grnmtn
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AZ Chuck where are you?
I wanna see your buds and how many weeks till finish? I'm thinking 10 to ?
I wanna see your buds and how many weeks till finish? I'm thinking 10 to ?
Puritybread
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I read someone on here posted that BAM is a cross between Black Congolese x Swazi Rooi Bart. How true could this statement be because by looking at the coloration of those strains that's very likely. Who's up for some experimental cross breeding? I found a possible source for Black Congolese just having trouble finding the Swazi Rooi Bart seeds that is of course if this strain isn't the true Black african magic. What do you guys think could this possibly be it?
Puritybread
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I had bought some of these seeds they didn't get good germ rates maybe the seed were old.
Interesting just found this extreme colored bud,Asia
Interesting thing is majority of the Phenos are green, and the rest black purpleish…per article!!!
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Genetics: Pure Manipuri Ganja Plant
Latitude: 24°N
Regional Harvest: mid December to mid January
Height: 1m - 4m in natural outdoor environment
Yield: up to1kg or more of dried flowers in natural outdoor environment
Aroma: earthy, light citrus, minty when cured
Characteristics: strong 'sativa' high, smooth smoking
Traditional Purpose: ganja
Grow Type: greenhouse or outdoors
A surprisingly strong 'sativa' from the traditional ganja growing region of Imphal Valley, Manipur. Rare and little known in the West.
The Meitei people of Manipur have a long tradition of growing strong ganja, and are related to the Shan and Thai; like them the Meitei originally migrated south to their present home from Yunnan, China. Manipur is in Northeast India, on the border with Burma - ganja culture here is at the frontier of India, to the west, and Indochina to the east. The genetics of this strain may reflect this.
Manipuri ganja plants can grow up to 4 metres tall. Most are green with a light earthy citrus aroma, curing to smooth minty ganja. A minority of plants are purple; this is the prized 'chahao' type ('chahao' being the Meitei name for black rice). Fields are usually sown around June to July and harvested in December to January. Females are usually allowed to be lightly seeded. The traditional technique is to semi dry buds, then bind them tightly with cloth and leave them for one day. Once bound together like this buds are then unpackaged and left to dry in the sun, after which they are cured for a couple of months. Even after such rough treatment this Manipuri strain is surprisingly strong, as strong as good Thai or Lao ganja, and smokes very smoothly. It would be very interesting to see how these plants perform with kinder Western techniques. Little seen genetics with promising breeding potential.
Puritybread
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ThisWell, been doing a bit MORE digging and found some very interesting information! So it turns out that apparently African Black Magic is actually a cross breed hybrid of Swazi Rooi Bart cannabis strain and the Black Congolese! Which genetically explains the green/black AND the blue/black phenotype!
I assure you that the legendary phenotype that DJ Short wrote about is an actual BLACK plant! The curing process is NOT what makes it black! My friend says the seeds are 'pitch black' and the plants start put really dark, almost like too much nitrogen, but the plant starts turning black about knee high and is not determined by flowering cycle or cold temps! It's genetics!!!
If and when I finally get the REAL African Black Magic cannabis landrace seeds, then I will grow them out to stabilize the strain, but you will see that everything that I've said has been absolutely TRUE! THEN, you will be amazed! It's gonna happen!
To be honest though, I don't see any darkness to the buds of Black Magic Kush here in the pics... bright green.
I will keep updates going brother!
Good luck and happy growing! View attachment 1155126
grnmtn
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I have to disagree. I smoked quite a bit and it's definitely not from an all black plant.
There were two phenos of Bam that I smoked in the 80s and oddly enough look like the two I have. Black in the buds for sure on the real deal but the gold dust on it was even more amazing. The rounder bud pheno didn't even have much black at all but the longer buds pheno sure did.
I think people are chasing an internet pic. I smoked it before it was created and there was no hype.
grnmtn
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There has got to be people who were in WI or MI in that 80s timeframe who had to smoke as much or more of it than me out there. Where are they?
I lost contact with the others who smoked it with me over time. Too bad.
I lost contact with the others who smoked it with me over time. Too bad.
extractoilminussixty
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extractoilminussixty
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Bam pic., someone said it looked like a female
I think I agree !?!
Very close internodes spacing top 4.
(one more week till topping, clone the top)
compared to GSC Autoflower
I think I agree !?!
