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Thanks for the tip Arron.
I did offer them to use their new light on the grow I just started and pay myself to return it afterwards but they didn't even bother saying.... Thanks... But... No Thank You... Despite replying to several other people in the same thread.
You are trying to compare LED to the other light sources as if we were ever making such comparisons. No one was making any comparisons. Notice I posted this in the LED thread for that reason. But thanks for your opinion.you cant count trim and small buds with final yield. This is a 1 pound grow approximately. I can easily do more with a 600w hps. And can match with a 315 cmh.
everybody please stop helping this awful company get ahead on hype. They already lie and exaggerate. We dont need to help them.
or is everyone counting more than premium buds with their yields now?
Well Actually Kyle. I believe the comparison is 100 percent reasonable because first of all, @SpiderFarmerLED is not truthful in their own PPDF chart average as posted above. Secondly, the main marketing point used by these Chinese LED light people is to compare their LED lights to other grow lights. How many times have you seen the Chinese LED lights compared to a 1000 Watt Double Ended High Pressure Sodium Light. I have to spell everything out so we do not get the marketing ploy of 1000W also coined by the Chinese LED Grow Light Community.You are trying to compare LED to the other light sources as if we were ever making such comparisons. No one was making any comparisons. Notice I posted this in the LED thread for that reason. But thanks for your opinion.
I’m not arguing your points. Lol. I’m just saying that this thread wasn’t created to try and bash SpiderFarmer. I created this thread to talk about the differences between the SF4000 to SF7000 and it’s just been everyone here just using this thread to roast the company. That’s not my intention with the thread and hopefully someone will go ahead and close this thread.Well Actually Kyle. I believe the comparison is 100 percent reasonable because first of all, @SpiderFarmerLED is not truthful in their own PPDF chart average as posted above. Secondly, the main marketing point used by these Chinese LED light people is to compare their LED lights to other grow lights. How many times have you seen the Chinese LED lights compared to a 1000 Watt Double Ended High Pressure Sodium Light. I have to spell everything out so we do not get the marketing ploy of 1000W also coined by the Chinese LED Grow Light Community.
So Spider Farmer tells bold face lies and you consider that bashing? I believe that is calling a spade a spade. No harm intended on my end. I just want the community to be aware of what they have done and to consider the marketing ploys before purchasing.I’m not arguing your points. Lol. I’m just saying that this thread wasn’t created to try and bash SpiderFarmer. I created this thread to talk about the differences between the SF4000 to SF7000 and it’s just been everyone here just using this thread to roast the company. That’s not my intention with the thread and hopefully someone will go ahead and close this thread.
@Aqua Man
I absolutely didn't expect anything from anyone, I never do :-)lol, did you seriously expect them to write you a thank you post for offering to let them ship you a new in box light that you would return used and unsellable?
You are trying to compare LED to the other light sources as if we were ever making such comparisons. No one was making any comparisons. Notice I posted this in the LED thread for that reason. But thanks for your opinion.
I absolutely didn't expect anything from anyone, I never do :-)
However.. They are making claims about their lights that a fair amount of forum members are disputing, what's a better way than letting a forum member try it, could be anyone, I just happened to offer it
I think they offered to anyone that’s been here a while he’ll they offered me a light too! Lol why would they want my newbie opinion? They know us new guys have little to compare too and will be thrilled with almost any result ! I don’t think they really want one of you guys run in and reviewing the light in public.Sorry i turned them down up front for being dishonest about their company and stingy with the level of lamp offered. And the lamp specs are lacking for the price. They are preying on beginners and i really resent that.
In all fairness, sf isn't the only company that lies to potential customers. From what I've seen, all the Chinese companies do it. It's part of eastern culture.I think they offered to anyone that’s been here a while he’ll they offered me a light too! Lol why would they want my newbie opinion? They know us new guys have little to compare too and will be thrilled with almost any result ! I don’t think they really want one of you guys run in and reviewing the light in public.
Nobody said they won't grow decent bud. The problem is they lie. The par numbers have been proven to be a lie and they still won't correct it.you guys are kind ridiculous.
like I have posted in my previous threads. Solid light at a solid price. Can’t speak for the new sf7000 as I’m as unhappy as some with the change in components.
The proof is in the results. I use them. And that’s saying a lot. Swapped out gavita 600hps for them, and better results.
results don’t lie.
Mr.G
I wouldn’t lie for lights. Only for the wife.Nobody said they won't grow decent bud. The problem is they lie. The par numbers have been proven to be a lie and they still won't correct it.
I just have to wonder if sf gave you a free light to lie for them?
For sure, I used to be in the manufacturing business- I’ve had multiple products manufactured in China, since you have seen the culture you know! Lmao no matter how bad it gets here it’s still better than there!In all fairness, sf isn't the only company that lies to potential customers. From what I've seen, all the Chinese companies do it. It's part of eastern culture.
Having lived in Korea and visiting several far east countries, I definitely see the pattern. If you don't lie to sell your product, you are considered a moron.
Thank you for changing the subject from hate hate hate.