Congrats Colorado, the new Amsterdam

[funkysmoker]

man i kinda feel bad for yall.... I am happy with the laws in MI ... just could do with less snitches. good luck yall

 

[motiv303]

The personal use portion of this law goes into effect when the Governor signs it, he has 30 days, Then all adult Colorado Residents can posess 1 oz, and grow 6 plants. The rest of this bill doesn't go into effect until Jan. 1, 2014....... which gives the State Legislature plenty of time to develop rules and regs for manufacturing and sales. You know they will charge a pretty penny, and want to do an anal probe on you before they issue anyone a manufaturing license. I'd guess the first draft will be available for review next spring after the State Legislature is in session. So, until then, no one knows, what the programs will look like. And, I seriously doubt there will be Coffee Shops or Cafes', you can't even smoke a tobacco cig within 15 ft of a doorway to a restaurant in this state, no way will there be indoor pot smoking.
My 2 cents.....

Great post Bud! Lots to come at this point. Nobody knows exactly how this will turn out. Always enjoy your info man, be well! Cheers! Motiv

 

[fractal]

Is Colorado going to be selling state run stores, like WA or are they going to be privately owned shops? What about the product, is it going to be state licensed grows or can anybody grow a commercial crop and pay taxes so they can sell it to the shops?

 

[fractal]

50 an ounce by march! Thats the word on the street:)

Not going to happen. . .The true value of AAA+ primo is way more, and growers would be shipping their stuff back east before they would ever consider selling indoor primo for less than $150 an ounce.

 

[sanvanalona]

Not going to happen. . .The true value of AAA+ primo is way more, and growers would be shipping their stuff back east before they would ever consider selling indoor primo for less than $150 an ounce.

Really? I have heard from many reputable sources out there, including rare dankness, that prices have dropped to 1600 for indoor right now. Where I live the price is getting closer to 50 every day. Like I said earlier there will still be a market for kills, but anyone and everyone can grow now so that will simply effect the supply and demand of the basic marijuana economic model. Its inevitable.

 

[true grit]

Ya not gonna happen man. p's still go for $3k+ if you have flame out here. MMC's can't keep up, and neither will other shops when the volume of demand increases. Folks thought prices would fall out the bottom with medical...ya it dropped but not a whole lot for top shelf- always gonna be a market. especially with the tourism where they are used to paying higher prices. ya theres cheap crap out here, but its just that. Same with growing- everyone went medical, a lot tried growing and a lot realized they couldn't produce the quality/quantity that good growers do (and what they thought they could) and went right back to paying for it. I remember some caregivers losing many of their patients after 1284 and rock bottom prices..well it didn't take very long to get those folks back at old prices.

If they offer a model that allows taxation of growers at legal ops vs. retail then we could see some boutique stores actually having a chance at taxing people for it and that goes all the way down the line. Will be interesting. I think the real idea is prime market for cannabis related products and services that will be outside the standard pot shop/grow mentality.

 

[summitoker]

DEA says your vote is crap:
http://www.tokeofthetown.com

 

[chickenman]

.....I may get my outfitting licenses again n run some "country rebel" style magazine adds offer smoker friendly guided fishing adventures ya know.....

Most all the guides I know are friendly, if not fiends.
On a guided trip last year on the Frying pan, I did shrooms, I TOLD the guide at about 1/2 day Iam firing up want a toke? he declined, I puffed away.
On the river I fish a lot all the younger guides are total heads and the rest say fire it up its YOUR trip..
The other day I met some fisherman from back east who complained they had no weed. Got them ripped on hash dube sent em downriver with a nice sack that should keep them baked for the duraton of their trip, they offered to pay,no way, on me have a blast, they could not believe it, got an email they said I made there trip... Fun to turn folks on unexpected and get em totaly ripped......Send em on their way, sayin WTF just happened??????

 

[Jarofunk]

I'm not so sure about demand going up. Maybe for the tourism. But I don't think a whole lot of folks are gonna start burning because it's legal now.

And what the fuck? We can only have an oz legally? That's not freedom.

 

[kolah]

i like running a chain saw high . just felt like saying that.do what u like

I enjoy playing guitar high. It really opens up the creativity slot.

 

[Dopegeist]

And what the fuck? We can only have an oz legally? That's not freedom.

Grow your own. You can have Xpounds that you grew off your multiyear veg greenhouse.

C'mon...I mean, c'mon...

