with Gov of Holland approved HortaPharm and Richard Clarke hasn't been involved since the Late 90's from what he says in his interviews on YouTube....the UK approved GW Pharm which is not a part of HortaPharm but works with them..HortaPharm is based in Amsterdam...the more you speak Croc the more I realize how much you really don't know. Clarke also has stated that almost all seeds that Nevil got had been worked for about 10 years before Nevil got them and Nevil has stated that those same seeds are what Ben was still selling....they were fully worked and stabilized lines....The same seeds that Nevil was selling were for sale in Santa Cruz as early as 1971 even before David Watson got ahold of them...According to Clarke....As for AusCann what I have read is the Prime Minister can still veto them at any time and that they havnt got the green light at all....I have also read a first hand account of a meeting that took place with Nevil and Clarke and Watson and Arjan and Ben and a few others where accusations flew and Nevil was on record as saying David was a "Spook" and David said yeah so...I believe it is also confirmed in a thread that Nevil spoke of the incident....on MNS forums....there is a lot of info out there but Clarke is doing the work right now that will determin what came from here and what is related to what....only time will tell

 

[crocodile og]

...... and please, don't get me started on nevils company (AusCann) and their little smoke and mirrors games!

Oh but you did bring up the conspiracy angle.

However I'm glad that we are now both in agreement that there is no conspiracy. It took you a little while to come round but thank you anyway.

Now for someone who doesnt need proof that is a very amusing accusation of "muddying the waters". Who is the pot and who is the kettle? Hmmm?

Now I very much appreciate the assumption importance you bestow upon me. I'm flattered. Really. But I'm only able to share what is available in the public domain. Maybe you can have someone teach you how to use google or a similar search engine. That's how I found that link.

Or would you rather I ride my kangaroo over to Norfolk Island and demand answers? If they aren't forthcoming shall I threaten them with a boomerang? Particularly relating to matters that won't be resolved untill 2016?

Now if you have an enquiry to any discrepancy about their website or company structure you can email them yourself. After all you do know how to use both Caps and bold. I'm sure you are more than capable of corresponding with them. But after all that won't give you the opportunity to interact with me again will it? Nor will it allow you scope to speculate and hypothesize. Just answers.

 

[crocodile og]

Croc I think you are confused

@crocodile og I suggest you read the book The 15 ounce pound...I'm sure you can fin it free online....Quick read and gives a much better insight..

Yes I am confused. The mistake that I made was overestimating your appreciation of fact based evidence and your capacity for deductive reasoning not to mention your rampant confirmation bias

You see the primary source you are relying on is based on hearsay. That is opinion without fact.

Your main "evidence" is coming from some one who has no way of proving their claims whatsoever. Relying on "first hand accounts" is not sufficient. I've read first hand accounts of people that have seen sasquatch, the loch ness monster and have been abducted by aliens. Without any supporting verifiable proof their accounts are worthless.

In fact the author you so highly regard has had his articles retracted, been debunked as a trustworthy source of information and exposed as he himself being a snitch and collaborator with the US DEA.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=199373&highlight=marco+renda

So we still have matters otstanding for you to account for. That is a link to

1. A verifiable independent source that Watson/Skunkman is DEA.

2. The "Monsanto conference" video or transcript.

3. The patent number for "terminator" cannabis.

4. Rob (not Richard ) Clarke's role in these matters.

5. The names of any of the previous applicants for any permits that they applied for to research or cultivate cannabis in Holland or UK and the reasons they were denied.

6. Why the DEA would allow a permit for medical product development in UK if they themselves have been on the record as stating cannabis has no medical benefit?

You need to answer each and everyone of those points to be taken seriously as you were the one to make them. If you can't then you can't rely on that point/s and makes your position untenable.

Just to help you because I know research isn't your strong point here's a few links to help you:



https://www.gov.uk/controlled-drugs-licences-fees-and-returns

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GW_Pharmaceuticals



Now I don't really expect you to come back with any credible answers. Based on your previous postings of elaborate theories based on fragile anecdotal evidence. But I am giving you the benefit of the doubt you must admit. And I am waiting to see what non sequitur logic you use to twist and manipulate the shakey and unproven rumours into a semi coherent reply.

 

[DANKeschön]

Oh but you did bring up the conspiracy angle.

However I'm glad that we are now both in agreement that there is no conspiracy. It took you a little while to come round but thank you anyway.

NOPE! YOU just labeled it a conspiracy, not me!.... but I'm glad you FINALLY agree it's not!;)

Now I very much appreciate the assumption importance you bestow upon me. I'm flattered. Really. But I'm only able to share what is available in the public domain. Maybe you can have someone teach you how to use google or a similar search engine. That's how I found that link.
.

Yeah, well I found the more current link!

.... and I figured since you're an Aussie and I'm not, you might know something, but you don't.

Now if you have an enquiry to any discrepancy about their website or company structure you can email them yourself. After all you do know how to use both Caps and bold. I'm sure you are more than capable of corresponding with them.

Well sure, anyone can email AusCann as long as they're willing to give up their name and email addy to possible nevil FANBOYS looking for revenge.

I'm not stupid!

But I might feel comfortable emailing the reporters who wrote the 'nevil comeback' story asking for an update!;)

...that won't give you the opportunity to interact with me again will it? Nor will it allow you scope to speculate and hypothesize. Just answers.

Hey, I can still speculate AND hypothesize!

..... and right now I can see 2 possibilities:
1. nevil is no longer with AusCann
2. nevil is still with AusCann but the company no longer sees him as an asset in terms of advertising or pushing their agenda.

So now we can still have the opportunity to interact Crock, I STILL LUV YA BABEE!:D




.... no, honest, I do!:mooning: