Should I trim low laying branches?

[BigCube]

Fwiw. Indoor I prune. I wouldn't call it defoliation only to help with air flow and light penetration.

Outdoor I really cannot see any benefit to it. Airflow and light are not really a concern.

Personally I don't buy into the theory that plants divert more energy to other bud sites. I mean plant processes happen and as long as there are adequate nutrients etc for those processes I can't see any reason there would be a change.

To me that's no different than saying giving your plant more nutes will make it grow bigger buds. A healthy plant does not divert more energy than it normally does.

I get the tomatoe reference but also fail to see how it applies to cannabis.

Pruning and defoliation are different. I do agree that selective pruning may increase yeilds by allowing better light penetration and airflow. But I also feels this mostly applies to indoor and would not be a concern so much with outdoor

The published peer reviewed scientific research disagrees with you. Sorry.

 

[Aqua Man]

The published peer reviewed scientific research disagrees with you. Sorry.

That's ok with me. Just to be clear here you are stating that a plant will increase its bud growth rate and overall yield by defoliating it? So if I cut away everything but one stem and bud site I would get more yield from that than if I did nothing?

I don't consider it scientific evidence unless it can be explained how this occurs and what is responsible for it. In the case of pruning off buds, branches and leaves that do not recieve enough light it makes sense and can be explained that without adequate light these buds sites will consume energy from the plant without the same results as if they had adequate light.

Defoliation removes a lot more than just pruning. Can you explain to me why defoliation (not pruning) would increase yields and what processes are responsible or point me to some scientific evidence of this.

 

[Ace9137]

Cannabis Defoliation Tutorial To Increase Yields | Grow Weed Easy

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Just to give you an idea that there are more opinions out there than just two.

 

[Migrower]

Your right on many levels Ace. I’m just gonna run two and find out. Suck cuz all my babies and teens have been mainlined already and in training I got two supercropped clones I could run but again already altered. I have a couple little experiments I’m doing right now. First one of the lower limbs I took off I just stuck in a wine bottle and some water and seeing if it would continue to grow roots and I could just plant the entire limb well it’s still alive in the wine bottle and it’s been over three weeks it’s starting to revenge I believe. And the second experiment is instead of using cloning hormones. I just took off my clones and stuck them in freshwater they to have been alive for about three weeks but yeah I see no root growth but I just recently covered the clear plastic bottle with duct taped so late we’re not penetrate because roots do not like light. The limb and clones both are now pulling energy from the leaves turning them yellow. The clones I thought would have some roots showing by now but I have a feeling the light was an issue. Just wrapped in tape so we’ll see. Here a few pics. I think I see new growth coming thru the buds. Just a lil test.

 

[Aqua Man]

The published peer reviewed scientific research disagrees with you. Sorry.

Also are you taking a peer published review based on indoor findings and suggesting it applies to outdoor? Because the variables are substantially different.

 

[Ace9137]

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Tomatoes are very similar to cannabis plants, in fact I have known this to be a classic reference, in fact reading this article will make it seem like you are reading something from a cannabis site. I grew up in a farming community, and yes, farmers will grow weed on the side, not all.

 

[Ace9137]

Also are you taking a peer published review based on indoor findings and suggesting it applies to outdoor? Because the variables are substantially different.

YES! I love it when people think for themselves, I am so happy I am going to smoke a bowl and pretend Aqua man is with me getting sky high.....!

 

[Ace9137]

See, all packed!

 

[Migrower]

See, all packed!

Super reddish hairy flowers bro

 

[BigCube]

Also are you taking a peer published review based on indoor findings and suggesting it applies to outdoor? Because the variables are substantially different.

Nope. Every single paper I read indoor and outdoor both say the exact same thing. Ignore the science all you want, no skin off my nose. I'm not going to argue with someone who obviously won't or can't listen to reason.

If you could find a scientifically peer reviewed paper that supports your strange claims I would appreciate it. Nothing short of evidence is going to convince me. From what I can see there is none.

It's easy to do, go find some peer reviewed papers on the topic of pruning plants, more specifically fruiting plants.
If you find something that supports what you're babbling on about please share it.
Till then, I'll trust science over some rando internet guy who is saying the exact opposite of all known research.

 

[Aqua Man]

Nope. Every single paper I read indoor and outdoor both say the exact same thing. Ignore the science all you want, no skin off my nose. I'm not going to argue with someone who obviously won't or can't listen to reason.

If you could find a scientifically peer reviewed paper that supports your strange claims I would appreciate it. Nothing short of evidence is going to convince me. From what I can see there is none.

It's easy to do, go find some peer reviewed papers on the topic of pruning plants, more specifically fruiting plants.
If you find something that supports what you're babbling on about please share it.
Till then, I'll trust science over some rando internet guy who is saying the exact opposite of all known research.

Read plenty. I wasn't making it personal. I guess resorting to personal attacks is your evidence? Can you please share with me a scientific paper of your claims? Or at least some more than a vague statement that the plants diverts its energy? There is a lot more to it than that.

Again pruning and defoliation are not the same.

And I am listening but you are not providing anything to listen to. Just blanket statements and regurgitating the phrase peer reviewed scientific studies. Give me something to listen to I'm all ears

 

[BigCube]

Read plenty. I wasn't making it personal. I guess resorting to personal attacks is your evidence? Can you please share with me a scientific paper of your claims? Or at least some more than a vague statement that the plants diverts its energy? There is a lot more to it than that.

Again pruning and defoliation are not the same.

And I am listening but you are not providing anything to listen to. Just blanket statements and regurgitating the phrase peer reviewed scientific studies. Give me something to listen to I'm all ears

Personal attack? Where? I did no such thing.

 

[BigCube]

First I would start by learning that pruning is what you're doing g when you remove growth from a plant.

Pruning - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Ace9137]

^^^^ this up here is in veg

http://cesonoma.ucanr.edu/files/27164.pdf

^^^^This up here is when a plant is in flower.

This is how I do it mostly, not always.

 

[Aqua Man]

Personal attack? Where? I did no such thing.

someone who obviously won't or can't listen to reason.

I'm listening. Like I said give me something to listen to. Not just some random internet guys opinion and blanket statements

If you find something that supports what you're babbling on about please share it.

If by babbling you mean sharing my opinion. So is it fair to say you are also babbling?

I'll trust science over some rando internet guy

I agree with this.

 

[Aqua Man]

^^^^ this up here is in veg

http://cesonoma.ucanr.edu/files/27164.pdf

^^^^This up here is when a plant is in flower.

This is how I do it mostly, not always.

Agreed I didn't even read it but going to assume it has to do with breaking dominance.

 

[Ace9137]

First I would start by learning that pruning is what you're doing g when you remove growth from a plant.

Pruning - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

You do know that wikipedia is unreliable right? In fact most colleges will not accept any research using wikipedia.

 

[Ace9137]

Agreed I didn't even read it but going to assume it has to do with breaking dominance.

If you get the chance give it a read, it would give insight, that is all.

 

[Aqua Man]

First I would start by learning that pruning is what you're doing g when you remove growth from a plant.

Pruning - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Did you read my posts. I agree pruning to allow for light and airflow is important.... More so in indoor grows.

I also agree pruning methods such as topping will increase yields.

Am I missing something. Did I mix something up? Because I thought you were talking about defoliation.

 

[Aqua Man]

If you get the chance give it a read, it would give insight, that is all.

I skimmed it over. I agree with everything in there as far I can see