Damien's Photo Grow: Malawi X Panama Edition

[MIMedGrower]

Day 29 - 5th Week of Flowering
Coco coir - 780ppm/5.9 ph
Jack's FeED 5-12-26/Growpito enzymes and microbes
73-84f Leaf Surface Temp
60-65% RH
32762~lux/720~ PPFD 3000k Average
4" Light Height
12/12

Getting some frost! Still have mothers to transplant though

You have real talent sir! Plants are looking beautiful every step.

 

[damien50]

You have real talent sir! Plants are looking beautiful every step.

Thanks I appreciate it. I don't feel talented unfortunately as I obsess over what seems like everything going wrong lol. I am a basket case of nerves from seed to curing

 

[MIMedGrower]

Thanks I appreciate it. I don't feel talented unfortunately as I obsess over what seems like everything going wrong lol. I am a basket case of nerves from seed to curing

Of course. I thought we all were. ;-)

 

[damien50]

Day 30 - 5th Week of Flowering
Coco coir - 780ppm/5.9 ph
Jack's FeED 5-12-26/Growpito enzymes and microbes
73-84f Leaf Surface Temp
60-65% RH
32762~lux/720~ PPFD 3000k Average
4" Light Height
12/12

Mothers are transplanted. Tent shots. Bagged up the remaining clones. Slowly converting my closet into the veg room. Not much else going on

 

[Funk junky]

And indica is all there is in my city. I've gotten to the point that I don't smoke other people's bud unless I know they grew it. I haven't had a 'sativa' that I've liked, just stuff my friends buy from Colorado from breeders I can't even find seeds for and say are sativa. I'm excited just to sample this let alone after drying on the vine for a few weeks. I always heard bud gets as good as it will after six months, you saying sativas keep going? I hope you are lol

I meant they just get better and better with curing compared to indica. Just got my regular device back its been hard to communicate with device I’ve been using as a fill in.
Saying that I’ve grown very few pure sativas maybe Durban the rest being sativa dominant hybrids. Still smoking some of this. It’s a sativa dominant jabbas stash from bodhi seeds bubba x snow lotus this particular pheno has a taste of bubba but also very much sativa taste in balance with it. Hard to describe but I’ve described it as poison before. Knowing the lineage of the snow lotus I would say it has influence from the Maui haze. It has what I’m talking about though, after a couple of months curing it just kept improving its now over a year old and is heaven only got about three grams left now though, I’ll miss her when she’s gone

 

[Funk junky]

There is a thread on breeders forum I think where dj short expresses his views on growing sativas. I will try to find it as I think you will find it interesting :)

 

[Funk junky]

It’s in breeders lab second thread in

 

[damien50]

@Jimster @Buzzer777 what's your thoughts on switching to 11/13 light cycle more similar sativa environmental conditions?

 

[Buzzer777]

@Jimster @Buzzer777 what's your thoughts on switching to 11/13 light cycle more similar sativa environmental conditions?

No idea..Sorry

 

[Jimster]

@Jimster @Buzzer777 what's your thoughts on switching to 11/13 light cycle more similar sativa environmental conditions?

I have started flowering at 12/12 and then changed it to 13/11 and even 14/10 and had good results once it was flowering. I didn't really keep any records regarding yield VS photoperiod, but I didn't have any problems once they were flowering. A friend likes to clone plants at 14/10, and they are usually in flowering mode when he takes them out of the Klone-O-Matic gizmo he has. Sativa's might be less sensitive to shorter days, since they usually don't start flowering until later in the season compared to Indica.

 

[damien50]

I have started flowering at 12/12 and then changed it to 13/11 and even 14/10 and had good results once it was flowering. I didn't really keep any records regarding yield VS photoperiod, but I didn't have any problems once they were flowering. A friend likes to clone plants at 14/10, and they are usually in flowering mode when he takes them out of the Klone-O-Matic gizmo he has. Sativa's might be less sensitive to shorter days, since they usually don't start flowering until later in the season compared to Indica.

Everything I've read suggest 14/10 for vegging and 11.5/12.5 down to 10/14 for flowering especially with landrace sativas. From my research it seems that these non 12/12 schedules cause more sativa dominant expressions to occur and even gets rid of the narcotic feeling some strains express.

I've switched to 11/13 and the Malawi x Panama #2 and #3 started throwing more pistils and further down while #1,4,5,6 have only gotten even frostier. I've read it reduces the overall flowering time which I would appreciate and I'm thinking by switching it after 5 weeks, past the stretch that I doubt I'll see a loss inn yield.

I just want the highest quality I can grow and I've read that this light schedule promotes tighter buds with more density rather than some of the typical airy sativa buds. It starts to feel like an art to growing sativas and I've been reading on the history of the landrace strains that made it into Hawaii and the coast. It's a shame how much federal interference and the rise of indicas in the late 80's has held the sativa and it's CBD/THCV benefits back.

I hope to one day meet Sannie through a mutual friend and just talk growing and its history especially with regards to sativas.

 

[Jimster]

Everything I've read suggest 14/10 for vegging and 11.5/12.5 down to 10/14 for flowering especially with landrace sativas. From my research it seems that these non 12/12 schedules cause more sativa dominant expressions to occur and even gets rid of the narcotic feeling some strains express.

I've switched to 11/13 and the Malawi x Panama #2 and #3 started throwing more pistils and further down while #1,4,5,6 have only gotten even frostier. I've read it reduces the overall flowering time which I would appreciate and I'm thinking by switching it after 5 weeks, past the stretch that I doubt I'll see a loss inn yield.

