Is Anyone Using Oco Labs' Superc Co2 Extraction Machine For Cannabis?

[rubisgsa]

When you use the expansion rack what parts of the extractor do you use? wondering if the rack will work with another compressor.

control box and valve?

 

[Drederick]

Rubisgsa,

I had to search around but I have some photos from a while ago when i was doing some experiments. When I currently use the Expansion Rack I have the compressor hooked into the Rack and Auto-Pilot hooked into the the Rack too. I have a few SuperC's and years ago I experimented by plumbing up two SuperC's together and then running to one Rack to shorten my runtimes by 50% (I figured double the flow rate, it's got to shorten my times right)? I found that there are pros and con's to doing this. The pro is that yes, you will get the job done in half the time. The con's are that you will eat through o-rings on the Rack end-caps, couplers, and quick-connect fittings much faster. I just don't think the o-rings can handle much more of the gas than what was most likely originally intended. You will also be dispensing large amounts of CO2 into your work environment seeing as these little bad boys are pass-through systems. Anymore than two SuperC's worth of flowing supercritial CO2 passing through one Rack would personally for me potentially be a safety concern. I also have no idea if the chambers and airlines in the rack could take a real industrial CO2 compressor. If you try it I'm very curios how it works out. In my opinion after using this equipment for a while its best not to test its limits and just use it as intended.

 

[robsanhi]

Hello Drederick,

Big ups for your posts! I really like the suggestions for keeping the work area clean. Got my plastic caps for the ball jars yesterday, and now the mods begin :).

With all your experience, just wondering if you have found a sweet spot for pressure and temp? Do you run different temps and pressures like some of the other users, or just one all the way thru? Unfortunately, in Hawaii CO2 is $6/lb, so I have to be conservative on my run times. Haddon at OCO labs suggested 50 degrees and 3000 psi all the way, which seemed to work well on my first run.

 

[robsanhi]

"rubisgsa said "anyone ever hear of the f10 shoebox compressor? looks very familiar"

Hi Rubisgsa,

OMG! I finally got around to checking out the F10 shoebox compressor, and I am stunned. As you said, the F10 looks very familiar. Another clue, when you check the contact info., the return address for the F10 is 7023 Alhambra Dr., Sierra Vista, AZ 85650. Well guess what? That's the same address my SuperC shipped from, the supposed "manufacturing facility" of OCO Labs. But I do not see a port for CO2 intake on the F10, so not sure how that would work. Obviously these machines are built at the same place, with different mods.

 

[rubisgsa]

im thinking f10 compressor and an expansion rack, valve, and control box and you can put together a 4 oz system and forgo the $4000 "extractor"

the system is composed of a compressor, pressure vessel, valve and the stuff that allows you achieve the desired temps and pressures

any thoughts?

 

[rubisgsa]

im thinking f10 compressor and an expansion rack, valve, and control box and you can put together a 4 oz system and forgo the $4000 "extractor"

the system is composed of a compressor, pressure vessel, valve and the stuff that allows you achieve the desired temps and pressures

any thoughts?

thanks for the pictures everyone they are invaluable to some of us you never know how many lurkers there are.

 

[robsanhi]

"rubisgsa, said "im thinking f10 compressor and an expansion rack, valve, and control box and you can put together a 4 oz system and forgo the $4000 "extractor"

the system is composed of a compressor, pressure vessel, valve and the stuff that allows you achieve the desired temps and pressures, any thoughts?"

I sure hope you can figure it out going with the F10 and the expansion rack. I'm thinking you don't need the air compressor for the F10 once you figure out how to get the CO2 into the system. Would save about $2600 if you can rig it up that way. Make it so Rubisgsa! I see myself getting another system in the future, so hopefully you have it figured out by then!

 

[rubisgsa]

"rubisgsa, said "im thinking f10 compressor and an expansion rack, valve, and control box and you can put together a 4 oz system and forgo the $4000 "extractor"

the system is composed of a compressor, pressure vessel, valve and the stuff that allows you achieve the desired temps and pressures, any thoughts?"

I sure hope you can figure it out going with the F10 and the expansion rack. I'm thinking you don't need the air compressor for the F10 once you figure out how to get the CO2 into the system. Would save about $2600 if you can rig it up that way. Make it so Rubisgsa! I see myself getting another system in the future, so hopefully you have it figured out by then!

the f10 is the compressor

 

[CannaOilGirl]

What are you running at?

Currently, I'm pulling several different medicines with five steps/settings.
42C@1500psi, 53C@1900psi, *53C@2500psi, *53@2600psi, 58C@3000psi

* these two are essentially the same, but it (should?) distributes the collection of overlapping CBN and CBD to maximize both.

 

[CannaOilGirl]

I took some pictures of my current setup during my recent extracting that I thought it'd share.

Here is a wide shot of the business-end:

I tuck my 20lb tank into its favorite electric blankie and turn it to "7" out of "10". I found that, as I drained the tank, the temp would drop and the output pressure dropped. When the tank was nearly empty, it would become unusable. By warming it, I can get more out of the tank, for a longer period. Here's the cozy tank:

Here's the collection vessel, during extraction:

Other views of the extract:

This batch seems to be my best one yet. I used 26g of material and got 4.2ml of oil. I hope to get this one tested. If I do, I'll post the results.

 

[robsanhi]

rubisgsa said "the f10 is the compressor"

Haha, I stonered that reply! Not using the F10 as intended!

