First Time Legal

[RedEyeBallz]

Hey man, you've got a beautiful place. I have big trees throwing shade until 10:30 right now. No way am I gonna cut anything down. I get plenty of direct sun until sun down. Wish the shade was reversed, shady in very hot afternoon, but it is what it is.
I believe you could have benefitted from topping your plants and then pinching off growth tips to promote lateral growth. Your plants are stretching due to amount of light, bending your tops like you did isn't what caused stretch, Mho. Great video. I tried one but I was too shaky.

Topping your plants @GreenHouser would have done wonders for your garden.... Bushier plants/space utilization, more tops/bigger harvest....

 

[GreenHouser]

I was reading something about that....beneficial microbes.... Azomite or something like that. Azos??? If you're amending your own soil, it would be bone/blood meal, work castings and along with other ingredients.

azomite, humic acid, bone, blood, meal, guano, castings, pro mix, salt, lime, lil fish, lil seaweed, cook, that's what I did, I had a 3 inch layer of web after 30 days on top of it in my 55gallaon drums

 

[GreenHouser]

Topping your plants @GreenHouser would have done wonders for your garden.... Bushier plants/space utilization, more tops/bigger harvest....

not skilled yet.

 

[RedEyeBallz]

not skilled yet.

YouTube it.... I've watched so many YouTube videos on growing it's like I can damn near predict what their about to say.

 

[RedEyeBallz]

azomite, humic acid, bone, blood, meal, guano, castings, pro mix, salt, lime, lil fish, lil seaweed, cook, that's what I did, I had a 3 inch layer of web after 30 days on top of it in my 55gallaon drums

Salt? Lime? Can I get a more specific recipe from you. I would like to try and do my own soil mix.

 

[Ecompost]

I was reading something about that....beneficial microbes.... Azomite or something like that. Azos??? If you're amending your own soil, it would be bone/blood meal, work castings and along with other ingredients.

Microbes are not the same as those inputs mate. Dont worry we can help you understand.

So Azomite is a form of mineral rock dust, may be volcanic, anyway its all those things people call micros and trace elements, examples being Calcium, Magnesium, Copper, Zinc. Minerals are really bits of metals for example, which we find in rocks, clays, in sand particles etc.
Microbes are living organisms, they feed from the minerals in Azomite for example, when they feed they convert what is a non plant ready mineral element such as magnesium hanging about in soils, in to magnesium ions, or magnesium with an amino acid, once its an ion, it can be taking up via the roots of our plants.
Now blood, bone, kelp, crustacean meal etc and worm castings, these are all organic inputs, these materials contains all the growth elements our plants need, eg Nitrogen, Phosphates, Potassium, but we need microbes to converts this big material, in to tiny bits a plant can manage.
Worm casts are an exception in your list being slightly different in that they are already plant active and they also contain millions of microbes that have and are busy converting minerals and organics, in to food for themselves and plants.
In the wild, we have microbes that have evolved to live in local conditions with local flora. We can collect this indigenous microbes to use in our own gardens, but this takes some skill and knowledge to collect good microbes and not bad, its not difficult to learn however

 

[BudBogart]

not skilled yet.

You have done a great job so far for you first grow. You are obviously picking up skills as you grow. Can't ask for more.

 

[RedEyeBallz]

Microbes are not the same as those inputs mate. Dont worry we can help you understand.

So Azomite is a form of mineral rock dust, may be volcanic, anyway its all those things people call micros and trace elements, examples being Calcium, Magnesium, Copper, Zinc. Minerals are really bits of metals for example, which we find in rocks, clays, in sand particles etc.
Microbes are living organisms, they feed from the minerals in Azomite for example, when they feed they convert what is a non plant ready mineral element such as magnesium hanging about in soils, in to magnesium ions, or magnesium with an amino acid, once its an ion, it can be taking up via the roots of our plants.
Now blood, bone, kelp, crustacean meal etc and worm castings, these are all organic inputs, these materials contains all the growth elements our plants need, eg Nitrogen, Phosphates, Potassium, but we need microbes to converts this big material, in to tiny bits a plant can manage.
Worm casts are an exception in your list being slightly different in that they are already plant active and they also contain millions of microbes that have and are busy converting minerals and organics, in to food for themselves and plants.
In the wild, we have microbes that have evolved to live in local conditions with local flora. We can collect this indigenous microbes to use in our own gardens, but this takes some skill and knowledge to collect good microbes and not bad, its not difficult to learn however

Well effin A.... That was a good quick lesson. And sounds really involved. So what do I use to feed these...fungi???, so they can make these macro/micro nutes available? Btw,I did just read another thread last night saying the the same thing you did

 

[Ecompost]

You have done a great job so far for you first grow. You are obviously picking up skills as you grow. Can't ask for more.

he's a canny bright human, he will do well, he also has love for nature more widely, this helps lots :-)

 

[Ecompost]

Well effin A.... That was a good quick lesson. And sounds really involved. So what do I use to feed these...fungi???, so they can make these macro/micro nutes available? Btw,I did just read another thread last night saying the the same thing you did

yes, OK so first you need the fungus, these being Glomus Intrardices primarily as a Mycorrhiza, this will form a root associative relationship with your plant, extending its own ability to reach and source nutrients, air and water; Trichoderma, this is a growth and bio control fungus family called a DSE. Next you might want yeast fungus and soil molds.