Very close internodes spacing top 4.
(one more week till topping, clone the top)
compared to GSC Autoflower
grnmtn
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Very pretty. Dry ice method?
extractoilminussixty
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Bubble Hash Method, my favorite, but a lot of work…
Ice & Water in 5 gal bucket with filter bags 160um & 220um stir stir stir…dry dry dry roll roll roll …age 1 Yr. ;)
Smell and taste are exquisite, especially when using fruity strains GSC etc
VoodooChild
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Oh man you don't have a work or something I mean be part of stoned interactions can be difficult
Puritybread
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So I had some conversations a with an vietnam war veteran friend of mine a a couple months back ( smokes up in this super dope old Chinese silver opium pipe which gets super clogged with herb resin to the point he has to boil it out cause every glass bowl he gets does the same thing and I need to get him a dynavap some RSO or something poor man says he can barley even handle smoking anymore) he said that they used to smoke something called black elephant or they also called it elephant weed. After seeing the original picture of BAM in this thread and then hearing his stories I was like no way could this be something similar? He also said he smoked some kind of weed from africa if i recall correctly called black mamba? But he said the elephant weed buds were so dark they looked black and was strong he said you couldn't even roll it in a joint you had to put it in a bowl cause it would clog up the joint!. Who knows could this have been pure weed that generates that much resin?
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Puritybread
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Also this is a picture of malawi gold x purple haze I just received some of these seeds buds look beautiful.
grnmtn
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Looks like it's starting to get that yellow/ gold look that I remember. I hope this really is it. However, these do not seem to be 8 week flowering plants, I can see these going for a while.
jimihendrixsantana
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@VoodooChild im a lover of landraces, CAUSE they are mostly sideeffectsfree. There are herbs like thai that can spook you out pretty much, but in the same time they dont make you anxcious.
I think some very high Thc-Thai existed , the old thaistick, and still it was some of the most kind weeds i knew.. (but its spooky.. I think Black African could be something for you. but best would be Vietnamese, or Mexi. ) but better a black african high thc, than a modern Hybrid IMHO
I think some very high Thc-Thai existed , the old thaistick, and still it was some of the most kind weeds i knew.. (but its spooky.. I think Black African could be something for you. but best would be Vietnamese, or Mexi. ) but better a black african high thc, than a modern Hybrid IMHO
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Hey Puritybread, welcome to the thread!
Yes, I posted that info! Slight misspelling, I apologize for my first source's mistake. Rooibaard is the CORRECT spelling.
Anyway, one of my friends from Durban has the REAL African Black Magic! He's doing a seed run and should be done soon! Plus, he just bought 200 MORE! He's promised me some seeds! I'm waiting for his first shipment that's supposed to include KwaZulu landrace from just outside of Durban, Malawi and Blue Dreams that the seeds of are black! He also has the Rooibaard Transkei, but only about 30 seeds, so he's going to make more of those too! So, IF you have the BLACK Congolese and Rooibaard, then theoretically, you could make the African Black Magic!
Now my other friend from Africa is supposed to be sending me real black Congolese Black seeds a some Durban Poison seeds!
Unfortunately, it could take months to get them, if they arrive! Postal service can be difficult. We will see...
With that being said, I'm anxious to do some breeding projects myself! So my opinion is that the black dominance of the Black Congolese is the REAL catalyst in these SUPER potent black strains such as Black Magic or black Elephant weed, that you mention sounds as potent as the Black Magic!
I want to cross the Black Congolese with Durban Poison to create Black Poison, which should be high in THCV!
Here's a link:
Black Congolese (Unknown or Legendary) :: Lineage & Hybrids
Black Congolese's genetic history and all cannabis hybrids and crossings who have Unknown or Legendary's Black Congolese into his genealogy!
en.seedfinder.eu
Puritybread
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Hey Puritybread, welcome to the thread!
Yes, I posted that info! Slight misspelling, I apologize for my first source's mistake. Rooibaard is the CORRECT spelling.
Anyway, one of my friends from Durban has the REAL African Black Magic! He's doing a seed run and should be done soon! Plus, he just bought 200 MORE! He's promised me some seeds! I'm waiting for his first shipment that's supposed to include KwaZulu landrace from just outside of Durban, Malawi and Blue Dreams that the seeds of are black! He also has the Rooibaard Transkei, but only about 30 seeds, so he's going to make more of those too! So, IF you have the BLACK Congolese and Rooibaard, then theoretically, you could make the African Black Magic!
