Which has better yields, more colas or beefing up fewer colas

[Pushrod Monkey]

The humic acid in Worm Castings stimulate plant growth, even in very low concentrations. The humic acid is in an ionically distributed state in which it can easily be absorbed by the plant, over and above any normal mineral nutrients. Humic acid also stimulates the development of micro flora populations in the soil.

https://www.burlington.ca/en/services-for-you/resources/Parks_and_Open_Spaces/Community-Gardens/CG-Worm-Castings.pdf

I’m well aware of the utilization of both humic and fulvic acids. Again I only say there’s far better sources than EWC. Fulvic is more useful than humic as far as nutrient uptake by plants.

 

[growsince79]

The humic acid in Worm Castings stimulate plant growth, even in very low concentrations. The humic acid is in an ionically distributed state in which it can easily be absorbed by the plant, over and above any normal mineral nutrients. Humic acid also stimulates the development of micro flora populations in the soil.

https://www.burlington.ca/en/services-for-you/resources/Parks_and_Open_Spaces/Community-Gardens/CG-Worm-Castings.pdf

Actually you said: "Worm castings DO NOT provide fulvic or humic acids."

That is 100% incorrect. It's ok; I've been wrong plenty of times myself. The important thing is we learn and move on.

 

[Pushrod Monkey]

Actually you said: "Worm castings DO NOT provide fulvic or humic acids."

That is 100% incorrect. It's ok; I've been wrong plenty of times myself. The important thing is we learn and move on.

Okay. They don’t supply them in any significant amount and you haven’t brought anything scientific or even halfway scientific saying otherwise.

So they’re an immeasurable bonus in EWC but not a reason for using it or not supplementing it.

 

[Ponky]

My last batch was topped to often as I had to flip mothers. Ended up with nothing but cola buds and under larth. But it was too many tops. And the buds are all mediums. Would have been better off with bigger colas for ease of trimming. I find the ideal bud size comes when I top once. And between 1 or 2 plants per light. Too many tops adds too much labor. And Un topped makes my main buds too big. And they often get rot. So. Sweet spot is IMO a single topping.

 

[growsince79]

Okay. They don’t supply them in any significant amount and you haven’t brought anything scientific or even halfway scientific saying otherwise.

So they’re an immeasurable bonus in EWC but not a reason for using it or not supplementing it.

There's tons of scientific studies that prove you wrong. Idk why you still want to argue your losing case. You're as bad as my ex lol.

Research

RESEARCH This page contains documents and links to studies from universities, the USDA and other professionals in the worm casting industry. These documents further detail the benefits of adding...

www.casting4growth.com

 

[Ponky]

https://burnabyredwigglers.wordpres...d-the-essence-of-good-compost-soil-and-water/ worm castings article. Not bad.

 

[growsince79]

My last batch was topped to often as I had to flip mothers. Ended up with nothing but cola buds and under larth. But it was too many tops. And the buds are all mediums. Would have been better off with bigger colas for ease of trimming. I find the ideal bud size comes when I top once. And between 1 or 2 plants per light. Too many tops adds too much labor. And Un topped makes my main buds too big. And they often get rot. So. Sweet spot is IMO a single topping.

Topped once or twice; 4-6 nice size colas/sqft works great. With the right strain that's about 2oz/sqft. Too many small colas reduce yield in my garden.

 

[Pushrod Monkey]

There's tons of scientific studies that prove you wrong. Idk why you still want to argue your losing case. You're as bad as my ex lol.

Research

RESEARCH This page contains documents and links to studies from universities, the USDA and other professionals in the worm casting industry. These documents further detail the benefits of adding...

www.casting4growth.com

Post up an actual analysis. A real analysis. Shouldn’t be hard. If there’s a claim that’s valid it’s based on more than anecdotal evidence. Post it up and I’ll shut up about it.

 

[growsince79]

Post up an actual analysis. A real analysis. Shouldn’t be hard. If there’s a claim that’s valid it’s based on more than anecdotal evidence. Post it up and I’ll shut up about it.

I just did-click on the links and read them. Are Ohio State and Cornell University studies not good enough for you?

