how much are dispensaries paying for a pound?

[CannaBidz]

I live in the High Desert in Southern California, We have never had much water, but it seems like so far this year we have had more rain than I remember having in any of the last 20 years that we have been stuck in this hell... We all use well water out here and our wells are several hundred feet deep... if they ever go dry we are in for a world of hurt.. I see the Lake and river levels dropping fast in Nor Cal, So Like Bulldog 11 said maybe they are purposely dropping the water levels not only to charge more but also to create a fake emergency situation. When you create a fake emergency your state is eligible for Billions of dollars in natural disaster re-leaf from the Feds ... Just a coincidence maybe...But I would not put it past Jerry Brown to pull some shit like that...

Sorry I know this post was a little off the topic of this thread.. But in San Bernardino County we have a ban on Store front Dispensary's I don't know how much they are really paying for a pound, because we don't have any... it is nice to hear how much everybody else is paying, Maybe with the new Reg's in place here in Cali San Berdoo will finally drop the Store front ban... keep your fingers crossed for us !!!

 

[Seamaiden]

I wonder how far you are from my folks. They're in YV.

We're on a well. Our neighbors are on wells. Our neighbors' wells are shallower than ours. Our neighbors' wells are running dry. Made up so the water company we don't get water from can charge us more? I don't think so.

 

[Blaze]

Same here in Mendo - we are on our own self sufficientwater supplies in this county, and they have been running out. Fort Bragg actually ran out of water at the end of this year, and a lot of people's wells and springs have been drying up. Has nothing to do with some conspiracy - it has to do with an unprecedented and epic drought that has affected the entire state.

 

[CannaBidz]

Hi Seamaiden,
We are in Lucerne, YV is only about a 20 min drive from here
I have heard about peoples wells going dry in the surrounding areas, but the few I have heard about had very shallow wells less than a hundred feet, which is still really scary, for the rest of us because if it really is that far down we are already in trouble...

 

[MushinNoShin]

Although the rains have been nice, I don't think it even makes a dent (but then again; I'm no meteorologist). I read that we need 11 trillion gallons of water to get back to... Normal (for lack of a better word).

https://www.nasa.gov/press/2014/dec...llons-to-replenish-california-drought-losses/

 

[Blaze]

Every bit helps but the recent rains have not had much impact on the drought. We would need several abnormally wet winters just to get back to "normal".

 

[Seamaiden]

Hi Seamaiden,
We are in Lucerne, YV is only about a 20 min drive from here
I have heard about peoples wells going dry in the surrounding areas, but the few I have heard about had very shallow wells less than a hundred feet, which is still really scary, for the rest of us because if it really is that far down we are already in trouble...

Yes, as I understand it the aquifers down in those deserts are HUGE and deep.

I know exactly where you are! May have to meet up next time I go see my folks, I drive right through Lucerne coming south from the Sierra here, even if I go down 395 instead of 99. Still gotta head east!

 

[CannaBidz]

your welcome to stop by anytime, I will PM you my contact info, as soon as I figure out how ...lol

 

[Bulldog11]

I love this water talk, "people's wells are drying up, our neighbors, and so on." Look at wells state wide. They are not drying up at a faster rate than normal. Wells dry up even in wet decades. Facts are facts, and the drought is officially over with current rain and snow levels. The hysteria can now come to an end.

Every bit helps but the recent rains have not had much impact on the drought. We would need several abnormally wet winters just to get back to "normal".

You need to check up the definition of drought, because the recent rain and snow fall means exactly that, the drought is over. If you want to say our reservoirs are still low, that is anther thing all together, however drought by definition is over.

drought
drout/
noun

1. a prolonged period of abnormally low rainfall; a shortage of water resulting from this.
   synonyms: dry spell, lack of rain, shortage of water
   "this year's drought was devastating to cotton growers"

 

[Bull Trout]

I think it will be a bit before the drought is over...

