Multiple Issues/multiple Plants Week 5 Of Flower

[Gardenholic]

Hey guys,

So the first 3 weeks of flower went great for these 12 plants. Everyone was happily feeding and things seemed to be going smoothly.

Everything is planted in either 3 or 5 gallon fabric pots with Sunshine advance mix 4. I’ve been using primordial solutions sea green, true blooms, and paleo look all through flower.

Ph has been between 6-6.5, and I have been alternating feedings with the true blooms and paleobloom, but I have been using the sea green with every watering.

Temps are 72-76 during the day and 60-64 at night, and humidity between 45-55%.

All of these problems have become significantly worse over the last 7 days. I use well water that typically comes out around 50 ppm, but when I measured t after a big rain and snow melt it was all the way up to 200. For the last two feedings I have used a combination of distilled and spring water with a ppm of only 30, but the problems continue to get worse.

Should I just flush the plants until harvest at this point? Everything is at day 32 today, and between the far reds from the 3000k COBs and the true blooms flower accelerator, I plan on harvesting everything between 49-56 days.

It seems the plants are moving nutrients from the fan leaves to the buds, but I’m not sure that there will be enough juice left in them to make it to the finish at this point. Each plant will be a separate reply with a couple pictures of the problems.

Thanks a ton, let me know what info I left out, and if there’s and saving these babies. Buds look fire!

 

[Gardenholic]

Fuck OG 3 (Indica dominant pheno)

Plant was very light green, slightly burnt tips and edges, brown spots started on fans, quickly turned yellow, and started working its way up the cola.

 

[Gardenholic]

Fuck OG 5
Similar problems to #3, but not as severe

 

[Gardenholic]

Mystery #4 is one of the healthiest looking plants. Typical lower fan leaves dying off, but I’m noticing some yellowing between the veins on the oldest cola fans.

 

[Gardenholic]

Mystery 11 is the same strain as mystery 4 I beliveve. Also pretty healthy, besides a few spots on lower fans.

 

[Gardenholic]

Fuck OG 1 is one of my worst looking. A lot of dying and spotted leaves.

 

[Gardenholic]

Mystery 8 fan leaves ar changing color and looking a little unhealthy. This is my favorite plant!

 

[Gardenholic]

Mystery 11 has had curling and cupped leaves, and has now started to show the same deficiency as the FuckOG

 

[Gardenholic]

Mystery 10 was looking very healthy, but in the last couple days has started showing th same browning, yellowing, and curling leaves as most of the others.

 

[Gardenholic]

Mystery 2 has also had the culling and curling leaves, but is starting to get the spots and yellowing too.

 

[Gardenholic]

Orange Harambe 1 2 and 3 all look pretty healthy, but the leaves are starting to change colors.

 

[DGP]

Have you ruled anything out yet such as root issues or soil-borne bugs or bugs under the leaves? Have you scoped any leaves to see what is going on close up? Not saying it is any kind of pest or root issue just wondering if it is ruled out yet......

Definitely a bummer to see this level of leaf damage that far out from harvest. If it were my grow room I would remove some of the bad leaves cause most of em look like their not gong to recover anyway but I certainly am curious about the fundamental cause (was going to say root cause but that might like like a bad pun).

Best wishes on the solution, will be watching for the veteran growers to chime in.

D

 

[Gardenholic]

Have you ruled anything out yet such as root issues or soil-borne bugs or bugs under the leaves? Have you scoped any leaves to see what is going on close up? Not saying it is any kind of pest or root issue just wondering if it is ruled out yet......

Definitely a bummer to see this level of leaf damage that far out from harvest. If it were my grow room I would remove some of the bad leaves cause most of em look like their not gong to recover anyway but I certainly am curious about the fundamental cause (was going to say root cause but that might like like a bad pun).

Best wishes on the solution, will be watching for the veteran growers to chime in.

D

Thanks man! I have closely inspected for pests, and there are no signs of bugs anywhere. One of the plants (mystery 2) has been drinking a bit slower, but everything else has been sucking up the feedings within a day or two.

I did go a lot heavier on the watering on mystery 2 hoping to cleanse the roots of wait may be causing some sort of lockout. I have not flushed any of them with the reccomended 3 gallons of water per gallon of soil because 9-15 gallons of water seems extreme, especially when I don’t know if my water well water is the source of the problem. I have debated investing in an RO filter a number of ones, but I don’t know if my water pressure is strong enough, and I’m not sure how the plumbing would work in my upstairs grow room.

I guess I could buy a bunch of distilled or spring water, but I wanted someone to tell me that’s the right thing to do before I do it.

It does suck, and I thought about taking the leaves, but I figured if the buds were sucking nutes from them, I might as well leave them on until they are completely dead and pull off. I’m hoping it was just a spike or dip in ph of my well water, and the problems will start to correct themselves or at least stop spreading over the next few days

 

[DGP]

With all the rain you certainly could have had quite an excursion in water quality. Hard to imagine it would have such a profound effect but how long was the water turbid from the storms and were several watering cycles affected?

Anyway, can't wait to see what comes of this, always so much to learn!

My last grow I had leaves turning Fall colors and drooping way before harvest and I went through a similar mild freak out. Hate to have the potential of a loss of a harvest. Some of the flowers still look quite young in your photos and look as if they need some weeks before maturity.

D

 

[Gardenholic]

It was maybe two waterings with the bad water. I live on the main road in New England and the runoff flows right down past my well so maybe there was road salt in the water.

The more I think about it, the more I feel like I should flush with the reccomended high amounts of water and then water in a very mild nutrient solution. It’s going to be a lottttt of water

 

[GT21]

Your ph is probably off and its locking up your nutes

 

[stonestacker]

Do you have a shallow well? Rain and snow melt does not affect my well water. My well is over 110' deep. I would be afraid to drink that water.

 

[GT21]

Do you have a shallow well? Rain and snow melt does not affect my well water. My well is over 110' deep. I would be afraid to drink that water.

I friggen love my well.... Its way better than in town or across the county

 

[stonestacker]

I love my well above city water also. But I know what's in my water. When the ppms chang you have no idea what is in it. Like road salt, fertilizers, and pesticides from lawns and farmers.

 

[Gardenholic]

I don’t know much about the well, but I definitely think something with the water is contributing to my problems. Everything was going great until the thaw last week. I’ve heard horror stories of ph problems with Sunshine advance mix. I’m thinking about just giving them straight water for the next 2-3 weeks and just being happy with what I can salvage. It seems the feeding that I gave yesterday is only causing the problem to get worse and this was with 30 ppm spring water mixed up to about 800ppm with the nutrients. Do I really need to 9 gallons of water through the Sunshine advance mix to flush it thoroughly? If sugar leaves start to die, it will inevitable lead to mold, but all of these need at least 3-4 more weeks