Still can't decide whether I want to force flower to split the summer, or try and run a multi-annum veg????
If you start your force flower around june/july that would be enough time to veg the others almost a full season?

 

[Bud Spleefman]

800 a lb? I'd fucking quit long before that and kill every genetic I had on the way out the door. You better hope it don't go that low, because the weed will suck, like a grocery store tomato tastes like cardboard!

 

[Dorje]

Bud, if you had a big greenhouse, 800/lb might not be too bad.

With my organic system recycling the soil, I spend about $20/lb on ferts... electricity is BY FAR my largest cost along with trimming of course.

I figure in a greenhouse you could produce lbs for $200-300, and anyone who knows, knows greenhouse bud can come out higher quality than indoor.

It is true that growing weed under artificial lighting is coming to a close.... maybe not anytime soon but it is... and it should be because growing plants under artificial lighting is absolutely ridiculous. Sure, you might need light to supplement a greenhouse during certain times of the year, but warehouse/basement grows are going to be a thing of the past.

 

[chickenman]

No outdoors grows all grows including personal must be indoors and locked...
Thats what I heard anybody know whats up with that????

 

[mr duder]

Ok so first thing. This is great for individuals. But to think that the Federal Government will allow retail sails and large scale grows is simply crazy. They can shut that part of the law down in court. Plus who wants to jump on the sword first? I'm not trying to stir the pot but I highly doubt that retail stores will happen anytime soon. As for the price I really don't see sub 1000 dollar pounds. Just because you can produce it for X doesn't mean it will sell for X. I have a feeling that the tax will be steep. That another issue the Feds will have. Low prices will lead to people taking it outta state. That is going to lose to the Commerce clause. Please lmk your thoughts.

 

[sanvanalona]

I look at it like this. How much was a pound of AAA in 2008 in Colorado? What is the price today due to mmj and the multiple number of people growing? Its simply economics, we can try to fool ourselves and think no one can recreate our product on a mass scale, but I am sure people can and will, when exactly I do not know. There will always be a great market for the best, but I am sure the prices will not be anywhere close to where they are today. The price today reflects the risk factor, take out the risk and the equation changes drastically. Time will be the great judge though.

 

[fractal]

Really? I have heard from many reputable sources out there, including rare dankness, that prices have dropped to 1600 for indoor right now. Where I live the price is getting closer to 50 every day. Like I said earlier there will still be a market for kills, but anyone and everyone can grow now so that will simply effect the supply and demand of the basic marijuana economic model. Its inevitable.

How can indoor bud in Colorado be selling for what outdoor bud goes for in cali? It must not be good stuff I would believe that for midgrade. There's no way people are parting with their full-term, flushed beautiful headstash OG nugs for less than 24 I wouldn't believe it until someone showed me a pound and said it was 16.

 

[fractal]

I enjoy playing guitar high. It really opens up the creativity slot.

yeah man that's the worst thing about not smoking in so long, music doesn't do it for me like it used to. I can hardly get interested in listening to music or playing my bass and guitar. Fucking sad, I used to love playing music but I had all the weed I could smoke on hand 24/7.

 

[sanvanalona]

How can indoor bud in Colorado be selling for what outdoor bud goes for in cali? It must not be good stuff I would believe that for midgrade. There's no way people are parting with their full-term, flushed beautiful headstash OG nugs for less than 24 I wouldn't believe it until someone showed me a pound and said it was 16.

I don't know personally, I am not there. Check out rare dankness thread I think he says himself something about the 16. Are you guys getting more? How much are you getting in CO? Can't imagine the absolutely best is not getting more, but how much? Top notch indoor OG goes for 2k at the stores in the bay, that much I know for sure! I would never let mine go for so little, but got a friend that runs a club and I got to watch them buy one day....holy shit! People will let fire go for cheap if they have to.

 

[mr duder]

I don't disagree with the supply and demand concept and the risk factor being gone. But if you get caught growing 1000 plants in whatever capacity you can think legal or medical or whatever the DEA can give you ten years. I don't see that threat going away anytime soon. If you could grow acres of weed you could obviously do it for cheaper. The other factor is why would you drop the price when people are going to buy it for 100 plus an ounce and drive, fly or ship it to New York and make a fortune? Again I'm not trying to be an antagonist I'm being honest. If every state was legal then agreed it would drop the prices but we are far from that day being here. We all know the 70 and 80 going east bound are about to get real busy. I'm not advocating that I'm simply saying.