 

[markscastle]

Sorry I go out to Oroville lake all the time and it is as low as I`ve see it in my life time. The streams are running very low that feed it and I`ve see springs and wells a plenty run dry last Oct. Butte County has the second highest amount of dry wells in the state , not the norm here at all. Now the water has continued to flow but the sources are running way lower and could run out. It has helped with the rain and snow pack this year, but not enough . The lakes are still not up near to the highest mark reached last winter and although we have the start of a snow pack this year it won`t come close to what we will be needing. Still even though there is no conspiracy management is clearly to blame for much of our water distribution problems. Yes much of our water runs into the sea, but it always has. The water collection and distribution system we have needs to be re- worked to collect much more of it so we people and animals can have enough saved up to weather any droughts that come along. We also need to be able to replace water storage underground better so wells don`t dry up! In enchant times the valley was a lake , now we hold up water in dams and drain the water off in the valley on top of drilling for water in the valleys for agriculture and human needs. The underground water storage seems vast until continued drought happens. We forget it was first filled when the valley was nothing but a lake in the winter and a bog the rest of the year.

 

[Blaze]

I love this water talk, "people's wells are drying up, our neighbors, and so on." Look at wells state wide. They are not drying up at a faster rate than normal. Wells dry up even in wet decades. Facts are facts, and the drought is officially over with current rain and snow levels. The hysteria can now come to an end.



You need to check up the definition of drought, because the recent rain and snow fall means exactly that, the drought is over. If you want to say our reservoirs are still low, that is anther thing all together, however drought by definition is over.

drought
drout/
noun

1. a prolonged period of abnormally low rainfall; a shortage of water resulting from this.
   synonyms: dry spell, lack of rain, shortage of water
   "this year's drought was devastating to cotton growers"

Funny, that is not at all what the data from the USGS, the United State Drought Monitor, The Governor's Office of Emergency Services, the California Department of Food & Argiculture, the State Water Board, the California Department of Water Resources, NASA, UC Davis, and literally any other verifiable source is saying. Not to mention the thousands of farmers and ranchers that keep their own records of rainfall and water output on their wells and springs. It is obvious to anyone involved in agriculture or on their own sources of water that we are still in a drought. You opinion is 100% dead wrong and in no way based on any evidence what-so-ever.

Pointing out that we still have a problem is not being "hysterical", it is being realistic. Sticking your head in the sand to ignore a blatantly obvious problem is not going to make it go away. Furthermore, a single storm system does not sufficiently recharge even the most shallow wells and springs. Sustained rainfall over a long period of time is required. Deeper reservoirs take years, even decades or centuries to recharge. This is basic hydrology, read up on it more if you do not believe me.

 

[markscastle]

It may also be that the drought has had little effect in his area yet ? Not everyone is running out of water but it is a problem in far to many places.

 

[Herb Forester]

How long til you guys think Californians will demand some of that huge volume being dumped into the pacific for 'conservation' purposes?

 

[Bulldog11]

Pointing out that we still have a problem is not being "hysterical", it is being realistic.

Sorry if you thought I was talking about you being hysterical. I was talking about some of the more absurd headlines over the year....... For example:

California drought could wipe wities off the map
http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2015...-wipe-cities-off-map-if-their-water-runs-out/

California has one year of water left
http://www.newsweek.com/nasa-california-has-one-year-water-left-313647

Pure Hysteria

Now you have the mass media training you guys to believe no amount of rain could ever end this drought:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/21/california-rain-drought_n_6201744.html


Also guys, I am not claiming conspiracy. I know the people that work the water systems in my county. Right now, at this minute, Lake Malones is empty, and back to it's river state. I drove over about a week ago, and the water was noticeably higher. Then about 2 days ago, I drove across again and the water was rushing.....Why would water in a reservoir rush if it wasn't being let out the other side?

Same with Pinecrest. That is where most of the water in my county comes from. They had a big public meeting about the water and decided to drain the lake for hydro electric power. In the meeting, they stated buying fuel would be cheaper, yet they are still draining the lake.

Does this sound like actions of people that are concerned about water? Just look at your local situation, and find out the politics in the matter. You guys will start the see the corruption involved in controlling the available water. If you need further evidence, look to the fact that you can't dam up any water on your property, you need a permit to collect rain water (see how many of those are given out) metering wells, ext. Control, Control , Control.

