Ethos Seeds "Candy Store" under 2 Gavita Pro 1700e LED's

[_VLAD_]

Looks like older tech lights, that may be the prob?

 

[sshz]

Could those be fluorescents?

 

[Cohi]

Nah, my first run using the 1700e lights so im in the learning curve on these. My room temps were too cool initially and i ended up getting a heater for the room which did help start to speed things up. While exotics says this retired strain is a heavy yielder, i’ll chalk up any lesser performance to cool temps and my own inexperience with these lights.

10 clones, 10g pots, promix, mostly canna nutrients. Had an early ph issue in three pots so veg went a little longer as i resolved that and got room temps up a bit.

lights are about 20” from main tops which probably should have been dropped a but further to better reach the majority of tops which were a little lower.

supposed to be a 63 +/- day strain

 

[Anthem]

Looks like older tech lights, that may be the prob?

They are Gavita 1650E or 1700E. Mostly likely 1700E. You can see the light adaptor hanging off the fixture at the top of the picture.
It has GSC in its linage and that is known to not be a big producer.

 

[Cohi]

They are Gavita 1650E or 1700E. Mostly likely 1700E. You can see the light adaptor hanging off the fixture at the top of the picture.
It has GSC in its linage and that is known to not be a big producer.

They are the 1700e - just a few months old. This was my second (and last) run of this strain. GG4 going in there when the room flips next week.

Thanks for the info in the GSC :)

 

[sshz]

It’s amazing how mine stay so short and others are growing trees........lol

What hasn’t been discussed is I have the lights jammed in a 4 x 4 space, with 95% reflective plastic on the walls. Probably no one is getting the intensity I am as most grow in 5 x 5 spaces. The intensity goes a long way to keep everything shorter.

 

[Anthem]

It’s amazing how mine stay so short and others are growing trees........lol

What hasn’t been discussed is I have the lights jammed in a 4 x 4 space, with 95% reflective plastic on the walls. Probably no one is getting the intensity I am as most grow in 5 x 5 spaces. The intensity goes a long way to keep everything shorter.

Well there is thread on this site that has a different take on things. The poster has the lights connected to a control and is using an apogee light meter. He is getting 10 percent less out of the lights using the control. So I have that concern at this point.

 

[sshz]

Not sure what your are surmising........But are you saying when run thru a controller, there is less intensity? or maybe the controller is not set properly?

By the way, I had my adapters and controller up on eBay for 2 months at a great discount and never got a bite or any interest at all.

 

[Anthem]

Not sure what your are surmising........But are you saying when run thru a controller, there is less intensity? or maybe the controller is not set properly?

By the way, I had my adapters and controller up on eBay for 2 months at a great discount and never got a bite or any interest at all.

Must read for anyone with Gavita LED
Sshz above is the title of the thread. I asked him a couple questions and he had the correct answers so I do not know. It seems possible but I have not checked it out because I have plants under the lights at this time. It might be true because the first couple of grows I did with the 1650e I was getting great results around yours and things started to fall off about the same time I added a controller. So I am concerned but I did not follow the rule I learned many years ago from a competitive sport. CHANGE ONE THING AT A TIME.

 

[sshz]

I'm checking to see what gavita has to say about it.......I'll let you know.

OK, I've sent a message to gavita relaying "our" concerns- lets see what they cone back with. Although, I'm not expecting an honest or thorough answer. I

t does seem with many electronics, the more devices you run things thru, the less effective (for lack of a better word) they become. You are running power thru the master controller and then the adapter and then on to the LED's. I'm sure there is an electronic term for this........

So I do see info on a power drop when running long cables, and also line resistance from running unit to unit. So I think what is going on can be expected. Let's see what Gavita's comment are- and of course they would never say a word about it.

 

[Anthem]

I'm checking to see what gavita has to say about it.......I'll let you know.

OK, I've sent a message to gavita relaying "our" concerns- lets see what they cone back with. Although, I'm not expecting an honest or thorough answer. I

t does seem with many electronics, the more devices you run things thru, the less effective (for lack of a better word) they become. You are running power thru the master controller and then the adapter and then on to the LED's. I'm sure there is an electronic term for this........

So I do see info on a power drop when running long cables, and also line resistance from running unit to unit. So I think what is going on can be expected. Let's see what Gavita's comment are- and of course they would never say a word about it.

The Controllers and the E adaptors work a little different. The Controller (Trolmaster in this case) runs low voltage current to the E series adaptor. Line voltage runs thru the adaptor to the light. There should not be any difference in running the controller and not running the controller. Fluence does it by running the low voltage input into the driver itself.

 

[sshz]

Candy Store pic off of Leafly...........

 

[Anthem]

The Controllers and the E adaptors work a little different. The Controller (Trolmaster in this case) runs low voltage current to the E series adaptor. Line voltage runs thru the adaptor to the light. There should not be any difference in running the controller and not running the controller. Fluence does it by running the low voltage input into the driver itself.