I just want the highest quality I can grow and I've read that this light schedule promotes tighter buds with more density rather than some of the typical airy sativa buds. It starts to feel like an art to growing sativas and I've been reading on the history of the landrace strains that made it into Hawaii and the coast. It's a shame how much federal interference and the rise of indicas in the late 80's has held the sativa and it's CBD/THCV benefits back.

I hope to one day meet Sannie through a mutual friend and just talk growing and its history especially with regards to sativas.

Here is a great article about Sativas grown on the Equator:

Equatorial cannabis varieties

Cannabis is known to be a photoperiod-dependent plant; when summer draws to a close, the plants typically stop growing new shoots and leaves.

sensiseeds.com

 

[damien50]

Day 33 - 5th Week of Flowering
Coco coir - 880ppm/5.9 ph
Jack's FeED 5-12-26/Growpito enzymes and microbes
73-84f Leaf Surface Temp
60-65% RH
32762~lux/720~ PPFD 3000k Average
4" Light Height
12/12

Not much going on but they look like they are going to be dense and fat.

 

[damien50]

Day 35 - 6th Week of Flowering

Coco coir - 880ppm/5.4 ph

Jack's FeED 5-12-26/Growpito enzymes and microbes

73-84f Leaf Surface Temp

60-65% RH

32762~lux/720~ PPFD 3000k Average

4" Light Height

12/12

Getting more frost and #1/2 are starting to develop frost. I super cropped the 4 in buckets because I have a 6-8 week veg and I want more colas than a room full of sugar amped toddlers. Mothers are doing fine, I haven't been paying attention to them.

For some fun, I found out you can graft multiple strains to a mother plant. Just mark them.

 

[Buzzer777]

Man..that's gonna be alot

Day 35 - 6th Week of Flowering

Coco coir - 880ppm/5.4 ph

Jack's FeED 5-12-26/Growpito enzymes and microbes

73-84f Leaf Surface Temp

60-65% RH

32762~lux/720~ PPFD 3000k Average

4" Light Height

12/12

Getting more frost and #1/2 are starting to develop frost. I super cropped the 4 in buckets because I have a 6-8 week veg and I want more colas than a room full of sugar amped toddlers. Mothers are doing fine, I haven't been paying attention to them.

For some fun, I found out you can graft multiple strains to a mother plant. Just mark them.

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Man..that's gonna be alot of smoke..and alot to trim!...LOL

I just picked up a used Trimpro Rotor for the summer's outdoor grow. It took ages to trim 3 outdoor plants last year and that was only keeping the best of the best. (I have a 19" bowl trimmer, but it is manual..even with that, the job was huge). I may keep the Trimpro (built like a tank!) or sell it after the harvest, since I bought it right and have refirbed what was needed. One or 2 indoor plants can be trimmed by hand easily..not so with an outdoor plant.

I was always interested in what if anything could be had by grafting 2 or more strains. Before I try a cross to make seeds..I try to put both strains flower in a bowl for a cocktail. Sometimes it actually tells me something..

 

[damien50]

Man..that's gonna be alot

Man..that's gonna be alot of smoke..and alot to trim!...LOL

I just picked up a used Trimpro Rotor for the summer's outdoor grow. It took ages to trim 3 outdoor plants last year and that was only keeping the best of the best. (I have a 19" bowl trimmer, but it is manual..even with that, the job was huge). I may keep the Trimpro (built like a tank!) or sell it after the harvest, since I bought it right and have refirbed what was needed. One or 2 indoor plants can be trimmed by hand easily..not so with an outdoor plant.

I was always interested in what if anything could be had by grafting 2 or more strains. Before I try a cross to make seeds..I try to put both strains flower in a bowl for a cocktail. Sometimes it actually tells me something..

I'm hoping it's a lot. Fingers crossed for 3lbs lol. These lights really penetrate the canopy and the frost is like 10" down. At only 6 weeks the buds look like they are going to be pretty fat.

I've always heard the trimmers remove too many trichomes and hand trimming was preferred.

 

[Buzzer777]

I'm hoping it's a lot. Fingers crossed for 3lbs lol. These lights really penetrate the canopy and the frost is like 10" down. At only 6 weeks the buds look like they are going to be pretty fat.

I've always heard the trimmers remove too many trichomes and hand trimming was preferred.

Hand trimming IS preferred, but time is valuable too. Most of the removed trichomes seem to come from the sugar leaves that are beaten up. Again..for an indoor plant, I hand trim everything except the lowers..outdoor plants are a different ball game.

 

[damien50]

Hand trimming IS preferred, but time is valuable too. Most of the removed trichomes seem to come from the sugar leaves that are beaten up. Again..for an indoor plant, I hand trim everything except the lowers..outdoor plants are a different ball game.

I'm just lazy lol. My wife refuses to help trim ever since the 2lb auto grow and I've tried to get friends over until they realized it wasn't fun lol

 

[Funk junky]

I'm just lazy lol. My wife refuses to help trim ever since the 2lb auto grow and I've tried to get friends over until they realized it wasn't fun lol

I remember about 20years ago I was living in Holland and I was offered a job trimming bud, wasn’t till I started growing that I realised I made a good move by turning it down lol

 

[damien50]

I remember about 20years ago I was living in Holland and I was offered a job trimming bud, wasn’t till I started growing that I realised I made a good move by turning it down lol

It's horrible. It's so damn horrible but why sacrifice my bud for convenience you know? Could be worse but it's only my fault in the amount that I grow lol