Mars Hydro Led Grow Light Family

[BeglianHaze]

I have the Mars2 400w panels. Each panel is in the 160-180w range actual draw so I just rounded to 350w actual draw. If these things ran very cool I could see the benefit but if I have to use climate controls and sacrifice yield I don't see the point.

Hello,

i Think the yeld depends how experience you have with the led lights,growing and growing will improve ur skills.
the opinion of the grow shop man near my home is that led light can produce a little more than HPS, but in my opinion quality change a lot.
depends all by tent room,venitlation and temperature...and good seed, sure

 

[MarsG]

LED grow light as a new tech in recent years, it brings a lot of discussions. No matter praises or complaints, we all accpet... That's why I'm here, not only for marketing, also for getting the real feedbacks and develop our light. COB came up not long time ago, we never refuse to read news and upgrade our product, so we are doing it now, Mar Pro series is using COB.:)

 

[MarsG]

i pray to the sun gods everyday View attachment 536352 View attachment 536353

It reminds me of an incident I've met when I was in Italy 2 months ago:eek: :D My friend was growing 3 plants in his balcony, and one afternoon his mom called him and said" Right now a helicopter is flying so low above our house!!" He just ran home and destroyed all his cute plants...:eek::eek: I was there, felt soo pityful..... Italian police was so strict about weed during july, everyone was freaked out.

 

[MarsG]

I have realized most of the members here are experts of growing

...and everyone of course are experts of English :P

Guys you know how long I spent to read everyone's comment? I felt me back to school doing English reading comprehension:p hahahaha, but of course much more interesting than school test...I have been stucked with some slang words:oops: But luckily I have understood. Who said English is the easiest language in the world? NOOO

I'm so happy to see all of you here

 

[BeglianHaze]

Hello G,

don't worry, i'm from Europe,so in my country we don't speak english everyday :)
forum it's also a good way to improve our english skills :)...and grow skills !

 

[eastcoastjoe]

Hello,

i Think the yeld depends how experience you have with the led lights,growing and growing will improve ur skills.
the opinion of the grow shop man near my home is that led light can produce a little more than HPS, but in my opinion quality change a lot.
depends all by tent room,venitlation and temperature...and good seed, sure

I have been using LED since there first release of the UFO with 1w chips. I have owned at least 5 different panels from then until now, and no way has any of them been close. The Mars2 is definitely the better one I tried to date but it still can not replace HPS , let alone yield better. I can't speak for the expensive panels with cree Diodes but from what I've used to date there's no way.

This is all my experience and not what I think or heard From someone. I would do your own research and only believe what you see With your own eyes and not what a salesman at a grow shop thinks. You know what his number one agenda is right ?

 

[DrFever]

wait a sec man,your pulling 4 pounds per lamp dry?why would you want to change a thing,i think you have the record now so stick with it lmao.
look here i dont wanna get into your yileds on hid but you def have high expectations lol,i run almsot the same size room,12 x 20 x 9.5 but im really only using about 10 x 18 and i run 12 kw of lights in there,so you wanna see bright hahaha.anyways,i have the mars 2 1600w panel,it draws approx 765w and i do not think it will keep up with a 1000w hid.it seems to be real close to my 600hps in a cool tube but not nearly as good as my gavita 750w.plus these run hot so the cooling savings is minimal imo.

but like i said if you pull 8 lbs dry from 2k hid dont bother with led.

Hey 6 string that run i did where i pulled just under 8 pounds was a one time fluke thing i have never matched it since Afghanistan strain and have tried numerous times lol this is not my fist BBQ growing there buddy , i go way back and pull very respectable numbers under 1000's with multiple rooms and using shit load of power total rooms when i went hard just under 20,000 watts and a shit load of plants dayum i remember one time where i had just under 10,000 clones or got offered 130,000 cash to make 100,000 clones but as we get older and after some really close calls
And seeing very close friends going down getting busted or what have you ,, And extradited into another country an so on becomes allot more serious the growing and harvesting every 3 months etc etc mean one thing is growing weed other is money laundering charges and 100 kilo charges that comes with it :) ,, it was close call for me 6 string i mean very close were actual DEA in cooperation with our local LEO had me under surveillance with a warrant to enter premises and also told me to leave so packed up and left lol
So with all that said i lowered power to max 3 k and only 12 plants and still bang of 7 3/4 pounds from 12 plants :) anyways all good got better chances of fighting it as personal and take small time jail rather then any other charge they will give you charge they give you being drug gang related , money laundering etc
so with that said i always was interested in LED . if i can lower my imprint on power and achieve close to same results then all is good right

 

[DemonTrich]

so anyone running this 1200w led light? OP gave me a decent price and I might pull the trigger on one and do a side by side. but don't think I can give a true side by side review as I run 3x600's in flower. if I stick it in the middle both edges would be getting hps side lighting, and the same would happen if I put the led on either side.