So I got an email back from Trolmaster already and this is not bullshit. Gavita allows the lights to be ran at 115 percent with a controller. So these rat bastards have done it again. I am just about done with Gavita with all of their bullshit. I have the 1650e's as well. When I sat those up I had a bad e series adaptor so I ordered another one and it took months to come in. I was running the lights thru a heavy duty timer. When it came in it was a completely different unit. Larger and had waterproof connectors. I must have spent a good 20 hours working on getting the two to work together. They also changed the plug from a 6 wire RS connector to an 8 wire RS connector and the bitches changed the conductors that carry the low voltage to the e series adaptor to get the e series adaptors to communicate with the light. Meaning I had to cut the cable apart and move the wires around so the adaptors would talk to each other because they are daisy changed. They make good stuff but this is total bullshit and I am just going to go with Fluence in the future.

 

[sshz]

So that's 1 yes for the Gavita and a bunch of NO's......... LOL

Love the LED's, but fuck the Master Controller and adapters. I knew in just 10 minutes playing round with them they weren't worth the effort or price. Everyone kept telling me you can save sooooo much money by dimming them early on- yeah, like $6 a month. It take me 5 minutes to raise/lower and balance both of them. Some day I'll find some sucker to buy everything- lights, controller and adapters and be done with it all. But for 2 more years, I'm growing with them and loving the yield.

 

[sshz]

So, after doing some extended research regarding getting control of the room and house pot smell, I have decidedly passed on the HVAC Air Scrubber with Ozone. I've just read too many negative things about it with people dealing with Asthma and breathing issues. I wanted it and was willing to spend the $900, but I'm trying to make things better, not worse.

After a lot of research, this one unit I found comes up over and over. It's a large floor unit, 28 inches high. It has an ultra rating for moving way more air (like 35% more) than any other available similar unit. This beast can clean an area of around 2400 sq. ft., if doors are left open for the air to circulate. My 1st floor area is around 1400 sq. ft., so it's overkill. Filters need to be replaced every 6 months for around $100 to be effective, but use their filters and you get a lifetime warranty. So 2 filters on 2 sides of the unit (Charcoal for smell and H13 Hepa (the best) for particles, dust, pollen, dander, etc.). It also has an ionizer, which will produce ozone at a very safe level- very very low amount. You can turn it on or off if you wish.

I know someone that knows someone that has one and he said his allergies and coughing have improved greatly. Very high reviews on Amazon, independent testing, etc. It should be here maybe by Friday, I'm hoping I like it enough to put one on each floor.

I know now you're asking already......HOW MUCH is this big boy????????
Delivered $563 with discount. White or black, the wife wanted white. So be it.

MA-112 Air Purifier

Massive coverage for your home or business. Cleans the air in large spaces with a three-layer filter that has True HEPA H13 media to quietly remove 99.9% of particles, down to 0.1 microns.

medifyair.com

 

[sshz]

Check this video out.....Ethos "Crescendo RBX1"

LOL

 

[NrthTaylor]

So, after doing some extended research regarding getting control of the room and house pot smell, I have decidedly passed on the HVAC Air Scrubber with Ozone. I've just read too many negative things about it with people dealing with Asthma and breathing issues. I wanted it and was willing to spend the $900, but I'm trying to make things better, not worse.

After a lot of research, this one unit I found comes up over and over. It's a large floor unit, 28 inches high. It has an ultra rating for moving way more air (like 35% more) than any other available similar unit. This beast can clean an area of around 2400 sq. ft., if doors are left open for the air to circulate. My 1st floor area is around 1400 sq. ft., so it's overkill. Filters need to be replaced every 6 months for around $100 to be effective, but use their filters and you get a lifetime warranty. So 2 filters on 2 sides of the unit (Charcoal for smell and H13 Hepa (the best) for particles, dust, pollen, dander, etc.). It also has an ionizer, which will produce ozone at a very safe level- very very low amount. You can turn it on or off if you wish.

I know someone that knows someone that has one and he said his allergies and coughing have improved greatly. Very high reviews on Amazon, independent testing, etc. It should be here maybe by Friday, I'm hoping I like it enough to put one on each floor.

I know now you're asking already......HOW MUCH is this big boy????????
Delivered $563 with discount. White or black, the wife wanted white. So be it.

MA-112 Air Purifier

Massive coverage for your home or business. Cleans the air in large spaces with a three-layer filter that has True HEPA H13 media to quietly remove 99.9% of particles, down to 0.1 microns.

medifyair.com

I've never even thought about one of these. Do they actually make a difference with your quality of breathing indoors? I'll definitely be asking tons of questions once you bite the bullet and have it lol !

 

[Madmax]

Check this video out.....Ethos "Crescendo RBX1"

LOL

Sounds the go..how would you go keeping them short..how talls your room sshz

 

[sshz]

I've never even thought about one of these. Do they actually make a difference with your quality of breathing indoors? I'll definitely be asking tons of questions once you bite the bullet and have it lol !

A BIG DIFFERENCE, so people say. I currently am running a Hepa floor unit by another company and it's made a nice difference in my basement. Not smell wise, but definitely dust and pollen. I expect to eventually have a unit on each floor of the house.

 

[sshz]

Sounds the go..how would you go keeping them short..how talls your room sshz

As I've said, I think I could grow a Haze and keep them short with these LED's. So, I'd keep the lights close, pinch and top when necessary, keep night temps warmer and defoliate heavily. Yield worries me a bit though, so it's probably not for me.