 

[rDWCNoob]

Im just going to leave this here as my 2 cents lol. Im not the one in the video but its a source I respect and his results speak for themselves. In my personal opinion, all those additives and other crap are unnecessary. All you need is a balanced 20-10-20 nutrient line with a bit of extra phosphorus during flower and youre golden. Everything after that is based on your environment. Temp, vpd, airflow, lighting etc. Feeding plants is easy and doesnt require super complex mixtures and additives to get right. Whats not easy at times is is controlling your environment. You get that down and it wont really matter what medium or nutrients you use, so long as its a balanced nutrient.

 

[TryingToGrow]

I say you have 3 options - (1) Natural growth, (2) 1 cola/bud only or (3) as many buds as possibly, make plant grow horizontally until 2 weeks into flower, 1 week vertically, 1 week horizontally and the let it finish of with horizontal growth.

I use option 1 because it seems the most responsible.

 

[Mcsketcher]

My last batch was topped to often as I had to flip mothers. Ended up with nothing but cola buds and under larth. But it was too many tops. And the buds are all mediums. Would have been better off with bigger colas for ease of trimming. I find the ideal bud size comes when I top once. And between 1 or 2 plants per light. Too many tops adds too much labor. And Un topped makes my main buds too big. And they often get rot. So. Sweet spot is IMO a single topping.

I'm new and experimenting... But my question is how much yield per medium size plant??? Not sq ft... Per plant. It reads like you're getting about 2 ounces per plant. I've gotten 8 oz off a big bud plant. From what I've read though that's a poor showing on my part... But whatever, I'm trying. I'm hoping for more this harvest. The trimming has been a bitch though

Topped once or twice; 4-6 nice size colas/sqft works great. With the right strain that's about 2oz/sqft. Too many small colas reduce yield in my garden.

 

[Mcsketcher]

I say you have 3 options - (1) Natural growth, (2) 1 cola/bud only or (3) as many buds as possibly, make plant grow horizontally until 2 weeks into flower, 1 week vertically, 1 week horizontally and the let it finish of with horizontal growth.

I use option 1 because it seems the most responsible.

Responsible???? I'm not even sure what that means. I just want LOTS of fat nugs... Call me greedy... And only a few plants were harmed in the making of this episode. It was ethically executed though... Kosher if you will...

 

[Mcsketcher]

Oh... And I fed her milk today everybody.... I'm new, whaddya want? I'll let you know if I think it does anything...

 

[Ponky]

I'm new and experimenting... But my question is how much yield per medium size plant??? Not sq ft... Per plant. It reads like you're getting about 2 ounces per plant. I've gotten 8 oz off a big bud plant. From what I've read though that's a poor showing on my part... But whatever, I'm trying. I'm hoping for more this harvest. The trimming has been a bitch though

One plant should be doing 8 to 16 ounces. Usually.

 

[TryingToGrow]

Responsible???? I'm not even sure what that means. I just want LOTS of fat nugs... Call me greedy... And only a few plants were harmed in the making of this episode. It was ethically executed though... Kosher if you will...

Yea seems like a few of my words got switched around in that post. Reasonable, is what it should say. That’s just for me, I’m trying to fit a lot of plants in a small space on 12/12 and I think they will fill that in best left alone, since limited veg time. I think they look really nice that way too. You ever just wanna crawl in your tent and spend the night in there?

 

[Mcsketcher]

One plant should be doing 8 to 16 ounces. Usually.

I'm all for the more bud, less trim concept... When I can start another plant, I've got some Bay 11 strain seeds I'm going to try. The yield is supposed to be stupid so... I'm trying to hone my techniques before I get there. I got 2 godfather og's and a rainbow haze going as well. I'm sending 1 of the godfathers to flower sunday. I'm only giving her 2 colas and she'll be 21 days old at that point.... Just to see what happens. I'm going to veg the other godfather a little longer. The haze as well... #of colas... Undecided

 

[growsince79]

One plant should be doing 8 to 16 ounces. Usually.

Big plants indoors almost always make smaller yields. It's just such a waste of time and space.

 

[Mcsketcher]

Big plants indoors almost always make smaller yields. It's just such a waste of time and space.

Big yields are being claimed indoors from such plants... The amount of time isn't a lot and how is it wasting space if you achieve those yields? I get that's not your way but there are pictures out there on the net that contradict your points

 

[growsince79]

Big yields are being claimed indoors from such plants... The amount of time isn't a lot and how is it wasting space if you achieve those yields? I get that's not your way but there are pictures out there on the net that contradict your points

I can grow 4 x 4oz plants way faster than 1 x 16oz plant in the same space. Also a lot less trimming.