Here's my latest thought on using the F10;

Basically the only differences between the two units are the heater block/temperature control and CO2 intake valve. Since this modified setup is using the rack, no need for the heater block/temp control. The only thing left that I can tell is the CO2 intake. I attached a pic of the guts of the SuperC. Somehow to modify the F10 for extraction, you need a CO2 intake that connects to the airblock in the middle of the unit. Another airblock is needed to exit the SuperC after being pressurized, which then connects to the rack. The airblock in the F10 is different and from the SuperC, and it is not listed in the spare parts catalog of OCO Labs. However, the air line assembly is available. So if you can get that modified air block for the middle and the exit block, you are in business. The air line assembly is only $65. I think you need a belt for the stepper motor too.

Sounds like it would work. Let us know as soon as you get it up and running! :)

 

[rubisgsa]

rubisgsa said "the f10 is the compressor"

Haha, I stonered that reply! Not using the F10 as intended!

Here's my latest thought on using the F10;

Basically the only differences between the two units are the heater block/temperature control and CO2 intake valve. Since this modified setup is using the rack, no need for the heater block/temp control. The only thing left that I can tell is the CO2 intake. I attached a pic of the guts of the SuperC. Somehow to modify the F10 for extraction, you need a CO2 intake that connects to the airblock in the middle of the unit. Another airblock is needed to exit the SuperC after being pressurized, which then connects to the rack. The airblock in the F10 is different and from the SuperC, and it is not listed in the spare parts catalog of OCO Labs. However, the air line assembly is available. So if you can get that modified air block for the middle and the exit block, you are in business. The air line assembly is only $65. I think you need a belt for the stepper motor too.

Sounds like it would work. Let us know as soon as you get it up and running! :)

 

[rubisgsa]

WOW. Thanks that is exactly!! what I wanted to know. Another issue is the lubricant. The F!0 uses lithium and the super C uses coconut oil. It would have to be cleaned.

 

[CannaOilGirl]

Have you thought to ask OCO Labs for help with this project? I'm sure they'd appreciate good ideas like this.

The expensive stuff on the SuperC is the stuff that becomes duplicated when one buys the expansion rack. If they can leave those parts off the pump, the price would be lower and you'd have a unit you knew worked well with their rack.

 

[robsanhi]

Have you thought to ask OCO Labs for help with this project? I'm sure they'd appreciate good ideas like this.

The expensive stuff on the SuperC is the stuff that becomes duplicated when one buys the expansion rack. If they can leave those parts off the pump, the price would be lower and you'd have a unit you knew worked well with their rack.

Most definitely a good idea COG. I'm waiting until I extract some more info out of OCO Labs before I bust out our idea for a new SuperC option. :)

I did however move closer to the solution. If one could order the F10 as is then modify it for the expansion rack, they could save about $2185 on the bundle cost of $6400. Here is the list of parts you need from OCO Labs for the mod:

Product Price Quantity Total
× End Cap for Chamber on Extractor (not for Rack) $30.00 $30.00
× Chamber Tube $100.00 $100.00
× Gauge $15.00 $15.00
× Hose (CO2-Air Block) $35.00 $35.00
× Extractor Chamber Body $100.00 $100.00
× Hose (Chamber Block to Chamber) $35.00 $70.00
× Air Line Assembly $65.00 $65.00
× Shaft Block $20.00 $20.00
× Coupler, Male Adapter $15.00 $30.00
× AutoPilot Kit $550.00 $550.00
× Expansion Rack $2,500.00 $2,500.00
× Cylinder $95.00 $190.00
Cart totals
Subtotal $3,705.00

The only thing I could not find is the exit block, but I imagine it will be cheap. Cheers everyone!

 

[rubisgsa]

WOW You took it and ran with it. I don't think the cylinder on the extractor is really used with the rack?

I dont think OCO would like this idea at all:(

 

[robsanhi]

WOW You took it and ran with it. I don't think the cylinder on the extractor is really used with the rack?

I dont think OCO would like this idea at all:(

Haha true, probably on our own for this mod. Turns out the shaft block is the wrong part. It's the air block and exit block we need, then this is a can do project. The cylinder is for the F10, it looks like the bottom one is different from the SuperC. Probably only need one. Like you said, might not need the extra chamber either. If the extractor chamber body valve will stop any leaks (its closed when running the rack), good to go. I just remember OCO saying you need the chamber screwed into the extractor chamber body in the videos. I'll see if I can run the SuperC with just the extractor chamber body on my next run. :) I'll let you guys know if I can find those air blocks. TTFN

 

[rubisgsa]

this is worth wathching!

 

[deliverance6]

Hope I'm not too late to this party. I was so happy to find a thread on this particular machine as I believe it is the only somewhat affordable table top co2 extractor out there? (I could just be old too..)

Are you guys getting consistent, repeatable results? Still feel like it was a solid purchase?

 

[robsanhi]

Hope I'm not too late to this party. I was so happy to find a thread on this particular machine as I believe it is the only somewhat affordable table top co2 extractor out there? (I could just be old too..)

Are you guys getting consistent, repeatable results? Still feel like it was a solid purchase?

Hi Deliverance6, I've had mine for about 2 months, and I am still sold. I run the rack and the Super C in 2 runs off of one 20lb tank, total weight going in is 175 g, and my average is 23 g of finished oil. Unfortunately bc of the SuperC investment no funds to test material prior to extraction, but OCO said, you should be getting a 10% or more return or its a waste of time. So I am doing that. Just remember quality in = quality out. But to be clear, it's a long day, takes me about 2 hours to get set up cleaning/loading chambers etc., then extracting for 8-9 hrs. Then post processing to your preference. By finished oil, I mean winterized, then adding back 8-12% of terps and flavors to get a 1 gram cartridge. My patients love the product, people from other parts of the country have said its some of the best they have had, hella smooth, great flavor, and a kick. I am using Extract Consultants and Denver Terpenes for the terps and flavors.