Something is missing, I think, and idk what?

[Weeblek]

Cool. Good to know and much cheaper. My boy will be happy about that. Till it's all gone I will mix it so ut won't be wasted anyway. You are a good advisor. Sure hope you know what you're talking about! Hahaha! That was a joke.- WeebleK

 

[BigBlonde]

I will take mad shots today and post later. -WeebleK

That'll be helpful. The experts here always like to see pictures.

 

[Weeblek]

I hope I didn't miss anything. Trying hard to keep up. Now we're on a new page. Also, my screen repair for my Pixel 6 Pro will be here today and provided I am able to fix it I can throw this Motorola in a drawer until it's needed again and the 6 Pro takes phenomenal photos. Much better than the ones previously shared.

 

[BigBlonde]

Cool. Good to know and much cheaper. My boy will be happy about that. Till it's all gone I will mix it so ut won't be wasted anyway. You are a good advisor. Sure hope you know what you're talking about! Hahaha! That was a joke.- WeebleK

I try. I started growing in a tent last year. Before that, I always grew outside. I think I have a good understanding, but I know that I still have much to learn. My focus now is learning more about soil and nutrients. My growing method is mostly organic nutrients in soil.

 

[Weeblek]

I am not onto organics yet, but did tell my person that next time I want to get into using more stuff like the coconut and such that I read about others using. Something besides straight up soil. There sure seems to be a lot of sticks and things in soil. Even when you buy better stuff. I been trying my best to get it all out if there. Probably isn't that important, but like I say, I'm a nut and that stuff bothers me. - WeebleK

 

[BigBlonde]

I hope I didn't miss anything. Trying hard to keep up. Now we're on a new page. Also, my screen repair for my Pixel 6 Pro will be here today and provided I am able to fix it I can throw this Motorola in a drawer until it's needed again and the 6 Pro takes phenomenal photos. Much better than the ones previously shared.

Good luck with that. I thought about replacing a screen once on my son's phone. He dropped it and broke the screen the very same day we bought it. (I was so mad!) Fortunately, the local store fixed it for free.

I've been using Samsung phones, but I have heard good things about the Pixel phones.

 

[Weeblek]

Had this one less than a month when I dropped it once inside and it landed perfectly on the corner of a piece of bamboo flooring. Barely cracked and was still usable. Next day was Twice back to back on a brick of my parking pad. That did it. To have it fixed would cost more than I paid and this new company provides the glass only with all the tools needed and video instructions. I figure wth. Ima try. My son says I'll mess it up worse and I respond that it cannot get worse as it is unusable now

 

[BigBlonde]

I am not onto organics yet, but did tell my person that next time I want to get into using more stuff like the coconut and such that I read about others using. Something besides straight up soil. There sure seems to be a lot of sticks and things in soil. Even when you buy better stuff. I been trying my best to get it all out if there. Probably isn't that important, but like I say, I'm a nut and that stuff bothers me. - WeebleK

I recommend focusing on successful complete-to-finish crops in soil before moving on to other methods. The sticks in soil serve a purpose. They slowly decompose and in doing so support microscopic organisms that benefit the plants. Because of this, I put a few cuts from my fruit trees in the bottom of my pots. (See Hügelkultur.) Coconut coir drains quickly, so nutrients must be managed carefully. Like I said, soil is forgiving.

 

[Weeblek]

I do have these in there. Well, it is 1 Meter for both. - WeebleK

I was also researching how to make a Co2 Generator.

There's the temp/rh meter I have, and my current set-up.

 

[Weeblek]

Ok Sensei's, here are some shots from today. I made collages so there wouldn't be as many. If you enlarge, you'll see that the bottom leaves on all still showing the effects of the light burn but the newer leaves look real good, don't y'all think? I think they should be taller though, what say y'all? Patiently awaiting your responses while I try to fix me other phone. Thank you All!!! -WeebleK

 

[Weeblek]

I was also researching how to make a Co2 Generator.

There's the temp/rh meter I have, and my current set-up.

Btw, those numbers were both much higher when I first opened it up and will likely be again in an hour or so.

 

[BigBlonde]

Your setup looks great!

I was also researching how to make a Co2 Generator.

I thought about it till I added a CO2 monitor to my lung room. I was surprised to see how much the CO2 level changes. While doing yoga or working in the room, I have set off the high CO2 warning a few times, which is 1,500 PPM. It's currently at 615 PPM because I was just in there trimming, defoliating and feeding my cat who loves to eat the leaves.

One thing I learned is that these plants expel CO2 at certain times during their daily cycle.