Yes we have had short rain fall, yes we WERE in a drought. However these local governments and water companies are using this drought to their advantage by upping peoples rates, even after they cut back on water usage. It's clear as day, and happening across the state. Everybody knows it.

 

[Seamaiden]

your welcome to stop by anytime, I will PM you my contact info, as soon as I figure out how ...lol

Click on my username, a box should pop up. Then click "start a conversation." It took me a full minute to figure it out, too!

 

[liketosmoke]

I know we are off topic but hear is new good news on the drought.

State surveyors in the Sierra Nevada delivered some welcome news on Wednesday amid California's worst drought in more than a century: The snowpack is well above average for this time of year.
In an anxiously watched rite of winter, state Department of Water Resources surveyor Frank Gehrke weighed a tube of snow at Echo Summit and found it held 16.3 inches of water, about 136 percent of the historical average for the site. To get to the site, he trudged through snow more than 4.5 feet deep -- about 1.5 feet deeper than average.
http://www.mercurynews.com/drought/ci_29326394/sierra-snowpack-136-percent-normal?source=autofeed#

 

[geologic]

I love this water talk, "people's wells are drying up, our neighbors, and so on." Look at wells state wide. They are not drying up at a faster rate than normal. Wells dry up even in wet decades. Facts are facts, and the drought is officially over with current rain and snow levels. The hysteria can now come to an end.

You need to check up the definition of drought, because the recent rain and snow fall means exactly that, the drought is over. If you want to say our reservoirs are still low, that is anther thing all together, however drought by definition is over.

drought
drout/
noun

1. a prolonged period of abnormally low rainfall; a shortage of water resulting from this.
   synonyms: dry spell, lack of rain, shortage of water
   "this year's drought was devastating to cotton growers"

> You need to check up the definition of drought,

< State of California Definition of Drought:

There are many ways that drought can be defined. Some ways can
be quantified, such as meteorological drought (period of below
normal precipitation) or hydrologic drought (period of below average
runoff), others are more qualitative in nature (shortage of water
for a particular purpose). There is no universal definition of when
a drought begins or ends. Drought is a gradual phenomenon.
Impacts of drought are typically felt first by those most dependent on annual rainfall, such as ranchers engaged in dryland grazing or rural residents relying on wells in low-yield rock formations. Drought impacts increase with the length of a drought, as carry-over supplies in reservoirs are depleted and water levels in ground water basins decline. Hydrologic impacts of drought to water agencies may be exacerbated by other factors such as regulatory requirements to protect environmental resources or to satisfy the rights of senior water right holders.
From a water use perspective, drought is best defined by its impacts to a particular class of water users in a particular location. In this sense, drought is a very local circumstance. hydrologic conditions constituting a drought for water users in one location may not constitute a drought for water users in a different part of the state or with a different water supply. California’s extensive system of water supply infrastructure— reservoirs, managed groundwater basins, and inter-regional conveyance facilities—mitigates the effect of short-term (single year) dry periods. Individual water suppliers may use criteria such as rainfall/runoff, amount of water in storage, decline in groundwater levels, or expected supply from a water wholesaler to define their water supply conditions.
Criteria used to identify statewide drought conditions—such as statewide runoff and reservoir storage—do not address these localized circumstances. And although California’s water supply infrastructure provides a means to mitigate impacts for some water users, other types of impacts (increased wildfire risk, stress on vegetation and wildlife) remain.

 

[MushinNoShin]

There is a big sign on my street that says "Drought Status: Urgent - Do Not Water" (not verbatim).
Usually it says something like; "good job! Keep conserving water!"

 

[Bulldog11]

@geologic You know your definition is bogus when it comes from the state of California and has 10,000 words to define it. Another words, bureaucratic B.S. I will stick with the universal, used by all people of the world, definition. Thanks for the post though.

There is a big sign on my street that says "Drought Status: Urgent - Do Not Water" (not verbatim).
Usually it says something like; "good job! Keep conserving water!"

Yea, same sign next to the hydro electric plant that is using up more water than every resident in the county........At a higher cost than burning fuel.............

There are also lots of "chains required" signs along the highway..... You don't think people should stop in the summer and put on chains do you?