Start of 2nd Grow. This time in Soil

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I haven't read through everything yet but wanted to tell you what I do to help fine tune rh with 2 grow areas. It's super simple but I notice if I place the intake vents ductwork on the dehumidifier side of the tent they'll suck in more of that warm dry air vs if I keep them on the ac side. I've got a few feet on duct hanging down the intake holes so I can just kinda swing them over the top. Also the dehu is a far away from the other grow area as possible. So i can leave that on high sucking most of that warm air into the flowering tent before it makes its way over to the closet i had the vegging plants in. The day of watering I'll swing the vents over to the dehu side vs the ac side and it'll help to drop rh more than if I kept them the other way.
Hmm I think I am pickin up what you throwin down but I don't have much room. My grow tents are in the same room my office desk etc so not too much to work with. Once I port my 3rd hole into attic door I made, I will have both tents exhausted into attic as well as AC exhaust when it is on. I think in the end everything will work out but surely not ideal but if you must be in same room like I am, this would be one consequence/future hurdle
 
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hmm quite interesting but the surface temp sure moves up and down so if it shouldn't then for sure it is bunk.

What about this? Is it possible that the heat mat, being plugged into a 3 pronged heavy duty maybe 20 ft extension cord causes it to overheat? Do I need to plug heat mat directly into wall?

I got timer delivered yesterday for 2nd tent. The timer is built into a 8 slot power supply, 4 are on the timer and 4 are always on. I plugged mat into that and now this morning surface temp was 106, so 20 degree drop.

Either way I know I am not being patient but I don't like the feeling I have. I think I cooked my Purple Dragon Balls seeds to death 😞 When I put the beans in water for 12hr, 1 of them sank immediately and the others were fairly quick(within hours) to drop as well. I'm not sure, but I think that is a good sign that the seeds are fairly fresh and not old and dry. I would imagine an overly dry seed would have trouble sinking quickly. I say this just because I was thinking they would sprout real fast. But it has been like 18hrs and I peaked at the seeds and nothing. I just feel like the seeds looked so raring to go that had I not overheated them they would have already at least cracked. I have replacement mat coming today and will return this one. Worst comes to worst I return that and get one like you showed with probe and controls. I sure do think it is worth the cost. Just the piece of mind not to be sweatin it is well worth it and I need it for clones long-term as it gets surprisingly cold here in AZ in December with avgs for the month 45-66ish . I have 4 more PDB seeds as fail-safe but damnit I am going to be angry if I just dropped the ball, or I mean beans like this 😣 after having postponed perpetual grow just to wait on them
Sup man, I think the heating mat turns on, gets to a pre set temp, then shuts off, so it would increase in temp, then lower, etc. The controller lets you control this process, but if the thermometer in the dome doesn't read over 84 I think it's ok.

As for popping seeds, I never do the soak method, paper towel method, etc. I literally just saturate jiffy pellet and plant seed flat side down. 100% germ rate so far. I think adding extra steps to the germination process is just more work and another thing to potentially mess up lol.
 
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I haven't read through everything yet but wanted to tell you what I do to help fine tune rh with 2 grow areas. It's super simple but I notice if I place the intake vents ductwork on the dehumidifier side of the tent they'll suck in more of that warm dry air vs if I keep them on the ac side. I've got a few feet on duct hanging down the intake holes so I can just kinda swing them over the top. Also the dehu is a far away from the other grow area as possible. So i can leave that on high sucking most of that warm air into the flowering tent before it makes its way over to the closet i had the vegging plants in. The day of watering I'll swing the vents over to the dehu side vs the ac side and it'll help to drop rh more than if I kept them the other way.
Hmm interesting, I have trouble maintaining low RH in my tents, so maybe rearranging where my intake is will help. Actually, I'm kinda over tents for growing. I'm gonna convert my room for growing only, and just hang my lights from the ceiling and rock the dehu and window ac. It's this equalizing temperatures inside a tent vs just managing temps in one room that makes me think tents are an inferior way to grow. Of course they are the most convenient, but when you wanna run multiple tents, I think a dedicated room starts to become more efficient.
 
Zombierider

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hmm quite interesting but the surface temp sure moves up and down so if it shouldn't then for sure it is bunk.

What about this? Is it possible that the heat mat, being plugged into a 3 pronged heavy duty maybe 20 ft extension cord causes it to overheat? Do I need to plug heat mat directly into wall?

I got timer delivered yesterday for 2nd tent. The timer is built into a 8 slot power supply, 4 are on the timer and 4 are always on. I plugged mat into that and now this morning surface temp was 106, so 20 degree drop.

Either way I know I am not being patient but I don't like the feeling I have. I think I cooked my Purple Dragon Balls seeds to death 😞 When I put the beans in water for 12hr, 1 of them sank immediately and the others were fairly quick(within hours) to drop as well. I'm not sure, but I think that is a good sign that the seeds are fairly fresh and not old and dry. I would imagine an overly dry seed would have trouble sinking quickly. I say this just because I was thinking they would sprout real fast. But it has been like 18hrs and I peaked at the seeds and nothing. I just feel like the seeds looked so raring to go that had I not overheated them they would have already at least cracked. I have replacement mat coming today and will return this one. Worst comes to worst I return that and get one like you showed with probe and controls. I sure do think it is worth the cost. Just the piece of mind not to be sweatin it is well worth it and I need it for clones long-term as it gets surprisingly cold here in AZ in December with avgs for the month 45-66ish . I have 4 more PDB seeds as fail-safe but damnit I am going to be angry if I just dropped the ball, or I mean beans like this 😣 after having postponed perpetual grow just to wait on them
Oh, and I don't think being plugged into a transformer or puck would make it overheat vs plugging into the wall. I plugged my mat into an extension cord and it didn't have any issues. It was on a controller but I think the voltage would cause issues regardless if a controller was used if it wasn't compatible.
 
