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[GNick55]

You’re getting robbed with the Amazon prices. Looks like you live in a urban area and can find all the soils at $12-$15 for the 1.5/2cf bags. (Tons of grow stores sell the dirt at cost, so you’ll come in and blow a bunch of money on worthless nutrients.)

(Not sure where you’re getting your info but FFOF is an organic blend and doesn’t use synthetic nutes.)

+1

 

[Aqua Man]

What grow style are you planning. Most don't realize how powerful these lights are and for decent spread without strips you really need to pay attention to that.

If you buy the 5000 then make sure it fits in your 2x4 unless you are immediately upgrading cause that would suck for ya.

Honestly whichever light you go with I suggest running it at 80% slightly better efficacy but with one you prob won't see any noticeable difference but because of the cooler running tenls it will go a long way in extending the life the fixture and the slight reduction of light output over time.

You on the right track you want a passive cooled fixture with decent components.

You will really thank yourself of you go with one that has better spread like a strip light. Especially in a tent where height can be an issue.... it imo most important part. Of it need a 3 ft hanging height you will hate it no matter how much ppfd it has and the ppfd won't matter because you won't be able to utilize it.

It's all about net photosynthesis and this is why spread is an absolutely crucial consideration. Imo 2 240 is better than a 500..

Warranty is another consideration

 

[Aqua Man]

I kinda always think it’s not the equipment, it’s the grower .. so as long as I do w I’m supposed to I think I’ll be ok regardless of medium, lights or nutrients .. Hints why I’m doing so much research on w plants need at certain stages and different feeding techniques..

It's good to see that... never a bad thing to go finding answers and then get opinions on them. Honestly your putting the work in before just posting so good on you.

 

[CurtisBlow916]

What grow style are you planning. Most don't realize how powerful these lights are and for decent spread without strips you really need to pay attention to that.

If you buy the 5000 then make sure it fits in your 2x4 unless you are immediately upgrading cause that would suck for ya.

Honestly whichever light you go with I suggest running it at 80% slightly better efficacy but with one you prob won't see any noticeable difference but because of the cooler running tenls it will go a long way in extending the life the fixture and the slight reduction of light output over time.

You on the right track you want a passive cooled fixture with decent components.

You will really thank yourself of you go with one that has better spread like a strip light. Especially in a tent where height can be an issue.... it imo most important part. Of it need a 3 ft hanging height you will hate it no matter how much ppfd it has and the ppfd won't matter because you won't be able to utilize it.

It's all about net photosynthesis and this is why spread is an absolutely crucial consideration. Imo 2 240 is better than a 500..

Warranty is another consideration

I’m going in a 4x8 so I’m sure it’ll fit but I noticed that you have tells option to mount the driver outside of the tent resulting in less environmental heat

 

[CurtisBlow916]

It's good to see that... never a bad thing to go finding answers and then get opinions on them. Honestly your putting the work in before just posting so good on you.

There’s a crazy crazy forum I was just reading on here and it’s actually insane

Thread 'Best Dang Nute Side By Side Testing I Have Ever Seen!!!'
https://www.thcfarmer.com/threads/best-dang-nute-side-by-side-testing-i-have-ever-seen.73074/

I LOVE DATA To see that this was posted back in 2015 is wild I was still smoking blue dream

 

[Aqua Man]

What grow style are you planning. Most don't realize how powerful these lights are and for decent spread without strips you really need to pay attention to that.

If you buy the 5000 then make sure it fits in your 2x4 unless you are immediately upgrading cause that would suck for ya.

Honestly whichever light you go with I suggest running it at 80% slightly better efficacy but with one you prob won't see any noticeable difference but because of the cooler running tenls it will go a long way in extending the life the fixture and the slight reduction of light output over time.

You on the right track you want a passive cooled fixture with decent components.

You will really thank yourself of you go with one that has better spread like a strip light. Especially in a tent where height can be an issue.... it imo most important part. Of it need a 3 ft hanging height you will hate it no matter how much ppfd it has and the ppfd won't matter because you won't be able to utilize it.

It's all about net photosynthesis and this is why spread is an absolutely crucial consideration. Imo 2 240 is better than a 500..