There's the temp/rh meter I have, and my current set-up.

It looks good. The humidity and temperature could be a bit higher. The humidity will increase after watering or when the temperature drops.

Btw, those numbers were both much higher when I first opened it up and will likely be again in an hour or so.

Yes. That's how remote monitoring helps, I suppose.

 

[Weeblek]

I have lost several plants outdoors due my GSD's liking of the plants. If I leave the flaps open on the tent I have to barricade it so he can't get in there. Because I'm sooo sure he would if he had half a chance. Lol!

I think they are almost thirsty again. One of them is on my the end of the wet meter, when stuck in 4 different areas and depths. The other 5 are still mid ways. I have been sort of rotating them each day, I guess because I think they should all have the amount of everything. Like the same direction of the fans and the same intensity of the light, etc. Part of my crazy, I guess. Byt there's 6 plants in 2 rows and each day they get moved over 1 place. Idk? Just how I am, I supoose. - Karen

 

[BigBlonde]

Ok Sensei's, here are some shots from today. I made collages so there wouldn't be as many. If you enlarge, you'll see that the bottom leaves on all still showing the effects of the light burn but the newer leaves look real good, don't y'all think? I think they should be taller though, what say y'all? Patiently awaiting your responses while I try to fix me other phone. Thank you All!!! -WeebleK

Is that light bleaching? Without looking back to earlier posts, I would guess that's due to a mobile nutrient deficiency. Some nutrients move within the plant and others don't. When lower leaves yellow, it can be because the plant is moving mobile nutrients to the new growth. Have you started feeding them yet?

Also... Planting small, young plants in a large pot can cause slow growth because the plant emphasizes root development when it's young. It also can be hard to water a small plant in a large pot. For those reasons, many folks recommend increasing the pot size in several steps. I usually use three pots.

Low temperatures (below about 75 to 78F) can also cause slow growth.

 

[Weeblek]

Ok. Ima try and bring you up to speed... Before, when I started the post, the guys felt that light burn was the issue so I raised it a couple of days and lowered the intensity to 25%. They also recommended doing the Slurry Test which turned out to be ok. And that I water to runoff which I did a couple of days after. I haven't watered since. Never clipped those yellowed and curling leaves off. I did lower the light back down to an arms length from their tops after the watering, and they have remained there and at 25% 18 on and 6 off. They all pretty much recommended no Nutrients until the plants were ok again. I think they said 2-3wks, but can't recall exactly.

I figured those bottom leaves were the remnants of the light burn. And the new leaves looking all healthy were signs of recovery? Also, I did start them in small 5" pots. One day when I started worrying about the crap soil they were in being all hard and in like little balls, I let one fall into my hand and the roots were coming to the bottom and sides of the its pot. That's why I repotted. Because the roots were showing and they were in suck dirt. When I did the repotting, all 6 had roots trying to get free. They got new soil when repotted as well as the Perlite mixed in. I honestly believe they all would have died if left any longer in the dirt they were in and I will never ever use Dollar Tree Soil again. -WeebleK

 

[BigBlonde]

I think they are almost thirsty again. One of them is on my the end of the wet meter, when stuck in 4 different areas and depths. The other 5 are still mid ways. I have been sort of rotating them each day, I guess because I think they should all have the amount of everything. Like the same direction of the fans and the same intensity of the light, etc. Part of my crazy, I guess. Byt there's 6 plants in 2 rows and each day they get moved over 1 place. Idk? Just how I am, I supoose.

Too frequent watering can cause nutrient lockout. I made that mistake during my first grow and have pictures to prove it. That showed up as yellowing of new growth.

I think people often think of larger plants with plenty of roots when they talk about watering practices. Smaller plants don't have as many roots, so I wonder if watering needs to be different. There's something known as the perched water table. The idea is that soil is wetter deeper down than it is near the surface. So, I push in the soil moisture probe slowly to check at different depths. If it's still in the green (moist) within a few inches, watering probably isn't needed. That is, if the roots go deep down. If not, a small amount of water near the roots might be helpful.

It looks to me like you're doing an excellent job. I rotate my plants while they're still small enough to move. At some point, we just must relax and let them grow. Patience isn't always my strong suit, so the three to four months of flowering can seem like forever to me.