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Hmm interesting, I have trouble maintaining low RH in my tents, so maybe rearranging where my intake is will help. Actually, I'm kinda over tents for growing. I'm gonna convert my room for growing only, and just hang my lights from the ceiling and rock the dehu and window ac. It's this equalizing temperatures inside a tent vs just managing temps in one room that makes me think tents are an inferior way to grow. Of course they are the most convenient, but when you wanna run multiple tents, I think a dedicated room starts to become more efficient.
I think it would be a lot better. My problem with the dehu and ac is that they're not in the tent. The thermostat on the ac controls the room temp not the tent temp. Same with dehu. When the lights go on and off temps change a lot. I just got a timer for the ac but I was out there twice a day turning things on and off. You get some fans circulating the air well in that room and the units would take care of the environment without you having to mess with anything. I have to stick to a tent bc I use windows ac units and they let in a decent amount of light. Unless it was winter. I'm putting together a larger tent with some free 3/4 inch pvc I scored. With a bigger tent I could move the dehu and ac inside. Having a whole room if you can control light would be the way to go though.
 
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I think it would be a lot better. My problem with the dehu and ac is that they're not in the tent. The thermostat on the ac controls the room temp not the tent temp. Same with dehu. When the lights go on and off temps change a lot. I just got a timer for the ac but I was out there twice a day turning things on and off. You get some fans circulating the air well in that room and the units would take care of the environment without you having to mess with anything. I have to stick to a tent bc I use windows ac units and they let in a decent amount of light. Unless it was winter. I'm putting together a larger tent with some free 3/4 inch pvc I scored. With a bigger tent I could move the dehu and ac inside. Having a whole room if you can control light would be the way to go though.
Interesting thought about the window ac unit letting in light, didn't think of that! I guess a workaround would be to make some sort of light deflector with cardboard over your ac vent. Gonna get to designing something lol
 
PerfecTrader

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I'm not sure there is much more I could do with the tents I have in the room to make things better. Hard to explain but a window unit AC is 100% out of the question due to the window itself and also that in AC you don't want to play the open window game in summer. I have a monster 14k btu ac/dehu and with that and 2x 4x4 tents, desk, chair, pcs, printer, etc, there is like not much more room. The tents can be 3ish feet apart easily maybe 4 if wanted and I have the portable AC in the middle. Both tents and AC all exhaust into the attic. I'm sure it will all work I just don't think it is ideal. When I want to slam the temps and RH down with everything I've got for the end of my flower tent, my veg tent will likely get cooler than it prefers and vice versa. Bottom line is the tents are just gonna have to learn to get along or else 🤙

Have this one. Got used for $125 off FB marketplace https://www.amazon.com/Honeywell-00...5J1TRBG/ref=pd_lpo_1?pd_rd_i=B095J1TRBG&psc=1
 
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Peaches are canned, froze and peach butter made. Now to decarb 7g of sugar leaf and 8g of flower for a quart of canna honey 🥰
Still around and peeking in, working on two bushel of apples next. 😍
Catch up soon!
 
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Peaches are canned, froze and peach butter made. Now to decarb 7g of sugar leaf and 8g of flower for a quart of canna honey 🥰
Still around and peeking in, working on two bushel of apples next. 😍
Catch up soon!
You had me @ CannaHoney 🥰 Donadagohvi 🙏
 
PerfecTrader

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ok why do you use 2 trellis nets?
The 1st is a screen. I used it to keep them from growing vertically and to veg them horizontally until was ready to flip to flower.
The 2nd is a stretchy trellis net that just acts as support. It would prevent branches from snapping if I should be so lucky to get a few large buds. I have seen quite a few grows from people who had to tie up buds late in flower and it became a hassle enough they swore to always just err on side of caution and toss it up sooner than later in anticipation.
 
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The 1st is a screen. I used it to keep them from growing vertically and to veg them horizontally until was ready to flip to flower.
The 2nd is a stretchy trellis net that just acts as support. It would prevent branches from snapping if I should be so lucky to get a few large buds. I have seen quite a few grows from people who had to tie up buds late in flower and it became a hassle enough they swore to always just err on side of caution and toss it up sooner than later in anticipation.
i see. i hope you get some big buds.
 
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i see. i hope you get some big buds.

Your grow is out of control. Lookin so healthy and stackin frost fast. Phatty colas should be much easier to trim as well. Easier to get long dry. Damnn those are straight impressive

Whats your avg temp/rh during the day?
 
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Your grow is out of control. Lookin so healthy and stackin frost fast. Phatty colas should be much easier to trim as well. Easier to get long dry. Damnn those are straight impressive
thanks man. some leaves on the right side only of one plant some leaves are turning yellow, so i top dressed with some 2.8.4. gaia green and gypsum and epsom salt. but it hasn't changed yet so hoping that top dressing will work out ok. i am out growing my light on some stalks 😞 man what a stretch after flip.
 

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