Warranty is another consideration

Wow aqua English much???? Wtb autocorrect that speaks da England dialog so ppl don't think I'm typing with a crayon 🖍🖍🖍

 

[Aqua Man]

I’m going in a 4x8 so I’m sure it’ll fit but I noticed that you have tells option to mount the driver outside of the tent resulting in less environmental heat

Yup simple 18gauge solid core is what I used to do this myself.

 

[mancorn]

I’ve checked the label, ingredients and have been staying updated with FFOF and they recently changed there label and took off the word organic and after wondering why I asked my local hydro store and they said they reason is such but after doin my own reading I’ve come to confirm that.

Can you post a link to your source(s) - I’d be interested in the FF switch to synthetics.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

I see blood in the water. Call me when the light fight is pau.

 

[LexLuthor]

Again, you far better off with a spider type light, with those diodes, not the quantum config. It's good, but it's not good as these types. VIPARSPECTRA I'm assuming is samsung certified, not for sure, but in all likelyhood, yes.

LIke this: Which is a little more powerful, and will penetrate the canopy far better.

Spider Farmer SE3000 300W Led Grow Lights Dimmable Full Spectrum

Spider Farmer SE3000 300W led grow lights with Samsung LM301B diodes, cover 2x2 FT(70x70cm). High efficacy and good heat dissipation, perfect for indoor grow.

www.spider-farmer.com

Plus, your getting 2 lights, for nearly the same price. Each light is more power, and more efficient...
But I think that offer expires tomorrow....

If you buy the se3000 for $340, you get a 75 watt light for free, not another se3000, just wanted to clear that up in case anyone thought they would get 2 se3000's for the price of 1.

 

[LexLuthor]

Don't buy any soil online, they rape you on price. Your local hydro shop should have it for no more than $20, max. I would also avoid using so many different nutrient lines, just stick to 1 company. Good luck.

 

[iX_Lazy_Xi]

You don’t think 4 viper spectras will get the job done?

4 xs2000 put you right at the 960 watt you get from the 30 wpf most go by. I dont believe they truly draw 240w as shown on driver, but it is a solid light and price was down recently that I saw. SF also has quality products if you get the right model. Comes down to how you wanna spend your

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Can you post a link to your source(s) - I’d be interested in the FF switch to synthetics.

Me too.

 

[Frankster]

If you buy the se3000 for $340, you get a 75 watt light for free, not another se3000, just wanted to clear that up in case anyone thought they would get 2 se3000's for the price of 1.

Thanks for clearing it up, yea. I thought you got 2 of them, sorry. Must have been smoking some really good dope last night.

 

[Frankster]

Don't buy any soil online, they rape you on price. Your local hydro shop should have it for no more than $20, max. I would also avoid using so many different nutrient lines, just stick to 1 company. Good luck.

Yes, the shipping kills it, I think. Coco is the best way to go online, I believe.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Thanks for clearing it up, yea. I thought you got 2 of them, sorry. Must have been smoking some really good dope last night.

It wasn't what you were smoking. It's a marketing technique called purposeful misleading, or something like that. It really says one thing but it looks like it says something way better.
We did a study in school on this. It's amazing these people aren't in jail for the kind of lies they get away with.

 

[CurtisBlow916]

Thanks for clearing it up, yea. I thought you got 2 of them, sorry. Must have been smoking some really good dope last night.

Lol, Yea I was gonna pull the trigger but I read it again and that’s why I started looking at the 5000 instead

 

[CurtisBlow916]

Me too.

Gotchu

*note this guy doesn’t get paid by any company whatsoever

Looking for more references now but there mostly other people talking about the changes in podcast

 

[Frankster]

Lol, Yea I was gonna pull the trigger but I read it again and that’s why I started looking at the 5000 instead

Yea, I think the 5000 and 7000 is better if your sitting in an appropriate footprint. That said, the 3000's will allow you to get farther down on them. Personally, I think that's the best approach, because of the laws of photon, and distance.

LED's are going to be most efficient (stronger) at the nearest focusable point, all things said. The technology aside, simply bring them up close to the light makes a huge difference, but the spacing/spectrum needs to be precise.

Most (almost all) of the shit in use today is using 120 degree angles of attack.

 

[ComfortablyNumb]

Gotchu

*note this guy doesn’t get paid by any company whatsoever

I suspected this. This last grow had some issues that it shouln'tve. This answers it.