 

[Weeblek]

I totally hear you about the watering and the roots being toward the top or bottom. What I don't know is how to know how deep their roots are at this point. I think my soil looks pretty good and still looks like there's some moisture left. I don't mean that I want to water today or tomorrow, but maybe whenever my new meter comes which will likely be Monday or Tuesday next week. That way I can do another Slurry Test, because that was kinda fun, lol, and to see if they are ready to start receiving Nutrients again. That is one of my big worries right now, because the container says to feed even when they are seedlings, at a 50% recommend amount. I don't know how to know when to start feeding. I imagine there's some test I'll have to do, probably with a meter I don't have. Lol! But yeah, that's a worry inside of my head right now.

Here are my readings in there after just an hour of the tent being sealed back up. Quite an increase of humidity and the heater is still running so that temp should be well up by the time 430 comes and the dark comes. -WeebleK

 

[BigBlonde]

Ok. Ima try and bring you up to speed... Before, when I started the post, the guys felt that light burn was the issue so I raised it a couple of days and lowered the intensity to 25%. They also recommended doing the Slurry Test which turned out to be ok. And that I water to runoff which I did a couple of days after. I haven't watered since. Never clipped those yellowed and curling leaves off. I did lower the light back down to an arms length from their tops after the watering, and they have remained there and at 25% 18 on and 6 off. They all pretty much recommended no Nutrients until the plants were ok again. I think they said 2-3wks, but can't recall exactly.

I figured those bottom leaves were the remnants of the light burn. And the new leaves looking all healthy were signs of recovery? Also, I did start them in small 5" pots. One day when I started worrying about the crap soil they were in being all hard and in like little balls, I let one fall into my hand and the roots were coming to the bottom and sides of the its pot. That's why I repotted. Because the roots were showing and they were in suck dirt. When I did the repotting, all 6 had roots trying to get free. They got new soil when repotted as well as the Perlite mixed in. I honestly believe they all would have died if left any longer in the dirt they were in and I will never ever use Dollar Tree Soil again. -WeebleK

Okay. I'm recalling some of that earlier discussion. You're on the right track, I'm sure. I had trouble with lousy starting soil this time. It didn't want to absorb moisture. So, I repotted them and took off some of the bad soil when I did it. They took a while to get their roots into the better soil, but when they did, they grew well and are looking normal now. They sure grew slowly at first, though. I'm surprised they didn't die.

Light at 25% and about 20 inches from the plants should be fine. The soil pH test is worth doing, but may not be needed again. I don't pH test my soil. Soil can buffer the pH.

Yes, most say no nutrients for seedlings for the first few weeks. That's when growth is normal. It's recommended because the plant has some resources from seed. My guess is that the poor soil you had at the beginning may have changed things a bit. I fed the ones I had in poor soil low doses of a kelp nutrient I like (Bloom City Clean Kelp) because I felt that they needed special nurturing.

 

[BigBlonde]

I totally hear you about the watering and the roots being toward the top or bottom. What I don't know is how to know how deep their roots are at this point. I think my soil looks pretty good and still looks like there's some moisture left. I don't mean that I want to water today or tomorrow, but maybe whenever my new meter comes which will likely be Monday or Tuesday next week. That way I can do another Slurry Test, because that was kinda fun, lol, and to see if they are ready to start receiving Nutrients again. That is one of my big worries right now, because the container says to feed even when they are seedlings, at a 50% recommend amount. I don't know how to know when to start feeding. I imagine there's some test I'll have to do, probably with a meter I don't have. Lol! But yeah, that's a worry inside of my head right now.

Here are my readings in there after just an hour of the tent being sealed back up. Quite an increase of humidity and the heater is still running so that temp should be well up by the time 430 comes and the dark comes. -WeebleK

Roots seek water. 50% nutrient mix is good for young plants. I think you can start feeding at that low dose. Lacking a moisture meter, pushing a stick into the soil to see if the soil clings to it can provide a clue. I use skewer sticks. This idea is like using a toothpick to see if the cake is done. If it comes out dry, then the soil isn't moist.

The temperature looks good. The humidity is too high. That resolves to a VPD of about 0.50, which is too low. RH of 65% would be about right. Where's the humidity coming from? Is the humidifier running?

 

[Weeblek]

Yes, from the Humidifier, I suppose. I thought it needed to be between, well now that I look at my notes, 40-80% . Smh. I turned the thing off. Temp is at 77° rn.
I too use Skewers! Only the giant ones used for roasting marshmallows.

I guess I just figure that I bought all this crap and by golly ima use every bit of it. I still haven't used the EDS/WHATEVER Meter and don't even really know what they are for. I also just ordered a new pH meter because I broke the old one. This one is way nicer and is way different as well. I actually am looking forward to using it, so don't dampen my joy. Lol! I don't have a whole lot to look forward to in this life and that new pH meter is one of the things I have. My crazy again. - WeebleK