L.E.D. Argument Thread For Dummies:)

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Flexnerb

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it wasnt at mississippi. Thats where skunkman sam was.

Its all in his book. And well accounted.
Did he write in his book he was a sellout snitch?

If you look at with honest eyes. all the westerners really went over there for was to mooch and snitch.

We'll go to europe live there for a while set up shop then rat on people...the dea is funny shit!

Fuck that fucking looser piece shit sam the skunkman..sam the shitman is more like it....tell him i said too. Idgaf
 
Flexnerb

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I'm gonna say that depends on use... it will decline over time... I would say reasonably 5 yrs. But can probably stretch that to 10 understanding that you will be losing some of the light produced the longer it goes.
A Cree 3590 with a proper heat sink would have no problem hitting 5 years regardless of how hard you pushed it but many of these lights I see are probably 18 months tops.

Does hlg put lenses on every diode.

With Lenses on diodes do last longer? Or do i need a study to prove this...lol
 
MIMedGrower

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Did he write in his book he was a sellout snitch?

If you look at with honest eyes. all the westerners really went over there for was to mooch and snitch.

We'll go to europe live there for a while set up shop then rat on people...the dea is funny shit!

Fuck that fucking looser piece shit sam the skunkman..sam the shitman is more like it....tell him i said too. Idgaf


Yeah i meant eds book about the real testing they did. It was a comment to answer a different comment. We werent talking about sam.
 
Homesteader

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Does hlg put lenses on every diode.

With Lenses on diodes do last longer? Or do i need a study to prove this...lol

What kind of lenses are you talking about? Cree and Osram and probably others use silcone domes for lenses on their higher powered diodes.
 
Flexnerb

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What kind of lenses are you talking about? Cree and Osram and probably others use silcone domes for lenses on their higher powered diodes.

I was looking to purchase an led. You could select if you wanted lenses. I thought it was on the hlg website like. Or. Years ago. That you could have them install lenses...im not familiar with leds so i cant give an answer on what kind.

Cree's they're the shit.... They look the part and are very promising for the future....like to see a 200watt version. Thought they were supposed to come out with one?

Just went on their site im not seeing anything about lenses..has ti be a different company..lol my memory isnt the greatest!
 
MIMedGrower

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I was looking to purchase an led. You could select if you wanted lenses. I thought it was on the hlg website like. Or. Years ago. That you could have them install lenses...im not familiar with leds so i cant give an answer on what kind.

Cree's they're the shit.... They look the part and are very promising for the future....like to see a 200watt version. Thought they were supposed to come out with one?

Just went on their site im not seeing anything about lenses..has ti be a different company..lol my memory isnt the greatest!


do you maybe mean reflectors for cobs?
 
Flexnerb

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do you maybe mean reflectors for cobs?
It was a extra charge like 80$ for them to put lenses on thr diodes. They claimed longer kife with them. Wether thats a fact remains unclear to me. Wouldnt they get hotter? HIDs the hotter they get they better they run?
They were dome shaped i remember that. They did kind of resemble silicone a little too..

It most likely was the nextgen site i seen these on. Nextgen just popped in my head and i looked and yeah im pretty sure thats the one....
 
MIMedGrower

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It was a extra charge like 80$ for them to put lenses on thr diodes. They claimed longer kife with them. Wether thats a fact remains unclear to me. Wouldnt they get hotter? HIDs the hotter they get they better they run?
They were dome shaped i remember that. They did kind of resemble silicone a little too..


I dont know man.
 
Homesteader

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Okay now I understand. Yeah those lenses will definitely concentrate the footprint but it would require you to mount it higher because of it but then again it depends on what diode you are concentrating. Not positive on how much extra heat they create but most of the the heat is transferring from the diode to the heatsink in the back.

So also there is a UL code for commercial agricultural lights that puts a minimum standard on the horticultural light industry and I believe one of those standards is having a cover over the diode with some kind of lens or cover. Perhaps that is why they were using it. Maybe they were playing towards that side of the industry.

I suspect this is also why you see many DIY kits that are just about made.
 
MIGrampaUSA

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No. Even the shen zen direct kingbrite has a thinner finned black sink than maiju that offeres 15 mm.

Every manufacturer saves their pennies differently.
Actually Kingbrite is now offering the 15 mm heatsink on some of the newer models .... its not across the whole product line though. They are also still selling some with 10 mm heatsinks. I was looking at them the other night, mainly to see what shipping is running now. Shipping costs have gone down some recently.
 
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What humidity you led guys run your tents in flower?
OK - I'll jump in - I'm in Canada, grow tents are kept no higher than 50% RH and the house they are in is set for 50% RH with a real serious dehumidifier. I've never had to nor do I use a humidifier. My 5x5 has the new G8-C3 LED and my 3x3 the old blurple G8-450 vedge/flower + UFO red light. So, yah, I'm a G8 fan but I definitely scouted out the better LEDs on the market before deciding on the C3. It's a pretty awesome unit in every way - perfect for a 5x5 without CO2. I looked at the Diablo 650, HLG, Gavita, and more...the only item I didn't take into consideration was cost. Very happy with it - on my first run, finishing off vedge right now.
 
MIGrampaUSA

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OK - I'll jump in - I'm in Canada, grow tents are kept no higher than 50% RH and the house they are in is set for 50% RH with a real serious dehumidifier. I've never had to nor do I use a humidifier. My 5x5 has the new G8-C3 LED and my 3x3 the old blurple G8-450 vedge/flower + UFO red light. So, yah, I'm a G8 fan but I definitely scouted out the better LEDs on the market before deciding on the C3. It's a pretty awesome unit in every way - perfect for a 5x5 without CO2. I looked at the Diablo 650, HLG, Gavita, and more...the only item I didn't take into consideration was cost. Very happy with it - on my first run, finishing off vedge right now.
Do you have a link to your light? I'm tossing around some ideas right now since I added another tent to my collection recently.

Edit: I found it. Yes, it's not the cheapest light, that's for sure. I do like the lay-out and how well it would cover a 5 x 5 though
 
Mr.GreenthumbOG

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OK - I'll jump in - I'm in Canada, grow tents are kept no higher than 50% RH and the house they are in is set for 50% RH with a real serious dehumidifier. I've never had to nor do I use a humidifier. My 5x5 has the new G8-C3 LED and my 3x3 the old blurple G8-450 vedge/flower + UFO red light. So, yah, I'm a G8 fan but I definitely scouted out the better LEDs on the market before deciding on the C3. It's a pretty awesome unit in every way - perfect for a 5x5 without CO2. I looked at the Diablo 650, HLG, Gavita, and more...the only item I didn't take into consideration was cost. Very happy with it - on my first run, finishing off vedge right now.
Not taking cost into consideration, the ideal way to buy the best LED on the planet earth. Not Mars.............................hydro. Etc. Etc etc.
 
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