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and I have a belly button. just thought I'd shake it up a bit :happy:Both of you have great perspectives
dont alot of greenhouses usually use amended soils like ffof?
and I have a belly button. just thought I'd shake it up a bit :happy:Both of you have great perspectives
Took a look on the thread, looks like there is some good talk going on. The only thing that I see over and over that concerns me is the Bloom Khaos questions, and I think the thread should know that the Khaos is a calcium facilitator. When using the khaos, having calcium phosphate and calcium bicarbonate available to plants is extremely important. Mixing the khaos with any salts will tie up the calcium and make it less available. The best balance to driving the khaos is increasing the Herculean Harvest at the same time as increasing the khaos. Those two go hand in hand for flower development and overall weight. When Khaos is sprayed under the foliage, it triggers the plants want for calcium for cell development and cell division. When these two products are in balance, it enhance the stage the plant is currently in. In Veg it promotes tighter inter nodal spacing, branching and over all health. In the flowering stage it promotes harder flowers, heavier weight and richer oils. In Denver we see the test results come back from our commercial growers and what they have found is that the plants sprayed with Khaos and fed lots of Herculean Harvest had higher levels of active ingredients in the fruiting bodies then the control plants that were left to the regular recipe without Khaos. So my recommendation is to use the Khaos alone with Nectar products only, and if you feel the need to supplement with a salt based additive, then do that on it’s own day without the addition of Nectar Products.
Demeter’s is our answer to the Cal/Mag Deficiencies, and without using calcium nitrate and magnesium nitrate. The calcium in the Demeter’s is specifically chosen to react with coir fiber and peat moss to extract natural forms of magnesium and potassium from the medium through chelation. It is very effective as long as there is minimal salt present in the root zone. If the salt level builds up around the roots stomata then the plants ability to naturally extract calcium and magnesium from the coir fiber is hindered. This can be remedied by initiating a Herculean Harvest flush pH’d in the mid 6’s. This calcium flush will tie up excess salts and turn them into organic compounds that need to be broken down by a microbial field before the plant can access it again. Hope this all make sense.
Happy Growing
Scott Ostrander
President
Oregon's Only Organics
Dude...not to be a downer but if your new at this...the last medium i would be using for NFTG is rockwool. Seriously. Iam sure it can be done but even pro veteran growers would think twice using something like Nectar for a real deal hydroponic substrate like straight rockwool. Tough to get right. Even if you know what your doing and understand how plants really "work".Thank you for the info and the product! How would you handle these deficiencies when growing in rockwool blocks?
So I sprayed some pegasus potion tonight. Stunk up the room for a good few hours. The stuff really stinks baaaaad. Probably the worst smelling nute up there with Alaska fish except it's a poultry nasty smell. Don't know if I'll be using it again but they seemed to have loved it!
Un fing real LoLIs there really 17 bottles in NFTG nutrient line up? Please tell me this is a joke? Really?
Mind if I ask what’s the feeding like?I planted this room and I decided to use Nectar for veg since I had some left and since they kept looking happy I kept giving them nectar and now am blowing through 5 gallon herc harvy almost! lol
I'm doing one normal watering a week of my usual and nectar on all other waterings, so far so good! Here is the MALILA 28 days here in this snapshot :D Sorry for the derail Goo but it is a Nectar post :happy:
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I've never run FloraNova nor Canna, but I suspect that even if they're organic, their chains are smaller and more easily absorbed. Hydroponics outyield soil by far, from all growers experiences Ive ever heard (well, except those crops that get fukced up and the whole room dies and the grower only ever remembers that round and never the huge yields, which every hydro grower I've known has had at least once).I ran NFTG from 2013 thru 2016, so I have quite a bit of insight on the product. Plants looked great but I got far lower yields in comparison to my prior runs using Canna A&B, or FloraNova. The amounts of Herculean Harvest and the number of additives you have to use to get the benefits of the line makes it far too expensive for anyone doing large runs; just to end up with average yields. If I had to rate the three based on yield and potency it would be 1) FloraNova 2) Canna 3) NFTG. Now taste is a whole different ball game, lol!
We found much lighter soil mix with a third of it being chunky perlite helped plants breathe and yield much better, but N4tG is a very complex, rich organic high ppm mix of 15+ liquids... and even pre-digested, pre-chelated, the chains have to be much larger and longer than tiny synthetic nutrient molecules.
@Avrilb