Mosh wants to learn to grow !

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Nothing just this soil it's fluffy and airs out good ...

all the mixing is with the FF stuff I'm adding ash from fire, saw cuttings from wood and etc....

I really didnt mess with it cause everything I used it in was all ready in FF mix 1 time....
 
oldskol4evr

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They Re definitely overwatered I locked a couple up in flower and you guys helped me figure out that you should at least ck the ph thing ! So the last couple waters have been frikken baths , and I hurried them a little, of a lot add on top of that they fried so fast I lost a lot of transpiration (I think) so they used even less water

Only way you look at it it all human error for sure soil and water combo no bueno
i see flowers ,thats the goal,roll with it bro
 
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jimster does damn good with the pro mix and balanced nutes and compost ,it all in over watering that becomes issues,but hell pro mix is peat moss so same game if you dig

Promix is a lot more than just peat and perlite. It's a very high quality grade of peat with the fines removed and then its treated with Aqua gro 2000 surfactant to improve its wet characteristics making it VERY hard to overwater. It also has a balanced mix of macro and micro nutes added to it along with perlite and often mycos as well. It's a very high quality product that is actually quite a bit better than what you get just mixing bulk peat and perlite. I've made my own homemade versions of promix using gaia green dry organic nutrients, cinnabar valley peat and revolution surfactant along with chunky and medium perlite, and it ended up costing nearly as much as promix, plus I had to mix it all.. wasnt worth it for me.
 
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I got 2 bags when I was talking to the manger...... some how soil came up.... I still have all that FF........ but he had to bags that had holes in them and most the time they don't give you a deal but he gave them to me for 3 $$$

I have been using it every since....... i'm like 6-7 bags all ready...... when the ff is gone it will be what I use now......
home depot here does that ,any bag of any product that been damaged is half price,except concrete,they just let you have it,yep i have extra thrash bags in my truck hahahah,when im doing some work once a week i got there and clean up were the concrete is stacked hahah,usally get about 3 bags by the time im done
 
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Promix is a lot more than just peat and perlite. It's a very high quality grade of peat with the fines removed and then its treated with Aqua gro 2000 surfactant to improve its wet characteristics making it VERY hard to overwater. It also has a balanced mix of macro and micro nutes added to it along with perlite and often mycos as well. It's a very high quality product that is actually quite a bit better than what you get just mixing bulk peat and perlite. I've made my own homemade versions of promix using gaia green dry organic nutrients, cinnabar valley peat and revolution surfactant along with chunky and medium perlite, and it ended up costing nearly as much as promix, plus I had to mix it all.. wasnt worth it for me.
it could have kelp and all that other good stuff and still i wont pay 85 bucks for a bail of peat moss,to damn easy to make my own mix and do,with just blood and bone humus compost mix from tractor supply 2.50 a bag has all that same stuff,and out side in my containers ,the surfactant make the mix look and hold water on top to puddle and take forever to gwet down in the containers,with 27 18 gal totes i dont have that time,so i use mulch in my pots to help with moisture,i also use char to hold my nutes along with kiddie playground mulch in stead of perlite or vermiculite,the combination holds moisture and char provide the stocked nutrient it absorbs,folks dont use char for that reason alone ,i do cause i dont want to feed a bunch of nutes,between compost ,humus blood and bone all provide with just water and teas to finish out veggies,nope they could put all them amends in it and still would not pay 85 bucks for a bail
 
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it could have kelp and all that other good stuff and still i wont pay 85 bucks for a bail of peat moss,to damn easy to make my own mix and do,with just blood and bone humus compost mix from tractor supply 2.50 a bag has all that same stuff,and out side in my containers ,the surfactant make the mix look and hold water on top to puddle and take forever to gwet down in the containers,with 27 18 gal totes i dont have that time,so i use mulch in my pots to help with moisture,i also use char to hold my nutes along with kiddie playground mulch in stead of perlite or vermiculite,the combination holds moisture and char provide the stocked nutrient it absorbs,folks dont use char for that reason alone ,i do cause i dont want to feed a bunch of nutes,between compost ,humus blood and bone all provide with just water and teas to finish out veggies,nope they could put all them amends in it and still would not pay 85 bucks for a bail

No I dont blame you, I wouldnt pay that either. Surfactant shouldnt make it puddle up though, It does the opposite and let's it drain quickly and wets the soil evenly. But surfactants arent all equal. Aquatrols revolution and aquagro 2000 are extremely effective.
 