 

[DrFever]

only true tests would be in 2 different rooms ,, same strain same nutrients and identical feeding etc etc this way you would know for sure what is what rather then having HPS over lap LED and LED over lap HPS grow i am also in conversation with mars on the 256 cree unit still need some info as to what they are comparing this unit as to HPS equivalent

 

[DemonTrich]

sorry, 2 rooms is out of the question. I just built my 8x12x7 about a yr ago and definitely not in the mood to build another one.

 

[eastcoastjoe]

so anyone running this 1200w led light? OP gave me a decent price and I might pull the trigger on one and do a side by side. but don't think I can give a true side by side review as I run 3x600's in flower. if I stick it in the middle both edges would be getting hps side lighting, and the same would happen if I put the led on either side.

Jeremy @ buildasoil uses the 1600w in a 4x4 tent. His stuff looks pretty nice, if your on Instagram follow him and check out his pictures.

 

[MarsG]

Jeremy @ buildasoil uses the 1600w in a 4x4 tent. His stuff looks pretty nice, if your on Instagram follow him and check out his pictures.

yeah, Jeremy is a great grower

I've seen so many nice pics from him, happy he is using our Mars II 1600W

 

[3N1GM4]

Im running a 1200 but it is a cob and not the brand in this discussion. I do want one of these, I am just wondering what the lumen of the mars hydro is compared to a cob grow light of equal wattage?

 

[MarsG]

Hey 6 string that run i did where i pulled just under 8 pounds was a one time fluke thing i have never matched it since Afghanistan strain and have tried numerous times lol this is not my fist BBQ growing there buddy , i go way back and pull very respectable numbers under 1000's with multiple rooms and using shit load of power total rooms when i went hard just under 20,000 watts and a shit load of plants dayum i remember one time where i had just under 10,000 clones or got offered 130,000 cash to make 100,000 clones but as we get older and after some really close calls
And seeing very close friends going down getting busted or what have you ,, And extradited into another country an so on becomes allot more serious the growing and harvesting every 3 months etc etc mean one thing is growing weed other is money laundering charges and 100 kilo charges that comes with it :) ,, it was close call for me 6 string i mean very close were actual DEA in cooperation with our local LEO had me under surveillance with a warrant to enter premises and also told me to leave so packed up and left lol
So with all that said i lowered power to max 3 k and only 12 plants and still bang of 7 3/4 pounds from 12 plants :) anyways all good got better chances of fighting it as personal and take small time jail rather then any other charge they will give you charge they give you being drug gang related , money laundering etc
so with that said i always was interested in LED . if i can lower my imprint on power and achieve close to same results then all is good right View attachment 536481 View attachment 536482 View attachment 536483 View attachment 536484

Wow those are massive...

I think "quantity" or "how it looks" shouldn't be the most essential standards to judge result is good or bad, @eastcoastjoe I can see Joe is kinda disappointed about the grow result with LED, but many people have used LED for long time and they told me the flower in fact can be more dense and even taste better comparing with growing by HPS. :) HMMM I think tt's a very personal preference to choose HPS or LED, it's true, sometimes when we are used to something or even someone, it's hard to change, not because the thing or the person is the best, but just because we are used to. LED came up in market not long time, but I believe most people can see LED is still the future, or higher tech than LED, only can be LED+, tech can't go back. That's why LED field got so many fans till now, and most those fans just choosed to switch from HPS, they have compared, so they made the decision.:)

 

[Ned Kelly]

Just to throw my 2 cents worth in . In veg straight led rocks . in flower i supplement my mars11 900w with 2 250w hps each side . the combo of these is just like sunlight honestly its like your on the beach . Quality quantity all come in . yes youll scrape some extra grams out of hps , but wth led the buds are supper tight and the plants just stay healthier witch to me means stronger smoke .

following on from that if i had the $ for a good true 1000 w led . im sure it would kick hps bum . better spectrum's plants like the light better . killer tight nugs . Happy days .

 

[MarsG]

Im running a 1200 but it is a cob and not the brand in this discussion. I do want one of these, I am just wondering what the lumen of the mars hydro is compared to a cob grow light of equal wattage?

Don't worry if you are not using our brand, this is an open thread! :)

For Mars II 1200W, draw power is 552W, this is the reference total lumen for "veg""bloom" both lights on.