Feeding them is easy, they live of decaying stuff, eg dead insects, animal shit, dead plants, old roots, and of course they mine certain elements directly from the soil its rocks, pebbles, clays etc to feed themselves. They predate other organisms, they predate plants, it all depends what you are looking to grow and why and what types of fungus you have locally, or can buy.
We can brew compost teas, and if the base material has fungus, then we can grow said fungus in the tea with Kelp meal for example, or other simple starch like Oats., Bran, Barley

 

[RedEyeBallz]

yes, OK so first you need the fungus, these being Glomus Intrardices primarily as a Mycorrhiza, this will form a root associative relationship with your plant, extending its own ability to reach and source nutrients, air and water; Trichoderma, this is a growth and bio control fungus family called a DSE. Next you might want yeast fungus and soil molds.

Feeding them is easy, they live of decaying stuff, eg dead insects, animal shit, dead plants, old roots, and of course they mine certain elements directly from the soil its rocks, pebbles, clays etc to feed themselves. They predate other organisms, they predate plants, it all depends what you are looking to grow and why and what types of fungus you have locally, or can buy.
We can brew compost teas, and if the base material has fungus, then we can grow said fungus in the tea with Kelp meal for example, or other simple starch like Oats., Bran, Barley

Sounds simple enough, I've heard of the mycorrhiza before. I'll have to do more research. can that relationship be built in coco coir?

 

[Ecompost]

Sounds simple enough, I've heard of the mycorrhiza before. I'll have to do more research. can that relationship be built in coco coir?

yes sir it can, most coco is pre treated with trichoderma both to suppress common root rots associated with damp warm coco and as a beneficial N fixer. If you grow in coco I highly recommend adding pseudomonas fluorescens and bacillus amyloliquefaciens too as a base microbe list

 

[oldskol4evr]

yes sir it can, most coco is pre treated with trichoderma both to suppress common root rots associated with damp warm coco and as a beneficial N fixer. If you grow in coco I highly recommend adding pseudomonas fluorescens and bacillus amyloliquefaciens too as a base microbe list

eco when i built and cooked my soil,,as you know i used kelp 4 less minerals,,will this hurt my box feeds,i need to amend some rock dust in to

 

[RedEyeBallz]

yes sir it can, most coco is pre treated with trichoderma both to suppress common root rots associated with damp warm coco and as a beneficial N fixer. If you grow in coco I highly recommend adding pseudomonas fluorescens and bacillus amyloliquefaciens too as a base microbe list

Thanks alot brother.I really appreciate that. I'm gonna def try it. Maybe put a side by side with and w/o grow and put it in YouTube....And thcfarmer of course.

 

[Ecompost]

eco when i built and cooked my soil,,as you know i used kelp 4 less minerals,,will this hurt my box feeds,i need to amend some rock dust in to

no mate, so long as you dont go too hard, small bits will work better, you need to keep some N in anyway mate or none of that K4less stuff will get decayed right. This is why I say I will always exist, even with the system being that client will reduce what they buy, they will always need N from somewhere. It not practical to plant many legumes in a cupboard under the stairs of your moms house right LOL...tell that to blaze

 

[Ecompost]

no mate, so long as you dont go too hard, small bits will work better, you need to keep some N in anyway mate or none of that K4less stuff will get decayed right. This is why I say I will always exist, even with the system being that client will reduce what they buy, they will always need N from somewhere. It not practical to plant many legumes in a cupboard under the stairs of your moms house right LOL...tell that to blaze

eco when i built and cooked my soil,,as you know i used kelp 4 less minerals,,will this hurt my box feeds,i need to amend some rock dust in to

added, if you got high Organic media, just use iNititate to keep the N in and KAMINO to keep the plant metrics happy and replace losses biologically

 

[Ecompost]

eco when i built and cooked my soil,,as you know i used kelp 4 less minerals,,will this hurt my box feeds,i need to amend some rock dust in to

I sent you some Bio Balance? If yes you can use this as a bloom nute in high organic media mate, if you got lots of N and P, then you can use BBM to deliver K and S etc plus the micros

 

[oldskol4evr]

no mate, so long as you dont go too hard, small bits will work better, you need to keep some N in anyway mate or none of that K4less stuff will get decayed right. This is why I say I will always exist, even with the system being that client will reduce what they buy, they will always need N from somewhere. It not practical to plant many legumes in a cupboard under the stairs of your moms house right LOL...tell that to blaze

no bro its cooked into the soil,its just a starter for soil and even with it,im getting end rot on tomato,i do want to amend some glacial rock dust into all my boxes for a little help on the cal mag side,,would rather my soil provide it,other than watering in

 

[GreenHouser]

Salt? Lime? Can I get a more specific recipe from you. I would like to try and do my own soil mix.

some will argue, I used subcools super soil recipe, n went from there. Proof, pudding thing as @str8smokn would say.

 

[GreenHouser]

Thanks alot brother.I really appreciate that. I'm gonna def try it. Maybe put a side by side with and w/o grow and put it in YouTube....And thcfarmer of course.

STEPHEN FREAKIN HAWKING