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i swear im going to buy a damn cement mixer yet,like you say dirt bag,it is work mixing that shit,and if i got it 38 like you ya id buy it,but aint happening here at 85 a bail,hell i need right now to redo just half my totes around 6 bails
 
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No I dont blame you, I wouldnt pay that either. Surfactant shouldnt make it puddle up though, It does the opposite and let's it drain quickly and wets the soil evenly. But surfactants arent all equal. Aquatrols revolution and aquagro 2000 are extremely effective.
Prolly buy a bag if it is reasonable so with all the additives does that mean it’s one and done? Or can you reuse it?
 
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No I dont blame you, I wouldnt pay that either. Surfactant shouldnt make it puddle up though, It does the opposite and let's it drain quickly and wets the soil evenly. But surfactants arent all equal. Aquatrols revolution and aquagro 2000 are extremely effective.
i cant remember how long ago i got the kellog garden soil,it was real fine ,i even put perlite in it from the powder texture it had,i put that in 6 totes and grew my brocille,i have since harvest all the veggies and still what the hell ever it is still holds the water on top,i literally made it threw the grow buy just filling the top of top with 1 inch of standing water and waited for it to drain down,then gave it another inch,,this every other week.
i put my totes into bigger totes and fillthe void with straw to keep the sun from cooking the outside of the totes and make for less watering hahahah,im lazy ahaha
 
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I like the “ hard to overwater” part! Lol plus I’m goi with larger containers to provide more space
pro mix is good stuff,but you have to know which you want,they do provide imformation on there web site were you can decide what your aiming to do,were im at 4 months of a years is triple digits,no getting around it,the bail was hff or something along those lines and the folks there will talk with you right then if you need help,they have several difrent types of pro mix,the stuff i looked at was 85 bail,so i whttps://www.pthorticulture.com/en/training-center/best-pro-mix-growing-media-for-edible-crops-peppers/ent to amazon to get it cheaper,same damn price and some was even higher,im like what the hell
 
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it's like walking in on ur grandparents, foolin around: u dunno what u just saw... will never understand and I'm just not gonna ask, "what's with the midget?". i think i grow mine in tap water, after seein them twos gettin mental, depth wise, n pmix.i know nothing. NOTING! (nazi ripoff?.
i wake up... see skol and dbag in their explosive vests and... I'm not running, yet... but it's more like this:

informative conversation, fellas! i was lost, the entire time, waiting to hear bat guano, but now... i was sittin in on the chinese club and all i got was cottonmouth.
i would b harry...
 
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it's like walking in on ur grandparents, foolin around: u dunno what u just saw... will never understand and I'm just not gonna ask, "what's with the midget?". i think i grow mine in tap water, after seein them twos gettin mental, depth wise, n pmix.i know nothing. NOTING! (nazi ripoff?.
i wake up... see skol and dbag in their explosive vests and... I'm not running, yet... but it's more like this:

informative conversation, fellas! i was lost, the entire time, waiting to hear bat guano, but now... i was sittin in on the chinese club and all i got was cottonmouth.
i would b harry...
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Wow 85 bucks is crazy!? I paid 14 bucks for the all purpose promix bail at Home and add some perlite to it
 
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mosh- who's ur... hellfire, desert resident? i gotta go to Phoenix, next wk. if i need to come heavy... if i can talk ltr into not riding in a soda can to look at- i dunno a laws rocket, or something Eastwood soundin- it would be alright so start lookin n the cliset n lemme know if i need to bring some extra phat clothing, r shoes r something.
 
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i don't want his money, but i got extra pumps ... far as shoes... um... hydro heads n such. stuffs i wouldn't sell n just collect dust.
 
Moshmen

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pro mix is good stuff,but you have to know which you want,they do provide imformation on there web site were you can decide what your aiming to do,were im at 4 months of a years is triple digits,no getting around it,the bail was hff or something along those lines and the folks there will talk with you right then if you need help,they have several difrent types of pro mix,the stuff i looked at was 85 bail,so i whttps://www.pthorticulture.com/en/training-center/best-pro-mix-growing-media-for-edible-crops-peppers/ent to amazon to get it cheaper,same damn price and some was even higher,im like what the hell
Yeah can’t find it anywhere round here to ship it In is well out of my price range for now ! Lmao gonna try to make something close. Lol
 
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