Now my other friend from Africa is supposed to be sending me real black Congolese Black seeds a some Durban Poison seeds!
Unfortunately, it could take months to get them, if they arrive! Postal service can be difficult. We will see...
With that being said, I'm anxious to do some breeding projects myself! So my opinion is that the black dominance of the Black Congolese is the REAL catalyst in these SUPER potent black strains such as Black Magic or black Elephant weed, that you mention sounds as potent as the Black Magic!
I want to cross the Black Congolese with Durban Poison to create Black Poison, which should be high in THCV!
Here's a link:
Good luck and happy growing brother!Black Congolese (Unknown or Legendary) :: Lineage & Hybrids
Black Congolese's genetic history and all cannabis hybrids and crossings who have Unknown or Legendary's Black Congolese into his genealogy!
Hey Puritybread, welcome to the thread!
Yes, I posted that info! Slight misspelling, I apologize for my first source's mistake. Rooibaard is the CORRECT spelling.
Anyway, one of my friends from Durban has the REAL African Black Magic! He's doing a seed run and should be done soon! Plus, he just bought 200 MORE! He's promised me some seeds! I'm waiting for his first shipment that's supposed to include KwaZulu landrace from just outside of Durban, Malawi and Blue Dreams that the seeds of are black! He also has the Rooibaard Transkei, but only about 30 seeds, so he's going to make more of those too! So, IF you have the BLACK Congolese and Rooibaard, then theoretically, you could make the African Black Magic!
Now my other friend from Africa is supposed to be sending me real black Congolese Black seeds a some Durban Poison seeds!
Unfortunately, it could take months to get them, if they arrive! Postal service can be difficult. We will see...
With that being said, I'm anxious to do some breeding projects myself! So my opinion is that the black dominance of the Black Congolese is the REAL catalyst in these SUPER potent black strains such as Black Magic or black Elephant weed, that you mention sounds as potent as the Black Magic!
I want to cross the Black Congolese with Durban Poison to create Black Poison, which should be high in THCV!
Here's a link:
Good luck and happy growingBlack Congolese (Unknown or Legendary) :: Lineage & Hybrids
Black Congolese's genetic history and all cannabis hybrids and crossings who have Unknown or Legendary's Black Congolese into his genealogy!
You think these are a good source for rooibaard seeds https://www.jamaicanseedbank.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=117 ? That black poison sounds like its gonna be something special. Also, I know this is a bit off topic does anyone know the genetics of the original jamaican lambsbread or where I can find some seeds of that?Hey Puritybread, welcome to the thread!
Yes, I posted that info! Slight misspelling, I apologize for my first source's mistake. Rooibaard is the CORRECT spelling.
Anyway, one of my friends from Durban has the REAL African Black Magic! He's doing a seed run and should be done soon! Plus, he just bought 200 MORE! He's promised me some seeds! I'm waiting for his first shipment that's supposed to include KwaZulu landrace from just outside of Durban, Malawi and Blue Dreams that the seeds of are black! He also has the Rooibaard Transkei, but only about 30 seeds, so he's going to make more of those too! So, IF you have the BLACK Congolese and Rooibaard, then theoretically, you could make the African Black Magic!
Now my other friend from Africa is supposed to be sending me real black Congolese Black seeds a some Durban Poison seeds!
Unfortunately, it could take months to get them, if they arrive! Postal service can be difficult. We will see...
With that being said, I'm anxious to do some breeding projects myself! So my opinion is that the black dominance of the Black Congolese is the REAL catalyst in these SUPER potent black strains such as Black Magic or black Elephant weed, that you mention sounds as potent as the Black Magic!
I want to cross the Black Congolese with Durban Poison to create Black Poison, which should be high in THCV!
Here's a link:
Good luck and happy growing brother!Black Congolese (Unknown or Legendary) :: Lineage & Hybrids
Black Congolese's genetic history and all cannabis hybrids and crossings who have Unknown or Legendary's Black Congolese into his genealogy!
grnmtn
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That strain was Bob Marley's favorite strain.
Phenohunter420
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I don't know as I've never bought from them.
Phenohunter420
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I'm working on getting some Rooibaard seeds! I will let you know if I can!
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