Mars II 1200W 120V: Flux is around 25015 lm
240V: Flux is around 24966 lm

But Lumen is just one of the important datas to consider about :)

In the pics, you may see which integrating sphere we use to test lumen, and have a look of our spectrum test of Mars II 1200W

Spectrum test with 120V:

Spectrum test with 240V:

 

[MarsG]

Just to throw my 2 cents worth in . In veg straight led rocks . in flower i supplement my mars11 900w with 2 250w hps each side . the combo of these is just like sunlight honestly its like your on the beach . Quality quantity all come in . yes youll scrape some extra grams out of hps , but wth led the buds are supper tight and the plants just stay healthier witch to me means stronger smoke .

following on from that if i had the $ for a good true 1000 w led . im sure it would kick hps bum . better spectrum's plants like the light better . killer tight nugs . Happy days .

Hi Ned Kelly, I can see you are happy of your grow result

yeah sometimes people complain the flower is smaller comparing with HPS, or harvest less than HPS, but I have smoked it (I don't grow, but I love to smoke it) , It's not hard to pick out the one which is grown by LED, no matter by appearance or the taste. And yeah usually growers will supplement other lights to combo when its flowering, it's a very common and smart measure.

Haha I'm imagining how will the LED with draw power 1000W look like, or it will be super expensive with lots of Cree chips, or it will be with more than 400 other brands chips, with massive size and tough weight, not an easy thing... But let's keep our eyes open in the future, I believe there will be one light come up to satisfy more requirments;);)

 

[sixstring]

Hey 6 string that run i did where i pulled just under 8 pounds was a one time fluke thing i have never matched it since Afghanistan strain and have tried numerous times lol this is not my fist BBQ growing there buddy , i go way back and pull very respectable numbers under 1000's with multiple rooms and using shit load of power total rooms when i went hard just under 20,000 watts and a shit load of plants dayum i remember one time where i had just under 10,000 clones or got offered 130,000 cash to make 100,000 clones but as we get older and after some really close calls
And seeing very close friends going down getting busted or what have you ,, And extradited into another country an so on becomes allot more serious the growing and harvesting every 3 months etc etc mean one thing is growing weed other is money laundering charges and 100 kilo charges that comes with it :) ,, it was close call for me 6 string i mean very close were actual DEA in cooperation with our local LEO had me under surveillance with a warrant to enter premises and also told me to leave so packed up and left lol
So with all that said i lowered power to max 3 k and only 12 plants and still bang of 7 3/4 pounds from 12 plants :) anyways all good got better chances of fighting it as personal and take small time jail rather then any other charge they will give you charge they give you being drug gang related , money laundering etc
so with that said i always was interested in LED . if i can lower my imprint on power and achieve close to same results then all is good right View attachment 536481 View attachment 536482 View attachment 536483 View attachment 536484

welp i dont know what to tell you other than my 1600w led is about the same as a 600hps with maybe a tad less heat.thats with my limited exp using this panel but im def not ready to go out and buy a bunch more lol.if you want to drop your power bill and footprint go for the gavita 6/750 flex and run it at 750 to 800w.i have 5 hanging and i swear they aint no hotter than my 600w but they put out way more light,waaaay more lol.the 750 will be as bright as a traditional 1000w in a hood imo.
@DemonTrich you could always just put up a curtain anywhere in your room to compare lights.
im gunna keep running this light and try to dial in my plants to it,they seem to want a bit more food under led from what i have seen so far.but the nugs i pulled so far are super frosty and dense as hell

 

[BeglianHaze]

Hello guys,
i need a little help with this 2 autoflowering seeds from delicious seeds (Spanish brand) under a mars hydro II 400w
now it is around 8 days,i've let it germinate in water and moved in soil when the first little root was coming out.
do you think i can start to fertilize it?i will use biobuzz products.
do you think it's too small?maybe the distance from the led is too much?
i'll wait your suggestions

 

[DemonTrich]

I have a "student" im helping with his first grow. hes running a glue clone he got from me under his LED light. his glue is at week 7 im at week 5. my week 5 glue under hps is blowing his week 7 out of the water. I know hes a newbie, but ive walked him thru just about every step since he got the clone. his does look nice, but the yield looks so so. his temps are good, feedings are good (he is using technaflora nutes like me, soil like me, same pot sizes, ect.). he basically emulated my grow but he uses led not hps. he is under 3x led lamps, im under 3x600. im going to give him (let him borrow) a 600w setup (w/new bulb) to run next time to see the difference in in hps vs his led setup.